But...she's engaged...I think I've already decided to surrender based on that fact alone.

Does she ever help you at work? This is crucial.

If so, PROCEED.

I think the chances she is going to drop her fiance and get with you are 1-2% max. If you need to know they are literally 0% then there's no harm in dropping a couple hints and confirming.

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What? No. You're autistic bro. She didn't report you over that because no one would; she gains zip from reporting you and it doesn't affect her in any way.

This. Why should be satisfied that one man finds her attractive? Surely she feels better if you also find her attractive, right?

Women don't have to see this as a moral issue - she probably doesn't assume you are pinning your hopes on her in the way you are. She could also think you enjoy flirting with her (you should btw) and/or she might not care or have rationalised it some other way. Basically it's nice for you that she ranks you high enough to want you to be attracted to her and it's nice for her that you rank her high enough to be attracted - it doesn't mean she is going to turn her life upside down to find out if you have a bigger **** than her fiance.

You really don't know this. They always come out of the blue - at least from the perspective of the person they are made against.

As I said earlier, she doesn't have to see that as a moral issue at all, therefore kindness isn't an issue.

What else do co-workers talk about?

For the sheer fun of getting someone into trouble you mean?

Sexual harassment allegations actually pay off for her personally so are different.

Women generally look for men who outrank them in terms of income, social status/social class (whatever that means where you are *), age, intelligence and physical size (for some of these like age, slightly is enough). The description of her fiance suggests she is not an exception. You are the right age and relative intelligence but as you are at the same level in your company you are the wrong income, social status and you may or may not be the right physical size. Others suggest building more of a social life to get a wider choice. I'd add hitting the gym and bulking up a bit as it also widens your choice (this could be something like moving from being less bulked than most men your age to being more bulked than half the men your age, just over the halfway line - when you are in the middle, very little work will move you up a ton of percentiles - I don't mean you need to spend an hour every day trying get in the top 5 percent or something). Also buy a home. If you are 29 you should own one or be looking at ones to buy - otherwise you will be pegged as a Peter Pan figure.

You say she has a personality you are drawn to. The thing you have to understand about women is that their personalities change, particularly when you start a relationship with them. Instead, prioritise looks - which change slowly and generally remain consistent with what you had before, taking into account normal aging, which of course applies to you too - for example my own wife was a hot 24 year old when we met and she's still attractive at nearly 40. She's put on 8 kilos since then but she still looks great naked as she's gone from 54 to 62, so she was slim to start with. I've also put on 10 kilos and 15 years myself.

I met my own wife at work. She said "no" first time so I tried again later and got together with her. I didn't care about the job that much and it was in pre-EU Eastern Europe (which at that time was as wonderfully open as you would imagine from this point of view). I don't recommend the double-ask strategy with a job you care about and an English speaking country, but most girls like to be chased a bit, which makes it really difficult to do at work.

Regarding option A - it's too weak. I'd say it's ok to let her know but not in the sense that you will be the beta backup option.

Regarding the word "scummy". If you google it, the first entry is the urban dictionary definition. That means you should never use it in the presence of anyone you are trying to impress.

* There are a few communities where this still means "breeding" in the old style sense, with teenagers it could also mean acknowledged coolness, in old-world Europe it often refers to level of education completed, in the poker world it would mean "seen as good at poker". It's very context-dependent but in this workplace you seem to be at the same level so your status in the context is probably equal.

Most insecure post itt. OP not lusting after your fiancee.

By the way, who the hell gets engaged in the modern world? Do you pay three cows to her father after asking his permission?

For that matter, what is the economic sense behind getting married? I did it to get immigration papers, but in general it's hard to justify.

Where are you from?

Ben,


Jesus, talk about an emotional rollercoaster to start the day!

Guys, Holliday was trying to be funny. His post was full of sarcasm.


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If someone is going to give up someone they're engaged to for another guy, then it's only going to be for someone they're head-over-heels in love with. You've worked closely with this woman for a year and 95% of your interaction is still work related. If she had such strong feelings for you she would have given you some kind of sign by now - you'd be having lunch together regularly, texting about personal matters outside of work hours, stuff like that.

If you're interested you can try to develop a more personal friendship with her, initiate conversations about what you did on the weekend/ on vacation, maybe see if she wants to go for lunch some day. Maybe (but probably not) this will blossom into romantic feelings - or maybe you'll realize she really wasn't your type anyway. Maybe you'll just make a new friend who isn't interested in you romantically, which isn't such a bad result either.

I think what happened to OP is that Cupid was going around on Valentine's Day and OP got shot in the ass by one of his arrows. The love potion should wear off soon and he'll be slapping himself wondering what the hell happened.

Ah, but the potion doesn't wear of until you dip the arrow in the honey pot.

OP, just walk into work and lock eyes with her as serious/sexy as you can. Then slowly glide your eyes down to her feet and back up to her eyes and say, "nice shoes, wanna ****?". If she says no, just say it was a dare and you got paid $50 to do it. IF she says yes, you ride the god damn D train to pound town!! Or, just fake being sick to get empathy from your crush that probably just had her fiances dick in her mouth before work

This seems like the best opportunity for a drunk Saturday night "when you going to let me tap that?" text.

Lolled. Im pretty sure even you could think of a few reasons.

Two options.

Tonight - go home - have a few beers (or several depending on your tolerance)
and then:
A: text her "when are you going to dump your fiance so you and I can go out?'
or
B: text her "when you going to let me hit that?"

then if she reacts badly - say you were just joking or you texted the wrong person

or -- I just came up with an option C:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvJn4ts2H7M

not exactly the same but worth considering.

She wants to fvck.

I don't know what you're talking about.

i say go for it. nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Yeah this is a good way to go about it. Mention how you've been single for ages and are sick of it and are going out on a date tonight. See how she takes it. Her reaction will tell you everything. If you really want to be a dick, say that all the good girls are engaged.
My cuckmeter is going to explode if you keep this up. Have a little fun. Don't you at least want to know? This is obviously still important to you. So get your answer, you'll either be grabbing closure or a drink with her if you try this play.

Honestly man, what info has he provided itt that makes you believe her reaction to these "seeds" will be interpreted appropriately by OP?

Well, that's why we're here - to help and guide OP.

USA#1. For the record, I left before Trump even announced he was running.