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04-14-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Smoke rises in air the same way an air bubble rises in water.

Maybe everyone is right and you are just an insane troll.
yea i'm out, have fun
04-14-2015 , 06:02 PM
What about the numerous people who have crossed Antarctica on foot? What about people who have reached the same spot we call the south pole from different directions despite starting at locations you say are on opposite sides of the planet? What about the countless people who have sailed around Antarctica without noticing that they had to travel to circumference of the Earth to do so? What about pilots who have flown over it and dropped supplies to researchers without any reports of seeing ice walls or the edge of the world? If the world is how you describe it, why has not one flat-earther hopped on a boat in the southern hemisphere with a video camera and proven it? This isn't the freaking moon landing where we're trusting what the government is telling us, it's the open sea where anyone with a boat can go and demonstrate indisputably that the southern hemisphere is 3 goddamn times larger than it should be! Yet after centuries of opportunity for flat-earthers to show us we're all wrong... *crickets*
04-14-2015 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ungoliant
What about the numerous people who have crossed Antarctica on foot? What about people who have reached the same spot we call the south pole from different directions despite starting at locations you say are on opposite sides of the planet? What about the countless people who have sailed around Antarctica without noticing that they had to travel to circumference of the Earth to do so? What about pilots who have flown over it and dropped supplies to researchers without any reports of seeing ice walls or the edge of the world? If the world is how you describe it, why has not one flat-earther hopped on a boat in the southern hemisphere with a video camera and proven it? This isn't the freaking moon landing where we're trusting what the government is telling us, it's the open sea where anyone with a boat can go and demonstrate indisputably that the southern hemisphere is 3 goddamn times larger than it should be! Yet after centuries of opportunity for flat-earthers to show us we're all wrong... *crickets*
“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)
04-14-2015 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
What does bidirectional mean in this instance? No one has ever sailed North to South.
But they've gone Argentina to Antarctic to Australia .
04-14-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)
A guy who wrote “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” says so, huh? Well I'm convinced. Nevermind the hundreds of explorers and scientists who would say he's wrong then.
04-14-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)
So your response is a single anecdote in which the exact route taken is not shown?
04-14-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)



Is this what a straight line looks like in the fe model?

"circuit of the southern region"
04-14-2015 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Smoke rises in air the same way an air bubble rises in water.

Maybe everyone is right and you are just an insane troll.
Ive already covered that it's not a function of gravity but of weight and resistance. It's pretty clear that instead of believing in graviton hocus pocus the answer was already well known.
04-14-2015 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911



Is this what a straight line looks like in the fe model?

"circuit of the southern region"
LOL

Also worth noting is that Mr. William Carpenter, our foremost expert on indirect seafaring in the southern hemisphere, wrote those words in 1885, a few decades before humans set foot on the south pole. I was trying to find a copy of his surely insightful book, but sadly it seems long out of print. At least his immortal words are living on in the form of a single quote copied liberally across dozens of flat-earth websites though.
04-14-2015 , 06:45 PM
OP,

Who informed you of the truth behind FE initially? Your parents? A friend? A podcast? A website?
04-14-2015 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Europa
Conspiracy nuts are so interesting, they are obviously dumb at some level, but I'd guess they are actually above average (in their respective circles) because they do show curiosity, "critical" thinking etc for a brief period - and then succumb to whatever newsletter gets them first.

I feel a certain connection to them, like I do with religious people; it would be nice to just let go of reason and believe in something big out there. Would also feel pretty good to be a special snowflake again.
There's a big difference between someone who thinks the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were demolished and someone who thinks the Earth is flat.

If you don't think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, are you a "conspiracy nut"??? Because I think a lot of normal, educated people don't believe the official story of the JFK assassination.
04-14-2015 , 07:50 PM
Not really. If you want to think the SA government was in on it, or that some people in the US government knew about 9/11, w/e, but the controlled demolition thing is not far off from the FE society.
04-14-2015 , 07:54 PM
Also, I don't know what the "official" JFK story is. The Warren Commission concluded Oswald was acting alone, but the US House Select Committee concluded that Kennedy was "probably assassinated as the result of a conspiracy."

That doesn't mean it was the CIA, the Mossad or Lizard people. Just that it wasn't Oswald alone.
04-14-2015 , 08:02 PM
Almost always, when someone starts off talking about "the official story" it's being set up as a strawman to suggest something completely crazy. Most people with any common sense know that we never really know the one absolute, unbiased, indisputable truth about any complex event. Conspiracy nuts love anything remotely presented as such though because it gives them something to poke holes in and create innuendo.
04-14-2015 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Not really. If you want to think the SA government was in on it, or that some people in the US government knew about 9/11, w/e, but the controlled demolition thing is not far off from the FE society.
You think that controlled demolition theory is not far off of the FE theory?

So someone who thinks this was a controlled demolition is almost just as crazy as someone who thinks the earth is flat?

04-14-2015 , 08:07 PM
Here we go...
04-14-2015 , 08:13 PM
Yes, controlled demolition theory is not far off from FE. The biggest difference is that one of them is more likely to get you banned in OOT.
04-14-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Yes, controlled demolition theory is not far off from FE. The biggest difference is that one of them is more likely to get you banned in OOT.
If you can't see the difference between legitimate 9/11 research done by thousands of architects and engineers with lots of experience and educational qualifications... and a few nuts who think the earth is flat with few if any credentials... then you're basically admitting that you have no critical thinking skills whatsoever.


Last edited by TheGreenMagi; 04-14-2015 at 08:26 PM.
04-14-2015 , 08:29 PM
Here's another big difference, one of those theories is ridiculous and harmless and the other is ridiculous and offensive and about the murder of 3000 people and doesn't belong in OOT. I don't know if you care about being banned or not, but you're quite possibly heading that direction.
04-14-2015 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Here's another big difference, one of those theories is ridiculous and harmless and the other is ridiculous and offensive and about the murder of 3000 people and doesn't belong in OOT. I don't know if you care about being banned or not, but you're quite possibly heading that direction.
This is the last thing i'll mention about 9/11, cause I don't want to derail this thread... but you'll find that a lot of the family members of the 9/11 victims are 9/11 truthers. It's the family members who pushed for an investigation and many have been on the front lines exposing 9/11 truth.

Your support of the ridiculous 19 hijacker theory is offensive to many 9/11 family members who want a real investigation.

04-14-2015 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Here's another big difference, one of those theories is ridiculous and harmless and the other is ridiculous and offensive and about the murder of 3000 people and doesn't belong in OOT. I don't know if you care about being banned or not, but you're quite possibly heading that direction.

Open your eyes sheeple!
04-15-2015 , 12:10 AM
Another experiment repeatedly performed to disprove Earth’s supposed rotation under our feet is firing cannons vertically and horizontally in all cardinal directions. If the Earth were truly spinning Eastwards underneath us as the heliocentric model suggests then vertically-fired cannonballs should fall significantly due West. In actual fact, though, whenever this has been tested, vertically-fired cannonballs, perfectly aimed with a plumb line, lit with a slow match, shoot upwards an average of 14 seconds ascending, 14 seconds descending, and fall back to the ground no more than 2 feet away from the cannon, sometimes directly back into the muzzle! If the Earth were actually spinning at the supposed rate of 600-700 mph at the mid-latitudes of England and America where the tests have been performed, the cannonballs should fall a full 8,400 feet, or over a mile and a half behind the cannon!

“The following experiment has been tried many times, and the reasonable deductions from it are entirely against any theory of earth’s motion: A loaded cannon was set vertical by plumb-line and spirit-level and fired. The average time the ball was in the air was 28 seconds. On several occasions the ball returned to the mouth of the cannon, and never fell more than 2 feet from its base. Now, let us see what the result would be if the earth were a rapidly rotating sphere. The ball would partake of two motions, the one from the cannon vertical, and the other from the earth, from west to east. While it had been ascending, the earth, with the cannon, would have moved significantly. In descending it would have no impulse from the earth’s motion or from the cannon, and would fall in a straight line, but during the time it were falling, the earth, with the cannon, would have travelled on, and the ball would fall (allowing the world’s rotation to be 600 miles per hour in England) more than a mile and a half behind the cannon.” -A.E. Skellam

Again, at this point, instead of conceding, desperate heliocentrists triple-down claiming the reason cannonballs fall straight back is because the magical properties of gravity allow Earth to somehow drag the entire lower-atmosphere in perfect synchronization with its axial spin rendering even such break-neck speeds completely unnoticeable to the observer and unmeasurable by experimentation! This highly implausible, though clever and convenient explanation only holds for vertically-fired cannons, however. If cannons are instead fired and measured in all cardinal directions, even the heliocentrists’ atmospheric-velcro trump-card becomes unplayable. North/South-firing cannonballs establish a control, then the East-firing cannonballs should fall significantly farther than all others and West-firing cannonballs should fall significantly closer due to the supposed 19 mile per second Eastward rotation of the Earth. In actual fact, however, regardless of which direction cannons are fired, North, South, East, or West, the distance covered is always the same.
04-15-2015 , 12:17 AM
nice try at regaining attention but that last post just cemented the troll status.
04-15-2015 , 12:24 AM
Yep. Def Troll. That's no fun. I was hoping to actually argue with a crazy.
04-15-2015 , 12:31 AM
It's pretty compelling, actually. It's exactly like how each time you ride an airplane they give you all of those warnings about how you need to always keep in contact with some part of the airplane, because if you were to jump then you would lose all of your forward momentum and the back of the plane would crash into you at 500 mph, killing you instantly.

      
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