Looks curved to me.

Of all the dodges, this question stands out to me as the most crucial:

Bigot and Moo,

Do you personally believe that the Earth is flat?

He's trolling and I'm obv not going to watch his vids, but this would be in reference to the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim Nephilim in Genesis 6.

Wow, I suck at Tapatalk, it won't let me edit it for some reason. Oh well.

They're trying to say that there is a disk at the top of the dome; the northern hemisphere sees the bottom of the disk and the southern hemisphere sees the top of the disk through its reflection in the dome. And that's how the different hemispheres see different constellations.

Even if that's the case (it's not) it still doesn't explain how someone looking directly south (directly away from the center of the earth in their perspective) at 0 degrees longitude would see the same stars in the same positions at the same time as someone looking directly south (directly away from the center of the earth) at 90 degrees longitude (reference my earlier diagram for a visual).

there are a couple of issues with their model...

Their are fossils of pictures and video?!?

Those VHS tapes and Polaroids must be millions of years old!!!

since you like the youtubes -

Heliocentrism simply does not add up and I've instinctively known this for a very long time. All the anomalies which have already been mentioned ITT that I could never come to terms with for example:

Daytime full moons
Seeing Venus or Mercury at night
The obvious fact that the moon and sun are the same size
Only seeing one side of the moon
Complete lack of visible curvature anywhere
Perfectly circular star trails around polaris NO MATTER WHAT SEASON IT IS
Unchanging constellations
The disappointing let down when watching a launch on TV, and they cut to CGI before any curvature is shown

And yeah, I stumbled on YT FE vids one night without searching for it, it just popped up in my feed and I thought i'd check it out. That got me into watching the moon every night and realizing that virtually NO ONE knows SQUAT about the lunar cycles or when you can expect to see the moon come up. Not to mention the fact that people are always so surprised and confused when I point out the moon in the sky during the day.

It simply does NOT add up. ONLY ONE anomaly DESTROYS the entire theory. 3 is ALWAYS smaller than 5. If you ever find an instance that it is not, YOU START FROM SCRATCH. Truth does NOT CHANGE.

I also don't have 50 years worth of taxpayers money, or a team of actors at my disposal.

Furthermore, I already destroyed your notion that accurate prediction of WHEN equates to knowledge of WHO, WHAT, WHERE, HOW, or WHY

Just quit the thread. This has been debunked multiple times. Ship goes 'over the curve', zoom in. VOILA it's back.

Ever wonder how useful a periscope could be on a curved ocean? LOL

What? This is what YOU GUYS ARE SAYING. We ask how water can curve even though it is COMPLETELY UNOBSERVABLE and you say "gravity."

OH CRAP YOU'RE RIGHT AND I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT BUBBLE BATH!!!!1!1

FALSE EQUIVALENCY.

How about the moon being visible in australia and alaska at the same time?!?!?!

Why is this strange?

This is a new one. It makes perfect sense to me. Why do you find this problematic?

You guys would have an easier time explaining Taylor series expansion to a 2 year old than basic geometry to FE people. They don't actually want correct answers, they want to believe things, which is exactly why easy experiments don't even register as a possible path to understanding. There is no reasoning you can appeal to here.

As I said before, the moon is tidally locked to the earth. It revolves once per 30-ish days, the same time it takes to orbit the earth. That's because it's density is not perfectly distributed and the heavy side is pulled by the earth's gravity (there's that g word again) to always face the earth.

I doubt you've ever actually seen this. Try it with a regular speedboat or something that only has structure 4 or 5 feet above water, not a sailboat or cruise ship.

Earth's curvature wouldn't come into play for at least a few miles. A sub can't shoot a torpedo that far so they wouldn't care.

Gravity is very observable. Nothing I see is floating away.

Ummmmmm I think you missed the whole point, unsurprisingly.

Carry on.....

No, it isn't. This is the same thinking as leodoc, who says that NASA's ability to predict WHEN an eclipse happens also explains WHAT is happening.

What goes up must come down. Everyone knows this. No one is debating it. It's the WHY that is in question. Us being able to stand on the ground without floating away does not explain how oceans can be stuck to the bottom of a ball while insects can hover above it. It doesn't add up.

oceans dont have wings tho

They're called wings Moo. Wings.

So gravity is strong enough to pull down some billion tons of water, but an insect with a wingspan of 1 mm can overpower that?

LOL

Moo, this is the exact reason why people end up insulting your intelligence. The fact that you can't understand things like this is unbelievable to people of average intellect+

As I've said several times... you not understanding something, does not mean it isn't true.

The force of gravity extremely weak and is directly proportional to the mass of the objects.

An insect is obviously tiny and their tiny wings can displace enough air to keep them aloft. It's really not that complicated.

moo is smart enough to understand that. He's just yanking your chain.

hey leo doc do you know anything about anatomy and biology? perhaps you could comment on this video about mud fossils.

I don't share your confidence.

You are not good at this.