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07-23-2011 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by manupod
this is legal, only actual acts with children is not. young looking adults/drawings, etc = protected by 1stA

thanks constitutional law!
This is wrong. According to the law, it is illegal to portray sex with a child. There was a guy that keep making porn with 18 yos pretending to be 12 yos, and he is currently in prison.

Here is the link that I found after reading BBV4L(lol):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

So it is illegal to have sex with women of legal consent if they are pretending to be children.
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07-23-2011 , 12:32 PM
And yet not legal to have sex with a 16 year old who pretends to be older. What a gyp!
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07-23-2011 , 01:06 PM
i see hardcore just got released a couple of days ago
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07-23-2011 , 01:18 PM
Looks like his incarceration was for stuff like fisting and urination, not the girl pretending to be underage.
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07-23-2011 , 02:35 PM
great first post
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07-23-2011 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nullspace
Does anyone know if cartoon child porn is illegal? Just curious of course. I would never watch that sh*t.
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07-23-2011 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by smooth101
So it is illegal to have sex with women of legal consent if they are pretending to be children.
Would this apply to that guy who was dating a chick with 5 different personalities? One of them was a 5 year old iirc.
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07-23-2011 , 03:02 PM
Question for RayPowers: Let's just take the most extreme example. Let's say you browse to a site that has an image of a girl who's 17.9. You click the thumbnail, look at the pic, and go on about your way (or your browser just downloads the thumbnail - does the law distinguish?). For some reason the FBI raids your computer. Technically could you go to jail and have to register as a sex predator over that? Does the girl have to look obviously underage?

I'm not talking about what would usually actually happen 99.999% of the time in this case, just what technically could happen. This one area just scares me because there's soooooo much discretion in the hands of the cops, prosecutors and judges. I feel like they could probably put half the country in jail tomorrow if they scanned everyone's computers for every image and applied the full letter of the law.

That 51-year-old actor who just married a 16-year-old - if he took a naked pic of her could he go to jail?

My favorite of these is teens getting busted for child pornography for sexting themselves. Ugh.
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07-23-2011 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by whoremonger
just shutup and whack off
Welcome. You've come to the right place.
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07-23-2011 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nullspace
Does anyone know if cartoon child porn is illegal? Just curious of course. I would never watch that sh*t.
In sweden it is, a manga translator got convicted for it.
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07-23-2011 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Duerig
Just stick to granny porn!
This advice works for most of lifes problems.
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07-23-2011 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Question for RayPowers: Let's just take the most extreme example. Let's say you browse to a site that has an image of a girl who's 17.9. You click the thumbnail, look at the pic, and go on about your way (or your browser just downloads the thumbnail - does the law distinguish?). For some reason the FBI raids your computer. Technically could you go to jail and have to register as a sex predator over that? Does the girl have to look obviously underage?

I'm not talking about what would usually actually happen 99.999% of the time in this case, just what technically could happen. This one area just scares me because there's soooooo much discretion in the hands of the cops, prosecutors and judges. I feel like they could probably put half the country in jail tomorrow if they scanned everyone's computers for every image and applied the full letter of the law.

That 51-year-old actor who just married a 16-year-old - if he took a naked pic of her could he go to jail?

My favorite of these is teens getting busted for child pornography for sexting themselves. Ugh.
I think the real question to ask here is how do the Feds actually go after people who look at Child Porn? How do they find or bait these people? Answer these questions and you could figure out how to protect yourself.
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07-23-2011 , 06:54 PM
dont watch amatuers
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07-23-2011 , 06:56 PM
What about some girl masturbating with a hair brush in front of a mirror. Probably a no go?
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07-23-2011 , 07:04 PM
What if you are into underage chicks dressing up like milfs? Cool or not cool?
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07-23-2011 , 07:06 PM
If a minor sends you pics of her girl parts and youre a minor, and u keep them til ur an adult, wat happens?
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07-23-2011 , 07:11 PM
If you look at illegal porn while youre in jail, wat happens?
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07-23-2011 , 07:26 PM
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07-23-2011 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
If you look at illegal porn while youre in jail, wat happens?
added time ldo
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07-23-2011 , 08:58 PM
back up your daily downloads on a thumbdrive and bring them over to the local precinct each day. Insist on having them look at every file. Do your part as a contributing member of society here man.
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07-23-2011 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by smooth101
This is wrong. According to the law, it is illegal to portray sex with a child. There was a guy that keep making porn with 18 yos pretending to be 12 yos, and he is currently in prison.

Here is the link that I found after reading BBV4L(lol):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

So it is illegal to have sex with women of legal consent if they are pretending to be children.
lol @ this. From your own link:

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Based on Max Extreme 4, the city of Los Angeles in 1998 charged him with child pornography and distribution of obscenity. The fact that the actress was over the age of 18 was not disputed; they brought charges based solely on the fact that the actress was portraying a character who was underage. Just before the case was brought to trial in 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the statute prohibiting adults from portraying children in films and books was unconstitutional.
Porn of adults depicting children are constitutionally protected, unless they are obscene (and thus unprotected) for some other reason.

IIRC, though, a federal circuit court or two have held that porn is not protected if a real child's face is superimposed onto an adult's body.

Edit: Wow, based on one of the links posted above, it looks like a federal circuit has said the government can criminalize cartoon child porn. Without having read the decision, it seems wrong under Ashcroft.

Last edited by 11111; 07-23-2011 at 09:19 PM.
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07-23-2011 , 09:12 PM
It's very hard to stumble consistently upon underage porn without searching for it on the interwebs (unless you visit chans and sites alike I guess). Fwiw if this is just about staying out of trouble as long as you don't actively search for it or store your computer full of obvious underage pornography nobody will ever bother you because that one time you fapped to a porn that you thought was a 19 year old but appeared to be a 16 year old. Even if they do happen to raid your computer.

If that was the case most internet fappers would be in jail.
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07-23-2011 , 09:24 PM
If we post buzzwords of illegal things such as "childporn" on 2p2 a bunch, will 2p2 become illegal?
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07-23-2011 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
If we post buzzwords of illegal things such as "childporn" on 2p2 a bunch, will 2p2 become illegal?
No, but we would get the occasional crazy that is trying to get into the "hidden forums"
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07-23-2011 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 11111
Edit: Wow, based on one of the links posted above, it looks like a federal circuit has said the government can criminalize cartoon child porn. Without having read the decision, it seems wrong under Ashcroft.
From wikipedia:

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The United States Supreme Court's 2002 ruling in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition ruled that the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 was facially invalid in prohibiting virtual or cartoon child pornography.
So under Ashcroft you're right, but then there's the PROTECT Act of 2003:

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In response to Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, Congress passed the PROTECT Act of 2003 (also dubbed the Amber Alert Law) and it was signed into law on April 30, 2003 by then president George W. Bush.[42] The law enacted 18 U.S.C. § 1466A, which criminalizes material that has "a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting", that "depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is "obscene" or "depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in ... sexual intercourse ... and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value".
If you're fapping to Simpsons cartoons (you weirdo!), restrict yourself to Homer and Marge. Anatomically correct renditions of Lisa, Bart, and Maggie could land you in prison:

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In October 2010, a 33 year old Idaho man, Steven Kutzner, entered into a plea agreement concerning images of child characters from the American animated television show, The Simpsons engaged in sexual acts.[55][56] In January 2011, Kutzner was sentenced to serve 15 months in federal prison.[57]
The PROTECT Act: Keeping America safe for cartoon kids since 2003!
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