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03-17-2009 , 01:56 PM
facebook and myspace are just dating sites with a thin veneer of something else, go for it mate
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03-17-2009 , 02:00 PM
You have two equally good options here, man:

1. Take out your service weapon and have an "accidental discharge" -just a little graze on your leg. Make sure she's working in the ER that day. Bingo, bango, bongo, my man!

2. Go to her granny's (or whereever she lives) and ask her out. Start with coffee.

Your choice to how painful you wanna make it.
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03-17-2009 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by souL gazE
Shoot her a message on FB first and give her the option to add you. Some ppl are protective of their profiles.

This was my immediate thought after reading the op. I read until I found it and haven't read anything below this.

A message w/out adding is the best way to go. If she likes you, she'll respond. If she doesn't, you'll get to see her at least one more time when she comes to the station to file a restraining order against you.
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03-17-2009 , 02:41 PM
When the brother's gf gets out of jail (if she isn't already), you should frame her by throwing a brick through the gma's window. Hot granddaughter will show up in due time to check on her beloved gma.
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03-17-2009 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
facebook and myspace are just dating sites with a thin veneer of something else, go for it mate
this man is a pickup champion
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03-17-2009 , 03:06 PM
im surprised nobody has mentioned it but since you're a cop i think being at a hospital isn't as sketchy as if you were her plumber.

like, i would probably just swing by when i knew she was working and hope for a casual conversation then move in for the kill.
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03-17-2009 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wee-Bey
Go back to her house at a time when you know she'd be there, tell them you're there for a routine post-arrest checkup ( or print a paper and say that you need their signature.. whatever make up something that would seem relevant ).. go in for a coffee chat with the family, mostly her. Then tell the GD you get off work at 6 or something and would like to take her out for dinner or something.
Shut up, no one wants to hear your actual, good advice.
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03-17-2009 , 03:23 PM
I once had my street-parked car get totaled in a hit-and-run. I called the cops to file a report.

A cute redhead in her mid-20s shows up and takes a statement from me. I show her the smashed car, and she starts flirting, jokingly giving me a hard time about it and touching me on the shoulder. I was so mad about the car it wasn't until a few minutes after she left that the realization hit me: I could have bagged a hot female REDHEADED cop. GRRRR!!!!!

In hindsight I think I am more angry about missing the boat on the cop than selling my car for scrap. I mean seriously, a uniform, cuffs... what's not to like here?
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03-17-2009 , 03:37 PM
again, dalerobk is right here.

i think it's really inappropriate for you to be hitting on girls you meet while on duty. it doesnt matter whether you wait until after the prelim or not - you should not be pursuing girls that you meet while on your rounds.

these people expect you to show up and act in a professional manner, not contacting their granddaughter on facebook later. this is incredibly immature imo. my response would not be the same if she was showing a lot of interest in you, but you are clearly going way out of your way to pursue this.
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03-17-2009 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nation
again, dalerobk is right here.

i think it's really inappropriate for you to be hitting on girls you meet while on duty. it doesnt matter whether you wait until after the prelim or not - you should not be pursuing girls that you meet while on your rounds.

these people expect you to show up and act in a professional manner, not contacting their granddaughter on facebook later. this is incredibly immature imo. my response would not be the same if she was showing a lot of interest in you, but you are clearly going way out of your way to pursue this.
Gotta disagree. People meet through work all the time. Just have to not abuse it if you are in a position of authority or confidentiality. OP has demonstrated his awareness of this through posting.
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03-17-2009 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Yeah, I'm probably overthinking this way too much.
Bingo!

I don't think it's necessarily bad to ask someone out you met in an official capacity-- I mean, you can't control where/how you meet someone-- but, uh, sitting around for a week fantasizing about her first, because you haven't been meeting any women, can't be good for you.
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03-17-2009 , 03:59 PM
But he has a perfect excuse in waiting till prelim or some other "official" event. Unless she reads this, of course.
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03-17-2009 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I don't think it's necessarily bad to ask someone out you met in an official capacity-- I mean, you can't control where/how you meet someone
Sure, but it’s not like he was stopping in for a cup of coffee and bumped into some random chick while he happened to be on duty. Chick’s family called the police because they felt it was necessary to have an uninterested and objective authority to remove the nut-job and do so through physical violence if necessary. Do you guys not see the difference?

Furthermore, the case is still pending. If he should be called on to testify, the assumption will be that he is, in fact, an uninterested professional police officer. This will obviously now be up for question because he is now personally involved with a member of the family involved. To dismiss that by saying the chick is “not involved” is ridiculous. She’s the sister of the guy with nut-job. OP, if chick goes out with you, will you notify the judge and lawyers involved before testifying that you are involved with her? Will you notify your supervisor? And if you don’t and nut-job is convicted, could that be grounds for an appeal?

And for those of you who are saying this is no big deal, what if you’re that woman? What if a person who only knows your name and address through their official role as an authority with real power then uses that info to contact you for personal reasons? Does that honestly not seem like an abuse of their position?

Look, I’m a man and have two testicles and all, so I understand OP’s spot here. I’m not even against contacting her, but OP has to make it look coincidental and not purposeful. Furthermore, if he ever had any official role in this case (filing a report or testifying) he should notify everyone involved about his personal involvement with said chick.

Last edited by dalerobk; 03-17-2009 at 04:24 PM.
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03-17-2009 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dalerobk
Sure, but it’s not like he was stopping in for a cup of coffee and bumped into some random chick while he happened to be on duty. Chick’s family called the police because they felt it was necessary to have an uninterested and objective authority to remove the nut-job and do so through physical violence if necessary. Do you guys not see the difference?

Furthermore, the case is still pending. If he should be called on to testify, the assumption will be that he is, in fact, an uninterested professional police officer. This will obviously now be up for question because he is now personally involved with a member of the family involved. To dismiss that by saying the chick is “not involved” is ridiculous. She’s the sister of the guy with nut-job. OP, if chick goes out with you, will you notify the judge and lawyers involved before testifying that you are involved with her? Will you notify your supervisor? And if you don’t and nut-job is convicted, could that be grounds for an appeal?

And for those of you who are saying this is no big deal, what if you’re that woman? What if a person who only knows your name and address through their official role as an authority with real power then uses that info to contact you for personal reasons? Does that honestly not seem like an abuse of their position?

Look, I’m a man and have two testicles and all, so I understand OP’s spot here. I’m not even against contacting her, but OP has to make it look coincidental and not purposeful. Furthermore, if he ever had any official role in this case (filing a report or testifying) he should notify everyone involved about his personal involvement with said chick.
Is it more honest to fake a coincidence? Obviously there are boundaries while he is a potential witness and grandma is the victim. Being a witness is an essential function of his job, and compromising his credibility by dating a relative of the victim in a case is very bad. But he can be friends until such time as he is free to be more. I suggested talking to grandma and saying "is GD single/seeing anyone" b/c this tips GD off to his personal non-work-related interest, and when he later sends FB mesage, she can accept or not to show whether interest is reciprocated. FB is okay as long as they are aware that it can be used to discredit him in court without notice to him, so words such as "throbbing" and "moist" should be avoided.

Ask her out for a donut wins the thread.

SIIHP would have also.

Last edited by ambulance chaser; 03-17-2009 at 04:42 PM. Reason: SIIHP FTW LDO DUCY
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03-17-2009 , 05:03 PM
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Is it more honest to fake a coincidence? Obviously there are boundaries while he is a potential witness and grandma is the victim. Being a witness is an essential function of his job, and compromising his credibility by dating a relative of the victim in a case is very bad. But he can be friends until such time as he is free to be more. I suggested talking to grandma and saying "is GD single/seeing anyone" b/c this tips GD off to his personal non-work-related interest, and when he later sends FB mesage, she can accept or not to show whether interest is reciprocated. FB is okay as long as they are aware that it can be used to discredit him in court without notice to him, so words such as "throbbing" and "moist" should be avoided.

Ask her out for a donut wins the thread.

SIIHP would have also.
No. It's equally unethical. But the key part to "fake" is deception.
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03-17-2009 , 05:06 PM
Just pull her over for crossing the yellow line.
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03-17-2009 , 05:06 PM
Honestly I wouldn't add her on facebook. I don't see the difference between facebook and just asking her out in person while in uniform, in terms of how uncomfortable you're going to make her or whatever. Just because in one situation you're on duty, and the other one you're techincally not (although I thought a lot of police depts have an "always on duty" policy now), doesn't mean the reason for the rule goes away.

Maybe when you see her next time say something like "I'm not gonna be back here taking care of YOUR crazy boyfriend am I?" It asks the question without asking the question. If you have to, say something like "I'm not supposed to ask you out but" or "it's against the rules but", or even "here's my card, if you have any questions, or just want to chat, give me a call."

You're a cop, girls are supposed to be all over you, and you're supposed to be all over how to do this kind of thing aren't you?
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03-17-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nation
again, dalerobk is right here.

i think it's really inappropriate for you to be hitting on girls you meet while on duty. it doesnt matter whether you wait until after the prelim or not - you should not be pursuing girls that you meet while on your rounds.

these people expect you to show up and act in a professional manner, not contacting their granddaughter on facebook later. this is incredibly immature imo. my response would not be the same if she was showing a lot of interest in you, but you are clearly going way out of your way to pursue this.
ur dumb
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03-17-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dalerobk

And for those of you who are saying this is no big deal, what if you’re that woman? What if a person who only knows your name and address through their official role as an authority with real power then uses that info to contact you for personal reasons? Does that honestly not seem like an abuse of their position?

Look, I’m a man and have two testicles and all, so I understand OP’s spot here. I’m not even against contacting her, but OP has to make it look coincidental and not purposeful. Furthermore, if he ever had any official role in this case (filing a report or testifying) he should notify everyone involved about his personal involvement with said chick.
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No. It's equally unethical. But the key part to "fake" is deception.
Contacting her via FB, a means she has complete control over accepting, is not an abuse of power or unethical. As long as does not stalk her if she does not respond, it ends there.
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03-17-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
So I'll probably get flamed for this, but I don't want to screw this up. Hopefully, you can lead me in the right direction.

I've always thought it was weird to approach girls through sites such as Facebook or Myspace, but I don't know if I have any other options.

Last week I responded to a residence for a criminal trespass and spoke with this older woman (79). While I was there, her granddaughter was there. I didn't think anything of it, but she was definitely cute, seemed intelligent, gave me the impression that she had strong ties to her family, and overall gave me the impression that she had goals for herself.

I ended up filing an arrest on her brother's girlfriend, who the whole family can't stand because her brother is an alcoholic and a drug user, and the girlfriend has been a big pain in the ass for our department with them constantly fighting.

Anyways, so the next day I went down there to clarify the situation and the granddaughter saw the police car there and she stopped in before heading to work. She is a nurse and was all dressed up, had her hair done really nice, and I was pretty much interested right then. I couldn't do much about it because I was working, but now I want to get ahold of her and see if she'd like to go out for dinner or something.

The problem is that I will probably never run into her again outside of my work so my only option is to add her as a friend on Facebook and then casually send her an email. That seems so stalkish/tacky and don't want to come across to her as that type.

I believe she is about 20-21 years old (I'm 25). For the past several months I didn't really care about meeting anybody, but after "meeting" her, I don't want to pass this up until I find out for sure that it won't work. I don't know if she is dating anyone, if she still lives with her parents, or anything like that.

So what is my play on this? Add her on facebook and then email her or just hope that I someday run into her outside of work, which will probably have a .01% chance of happening?

I don't have any pics of her as I can't get into her facebook profile yet.
No,no,no dont use facebook or myspace. Trust your first instinct on that.

Instead, you have the grandmother's phone number right? Just call her up and ask if her granddaughter is seeing anyone (not that you care, just so you dont look like a pig), and if not, then just get the number off the grandmother.

On a side note, typically, if you have two shots and you wiff both times, then youre already dead to rights, but since you were "on the job," she shouldnt care. Infact, she may even think its cute that youre so professional that you waited till later. Anyway, good luck.

Or you could ask the winggirls on youtube, theyre hilarious, and usually give good advice.
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03-17-2009 , 05:13 PM
also, nothing shady at all about shooting off a FB message. just dont come across as a creep and u will be fine.
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03-17-2009 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dalerobk
I think it is awkward and probably inappropriate in some way. Your interactions with her have all been as a police officer acting in a professional capacity and acting in a position of authority and power. It’s a bit awkward to then ask her out without any further contact outside of work. And if she’s not interested, you then put her in a weird spot, because she might now feel reluctant to call the police the next time her trailer trash family has a stereotypical trailer trash problem—a la “Cops.” It seems like the best play is to try to “randomly” bump into her at work or somewhere else.

A couple other questions, how is she a nurse at 20? Don’t you need a degree for that? Also, I’m gonna go out on the line here and say that she’s probably not as together as you think. Few people from these kind of families are. Having said that, she could be the exception, but proceed with caution.

BINGO, I'm in a profession where this is an obvious no-no. I'd imagine though that police officer is pretty similar. What is policy regarding this? I'd eprsonally think your cop friends would give way better advice than anyone here on this forum (just because I'm sure this situation happens often enough)
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03-17-2009 , 05:39 PM
If you want to impress a girl send her a real card. In the real mail. You know the kind you open and read in the real world. Think about it.
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03-17-2009 , 05:53 PM
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If you want to impress a girl send her a real card. In the real mail. You know the kind you open and read in the real world. Think about it.
yeah, don't do this.
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03-17-2009 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleH68
If you want to impress a girl send her a real card. In the real mail. You know the kind you open and read in the real world. Think about it.
Get out of here with your 20th century silliness. Op's only choice is to obviously quit the force and that way he can hit on any and all chicks he meets at any time.


Op, what's the official department stance on this though? There has to be some written up rules about this kind of thing, after you find that out follow them to the T as the old saying goes.
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