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Old 04-11-2015, 10:39 PM   #101
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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Because we can measure seismic information doesnt mean we know there is a core, it just means there is something beneath what we've dug. It doesnt prove or disprove a globe and why when I said I dont know I dont really sweat about it because I have no idea whats outside any of the boundaries.

This is your dumbest statement yet because as jmakin said, we can know what material exists because the speed of the wave. It absolutely means we can know if there is a core and what it consists of.


Only reason I am actually seriously responding to this statement is that I think you aren't aware of this fact.
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:40 PM   #102
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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Lol you think a river flowing north on a curved earth would be going uphill.... My god i don't even...
Your reading comprehension is so bad and general level of parroting so poor it wont be much longer until Im done with responding to you.

I asked you to explain how water north of the equator flows uphill (it is clearly implied that rivers flow south and therefor uphill towards the equator).
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:46 PM   #103
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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So, RF, why exactly are we all being lied to? How is it advantageous to the powers that be for us to believe the earth isn't flat?
What if the designers of our dome are actively engaged in managing it? Cristof didnt want Truman to find out and end the show. God struck down the Tower of Babel.

If this was found out it would make a laughing stock of everything that NASA is and completely change the structure of society.

There are plenty of good reasons to keep this concealed but not being the one running the show I cant tell you exactly why it is.
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:46 PM   #104
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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Old 04-11-2015, 10:49 PM   #105
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

“Another thing is certain, that from within the equator the north pole star, and the constellations Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, and many others, can be seen from every meridian simultaneously; whereas in the south, from the equator, neither the so-called south pole star, nor the remarkable constellation of the Southern Cross, can be seen simultaneously from every meridian, showing that all the constellations of the south - pole star included - sweep over a great southern arc and across the meridian, from their rise in the evening to their setting in the morning. But if the earth is a globe, Sigma Octantis, a south pole star, and the Southern Cross, a southern circumpolar constellation, they would all be visible at the same time from every longitude on the same latitude, as is the case with the northern pole star and the northern circumpolar constellations. Such, however, is not the case.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (286)
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:53 PM   #106
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time


If the Earth truly were a spinning ball orbiting the Sun, there are several tests and experiments which could be, and have been, conducted to prove or disprove the veracity of such a claim. For example, Danish Astronomer Tycho Brahe famously argued against the heliocentric theory in his time, positing that if the Earth revolved in an orbit round the Sun, the change in relative position of the stars after 6 months of orbital motion could not fail to be seen. He argued that the stars should seem to separate as we approach and come together as we recede. In actual fact, however, after almost two hundred million miles of supposed orbit around the Sun, not a single inch of parallax can be detected in the stars! Desperate heliocentrists, instead of conceding, doubled-down claiming the stars were all actually trillions upon trillions of miles away from us, so incredibly far away that no appreciable parallax could ever be detected! This convenient explanation, which heliocentrists have clung to for centuries, has proven satisfactory to silence the uninquisitive minds of the masses, but still falls short because even at trillions of miles away, a two hundred million mile change in position WILL create a measurable difference. The following video explores several more modern proofs that the Earth is not spinning, rotating, revolving, tilting, wobbling, or shooting through infinite space as NASA has brainwashed us to believe.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:01 PM   #107
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

the stars in the sky are also moving through the galaxy while the position of the earth is moving. Thats some really advanced physics stuff to predict what position in the sky the stars should be at any given time.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:06 PM   #108
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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jmakin makes assertions that have no basis in reality.

-He says it is atmospheric refraction is the cause of seeing objects thousands of feet below the horizon. It is laughable.

-He admits that the earth does not curve in such circumstances as salt flats, states, and rivers but instead these are outliers and invents us living on a porcupine earth. Laughable.

-He thinks that fluid dynamics explain the mantel when the model they are running on is incorrect and the factual information is we have never been lower than 8 miles because it is impenetrable.
What explains when you go in an airplane you can see the curvature of the earth?
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:06 PM   #109
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

trolololol
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:23 PM   #110
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

RF has shown through the years in his posting that he is mentally unwell. We should treat him like the many others who come into OOT and are mentally unstable.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:25 PM   #111
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RF has shown through the years in his posting that he is mentally unwell. We should treat him like the many others who come into OOT and are mentally unstable.

Yup. Time for him to be permabanned.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:37 PM   #112
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River, you still haven't stated what's on the underside of the earth.
Australia obv
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:38 PM   #113
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World governments are well aware that Antarctica is something very different than what we are told. Look at the room the members of the Antarctica Treaty System meet in (:
Please elaborate on the significance of the room set up.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:44 PM   #114
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Seriously? They all have a couple hours of layovers. Call it 16 hours in air for Sydney to Buenos Aires, 20 hours for either to Anchorage. It doesn't change the question.

The airlines are all in on the scam. Seriously this will be the answer. That or the planes are actually moving faster but the GPS is rigged by the Illuminati. I've seen this asked and answered on flat earth forums
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:45 PM   #115
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Gravity is completely bunk at this point. Ill get more into the history of why it was invented later on.
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Old 04-12-2015, 12:28 AM   #116
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

lol man its pretty funny thread but the responses are funnier, i honestly cant tell if some people are dense enough to think OP isnt just messing around.
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Old 04-12-2015, 12:44 AM   #117
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

He isnt
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Old 04-12-2015, 12:47 AM   #118
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

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Old 04-12-2015, 01:39 AM   #119
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

re: underside of flat earth:

a race of mole men?

or

damned souls enduring eternal torture?
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Old 04-12-2015, 01:46 AM   #120
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

Why not both!
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Old 04-12-2015, 02:10 AM   #121
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

OP, what are your thoughts on:
- God
- Age of the earth
- Evolution
- Bigfoot
- Ancient aliens
- The Bermuda triangle
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Old 04-12-2015, 02:26 AM   #122
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

i dont think its useful to ask OP questions like that if you want him to stick around and participate. i definitely hope he sticks around. i'm sure he has opinions of some of those subjects that go against the mainstream consensus, but the ? reads like "so how crazy are you?"

RiverFenix, how were you first introduced to and convince by arguments that the earth is flat? talk about the process that changed your views since everyone starts out believing the earth is a sphere.

also i'm interested in your answer to the practical question another poster asked about flight times. you dodged that one pretty bad, and for you to believe the earth is flat you must have found an answer to that type of question you're satisfied with.

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Old 04-12-2015, 02:29 AM   #123
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

RF,

What are you thoughts on the so-called:

a) space shuttle
b) international space station
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Re: The biggest lie: Revisiting Heliocenticisim and a Flat Earth for the first time

Thread also needs TheGreenMaji.
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Old 04-12-2015, 02:35 AM   #125
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i dont think its useful to ask OP questions like that if you want him to stick around and participate. i definitely hope he sticks around. i'm sure he has opinions of some of those subjects that go against the mainstream consensus, but the ? reads like "so how crazy are you?"
LOL, he just opened a topic arguing that the earth is flat. I think that answers the question of how crazy he is.

I'm just curious about the rest of his world views and how they interconnect.
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