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Nah, wasn't going to just sit there and stomp my foot. I didn't want to be in a spot with zero leverage. But I did want to tell the manager my story in person, and hear from his mouth that he wasn't going to replace the tree. I never even got that satisfaction. And still haven't, surprisingly.

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08-03-2018 , 08:26 PM

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Sparks

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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief

Cheques are not like credit card transactions. This is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions I bet.

Writing bad checks is for sure a crime. Putting a stop payment on a check for a perceived lack of service, I'm pretty sure is a different story. I'd have to look into that, maybe a lawyer can assist with the crime I've committed, if I have. Kinda feels like I have actually.

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08-03-2018 , 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerjo21

Agree it was awful by you.

But as regards the tree - do you have enough bees in your garden to make sure it gets pollinated? And you probably ought to wait an entire season before deciding the plant isn't going to fruit.

Fruit not the issue. The tree never grew a leaf, or a twig. It looks exactly the same as the day I bought it, which actually, isn't bad, if it were winter. I bought it in winter.

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08-03-2018 , 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by de captain

I can't wait to hear the resolution to this story.

Pretty sure there is another chapter to come. If I get a call, and get to vent, I'd absolutely consider shipping the place its $70 back. No call yet though.

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08-03-2018 , 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe

Cliffs: OP committed bank fraud and stole a tree.

Bank fraud? Umm, don't think so. Stole a tree? Yeah, that's got some truth to it for sure.

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08-03-2018 , 08:31 PM

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Larry Legend

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We don't deserve Sparks.

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08-03-2018 , 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AzOther1

I am not a banker, and I've probably only written like 2 checks in the last 5 years, but the last time I had to stop payment on a check, I was told by the bank that if the check is presented to them, they probably will still end up paying it. This might vary by jurisdiction, of course. The bank prefers to not be placed in the middle of a dispute between a business and an individual, even if the individual is a customer of the bank.

I would have used the credit card, and disputed the charge thru them. Much easier, and IME, usually works out in your favor.

Don't think so here. Credit card disputes where you swiped your card and signed, and confirm that with your cc company, are pretty hard to get compensated for. At least that has been my experience. So didn't want to do that.

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08-03-2018 , 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alobar

id tell you to stop being friends with the people who didnt tell you it was chicken ****, but thats not going to help much since the main problem is you are the kind of person who would do something like this.

Doesnt it cost like $50 to stop payment on a check too? lol

My bank doesn't charge me to stop payment. Did it online, took 3 minutes.

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08-03-2018 , 08:33 PM

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de captain

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The real crime here is your inability to use multi quotes.

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08-03-2018 , 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

so the tldr of this story is you committed fraud because someone didnt call you about a tree?

Obviously there's a little more to it, but pretty much, yes.

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08-03-2018 , 08:36 PM

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Don't garden if you can't take losses. Wtf at stealing an apricot tree because your 2 attempts failed?! Research and find out where you went wrong or plant another type of tree that you don't actually kill. Also go to the nursery and say there was a mistake made and give them the money you owe. I feel sad that someone who is into gardening behaves in this way.

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08-03-2018 , 08:37 PM

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Sparks's willingness to post a controversial position and patiently respond to the (warranted) criticism makes him an elite poster.

Sparks, you're a great poster and this is a great thread and your actions were totally stupid.

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08-03-2018 , 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Umcle Diddler

The most offensive part of this story is you paid with a check. When you tip @ a poker table you probably tip 50 cent pieces.

Back when I played cards every day, I did a calc once, just cuz I was curious. In 2007 I tipped poker dealers from live games only, about $6500. I played 1080 hours of LHE that year. Tipped about $2 per hand I won.

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08-03-2018 , 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

lol, this. 100% stealing.

That is a totally standard policy for every nursery everywhere.

Perhaps, but I know Home Depot has a simple policy, if your plant dies, come back for a refund or replacement, no questions asked. It's a great, smart, policy.

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08-03-2018 , 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gregorio

So instead of just paying for the tree, now you'll also get to pay bank fees for the cancelled check

Nah.

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08-03-2018 , 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by businessdude

Was this the plan all along? Why else would you have your checkbook with you?

Not the plan all along, but it gave me the option if the the trip went sour. And to me, it did.

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08-03-2018 , 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparks

Nah.

Cool, so the nursery not only gave you a tree for free, but has to pay their bank for the privilege. Every time I've been paid by a check that bounced they actually paid up and paid the fees I incurred. Glad I've never had to deal with anyone like you.

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08-03-2018 , 08:57 PM

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Not sure which is worse, stealing a tree, or being a member for 15 years and not being able to multi-quote

LOL I replied only having seen the last 4 OP replies. Didn't even notice the amazing 8 straight posts earlier in the thread until afterwards!
OP should be tempbanned just for that idiocy alone

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08-03-2018 , 09:07 PM

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Personally I think if you're going to start a thread about stealing a tree it's only right to continue the idiocy by not using the multi-quote option.

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08-03-2018 , 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparks

Not "stomp your foot." Tell him whatever you wanted to tell him. If you wanted to hear from him that he wasn't going to replace the tree, I'm sure he could have arranged that.

My point was the biggest mistake you made that day was accepting his/his employee's bull**** explanation for dodging you.

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08-03-2018 , 09:51 PM

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Were both trees that died planted in the exact same spot? Maybe there could be an issue there with the soil or something.

If the tree was truly defective, I think the nursery should refund you but that is really hard to know. They probably get 1-2 customers a week who call to complain about something that didn't grow correctly and 90% of the time it's probably an issue with the customer, so I understand their policy.

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08-03-2018 , 11:00 PM

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Someone find out the name of the plant store and send them this thread.

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08-04-2018 , 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparks

Perhaps, but I know Home Depot has a simple policy, if your plant dies, come back for a refund or replacement, no questions asked. It's a great, smart, policy.

Why didn't you purchase your trees from there if this is the case?

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08-04-2018 , 12:08 AM

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08-04-2018 , 02:13 AM

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dylance

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Extremely chicken **** but I almost respect the play in some weird way. Had you picked a better situation to pull the check cancellation move I'd be fully on board with this. Not really my style but I'm gonna keep this play in my back pocket for the right spot.

Did you ever consider putting any blame on yourself for not taking care of the plants well enough? Apricot's are fickle in SoCal and avocados thrive in those parts.

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