Now I don't believe in FE, but.....


Now I'm not a racist, but....

Magi, if you have a couple million bucks lying around, we can easily prove it to you--will ship you out to space so you can see round earth for your self. It's amazing what people will believe and the proof that exists are clearly out there, you guys just continue to ignore them.

Lets get some fresh eyes on this. Can some of you watch the clip from 3:11 to 3:42



It looks to me like the lens is distorting the picture. It looks to me like the earth is changing shape due to the camera lens.

RF,

Popular thought that the earth was flat switch to sphere a long time ago, like the 1600-1700s. What was the prevailing reason to start the cover up at this point? How has this reason for the necessity of the coverup existed all the way til now? Or are we just putting a lot of Sheeple in positions of power an they blindly follow the coverup?

NASA wasn't around then so what organization was in charge of it back then?

The Illuminati.

TGM, if you don't trust that particular video, there are plenty of others: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...shuttle+launch

I'm guessing in true conspiritard fashion though, you'll spend years "asking questions" about a few seconds of video that you think doesn't look quite right rather than accepting the overwhelming mountain of evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

Spherical earth goes way back. It was that we revolved around the sun that was a harder pill to swallow.

Pythagoras is one of the possible first Spherical Earthers.

iirc it wasnt accepted as fact by majority of the world until 16-1700s, I could be wrong.

The same thing happens when you start it at 2:15. It seems like a distorting however seconds after that footage we can see a clearly curved earth throughout quite a while. Now if these guys are somehow in on it, why would they even show the curved/distorted images ?

The best part of this thread is TheGreenMagi being much more dumb and completely genuine while RF is at least partly, if not completely trolling. Troll long enough and someone will come in on your side and believe some really, really dumb things.

The 9/11 stuff is every bit as dumb as the flat earth stuff. Maybe worse, for reasons already provided.

Funnily enough, comments have someone claiming earth being flat too.

The spherical earth had been well accepted for like, a frickin millennium before Columbus' time - he was known as a crackpot for wanting to circumnavigate, and the reason he was considered a crackpot was that he thought the circumference of the earth was like 4000 miles or something stupid, when it was well known at the time that it was much, much larger. History has been kinder to Columbus than perhaps any individual in human history.

@custer

It varies quite a bit if you look it up. I would think that without having a notion of gravity it's a little hard to think of people on the other side of the earth as not being upside down.

Brahmagupta, an Indian mathematician and astronomer may have been the first (in the 7th century) to propose that the Earth was a sphere and it was the earth attracting objects. Aristotle thought that objects were attracted to the center of the universe because that was their natural place. Brahmagupta might also have been the first person to do calculations with zero.

"Lets get some fresh eyes on this. Can some of you watch the clip from 3:11 to 3:42"

OK, I looked and the Magi has a point. Fisheye type lens and curvature does flip.

The world is still round, however.

Agreed. And thank you!

Again, I'm not claiming that the earth is flat... I would just like to see some proof that it's round. The video that was supposedly 100% proof of roundness is clearly using a lens that distorts the picture.

However, when I clearly pointed out how the lens is distorting things, many of you said that it wasn't distorting anything and that I was crazy. Anyone going to admit that they were wrong here? You were all saying that there was no distortion, when any idiot can clearly see the distortion.

I'm not saying that anyone is in on it. I'm not saying the earth is flat.

I'm simply saying that this camera has a fish-eye lens and it distorts the picture and therefore, this is not good proof that the earth is round.

They probably decided to use a fish-eye lens just because it gets a wider angle shot (not for any nefarious purpose).

If there are similar videos that use a normal lens, I would like to see those.

Any of the people who criticized me for questioning the lens used in that footage... anyone willing to admit that you were wrong and I was correct?

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Again... clearly a fish-eye lens. You can see how the lens adds curvature if you watch around 8:30 in the video.

Is it so much to ask to see some footage of the earth that uses a normal lens that doesn't distort the shape of the earth?

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The point is that these people and ships are going into space and seeing it and they fly around the earth too.

You can buy a telescope and see the International Space Station. You don't need to trust the pixels on this.

Define "fish-eye" and "normal" lenses. Thank you.

A very round-looking earth as seen from partway to the moon.

View of Earth from Apollo 12 (note the Spacecraft-Lunar Module Adapter panel which can be seen tumbling away)

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No fisheye can do this. Of course, if all of the Apollo program was a hoax, this does no good for us round earthers.

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

Again, I think the camera is distorting it. Though I could be wrong on this one... not really too sure.

Pause the video at 6:35... earth looks round. Then just skip ahead every 10 seconds... as the earth becomes close to the center of the camera, it looks flatter and flatter. By the 9:15 mark... it looks almost completely flat.

The fish-eye was very obvious in the first video that was posted... and it's very obvious in the redbull video also. With this video, it's way more subtle... but it still looks like the lens is adding curvature somehow. Maybe not a fish-eye... but something might not be right here.

More videos like this one would be good. Preferably ones without so much stuff in the way blocking the view.

edit: if you watch the video from about 10:30 - 10:35... it flattens out so much that it actually looks like it becomes a concave shape. So it appears that the lens is distorting the shape in this video also.

seriously?

"Guys lets go into space to fix our fake moon. On the way lets shoot some shots of the flat earth with a concave lens to really rub it in to the people that their planet is indeed round. LOL, stupid sheep."

-The Illuminati