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05-29-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
There is no gravity so there's nothing to explain.
That wasn't my question. What causes things to fall down when not supported, or have weight proportionate to their mass? What is your model's substitute for the fraud that is gravity?
05-29-2017 , 02:34 PM
Pretty sure this is their explanation:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

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The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.
I like that one of their first topics is titled this:

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Is this site a joke?
This site is not a joke. We are actively promoting the Flat Earth Movement worldwide. There are, admittedly, several non-serious flat earth posters, but they are fairly easy to identify.
05-29-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Don't tell me you idiots think Canada is an actual place?
That free health care was an obvious proof that country is fake
05-29-2017 , 02:54 PM
Man capone i was rooting for you but you're gonna be on the ignore list soon too. Throughout the thread the concept of upward accelerating earth and flat earth society being a shill organization has been well stated.

Density and buoyancy has been well covered. I am not going to rehash. Read the thread and ask a better question then muh gravity??
05-29-2017 , 02:58 PM
Pretty sure Moo quoted that crap verbatim.
05-29-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
When you identify them as the major religions it doesn't seem like they are losing out. They can always say they knew along or find other ways to keep the flock. I wouldn't say any of the modern leaders or their council are the pious leaders we're propagandized into believing. The deception all around doesnt somehow end with the major religions. What would your answer be if I asked you why you thought they'd go along with it?
People use to be burned at the stake and **** for proclaiming things such as "the world is not flat", "**** doesn't revolve around the earth" and such, due to to not abiding by religious beliefs.

Now those religions are just cool with it, even though the world is obviously flat?

If one of the religious groups could prove the world is flat (easily done), then they would basically be able to proclaim science as bull**** and God is almighty. Millions of people (and trillions of dollars) would come flocking back to the church.

Seems like a good idea for the church to me.

Last edited by fidstar-poker; 05-29-2017 at 03:27 PM.
05-29-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Having driven around Australia a lot. I can tell you it takes longer to drive from Brisbane to Melbourne, than from Melbourne to Adelaide (about twice as long). But on your map, it's the same distance. Is my car in on the round globe conspiracy?
05-29-2017 , 03:28 PM
Bigot,

There's thousands of posts in the thread, and I searched for yours that referenced gravity and read a dozen about the water ball which is of no internet to me. Similarly I'm not saying you believe in the constantly accelerating earth. Sorry I don't have a perfect memory of all the nonsense and which is yours vs moos from the thread. If you're going to engage in the thread it seems stupid and disingenuous to just go "read the thread hurrrr" when someone asks an honest question.
05-29-2017 , 03:38 PM
fidstar, the southern hemisphere is a deception. North American shut-ins like Bigot can't afford to visit, so it doesn't actually exist.
05-29-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Routinely said there is no atom splitting. Nuclear power is not what you think it is. Radioactive material can get hot, tons and tons of hot material could feasibly boil some water. Thinking nuclear reactors are some place where they're splitting the atom for energy is ridiculous and no flat earth - no nukes holds that position.


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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
I assure you that the difficulties in understanding lie solely in your inability to grasp the simple concept of a dump load applied to a massive power grid.

If anything in this backwards world you claim the math works against me? lol. the math of nuclear fission and controlled reactions doesn't work in your favor in the slightest.


This thread had some of the dumbest things written in modern times posted already and then these two post come and take the cake.


Just stop Bigot. It's more potful than embarrassing now, watching you try to be condescending.
05-29-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Having driven around Australia a lot. I can tell you it takes longer to drive from Brisbane to Melbourne, than from Melbourne to Adelaide (about twice as long). But on your map, it's the same distance. Is my car in on the round globe conspiracy?
Did you miss the posts where I said we don't have our own map and that sizes can be skewered? That means that one like this is an approximation.
05-29-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by citanul
Bigot,

There's thousands of posts in the thread, and I searched for yours that referenced gravity and read a dozen about the water ball which is of no internet to me. Similarly I'm not saying you believe in the constantly accelerating earth. Sorry I don't have a perfect memory of all the nonsense and which is yours vs moos from the thread. If you're going to engage in the thread it seems stupid and disingenuous to just go "read the thread hurrrr" when someone asks an honest question.
Do you understand the concepts of density and buoyancy? Do you realize all of the atmospheric pressure around you? If you understand these concepts then you don't need an additional explanation for why things fall. It should be completely apparent even if you do believe in gravity that the primary action on an object will be from density and buoyancy. If there is something refined you'd like me to explain I'll share what I think.
05-29-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
People use to be burned at the stake and **** for proclaiming things such as "the world is not flat", "**** doesn't revolve around the earth" and such, due to to not abiding by religious beliefs.

Now those religions are just cool with it, even though the world is obviously flat?

If one of the religious groups could prove the world is flat (easily done), then they would basically be able to proclaim science as bull**** and God is almighty. Millions of people (and trillions of dollars) would come flocking back to the church.

Seems like a good idea for the church to me.
This thread is also about Satan. If flat earth ensures a God then perhaps there is a Deceiver as well. Or perhaps it is because powerful crime families & organizations want to keep people ignorant.
05-29-2017 , 07:24 PM
05-29-2017 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Do you understand the concepts of density and buoyancy?
What are the properties of density and buoyancy that make things rise and fall?
05-29-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
This thread is also about Satan. If flat earth ensures a God then perhaps there is a Deceiver as well. Or perhaps it is because powerful crime families & organizations want to keep people ignorant.
So who created the whole round world thing. These powerful crime families & organizations?
05-29-2017 , 07:41 PM
So the earth is Flat and the alien came from the edge of the south pole?am I correct?
05-29-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Did you miss the posts where I said we don't have our own map and that sizes can be skewered? That means that one like this is an approximation.


Components of the "simple model":

1) no maps made
2) sun is a energy transformer from another dimension, located "few thousand" from earth
3) firmament is concrete-esque substance, unknown distance above earth
4) Antarctica wall has "some stuff" beyond it, no one knows what despite rampant Antarctic tourism

Amazing how much more industrious round earthers are than flat earthers. Round earthers are faking flights daily, faking space program, faking scientific experiments, faking the aviation industry, faking Google Earth, faking GPS, faking globes and you lazy mouth breathers in FE haven't gotten to a ****ing MAP yet?
05-29-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Components of the "simple model":

1) no maps made
2) sun is a energy transformer from another dimension, located "few thousand" from earth
3) firmament is concrete-esque substance, unknown distance above earth
4) Antarctica wall has "some stuff" beyond it, no one knows what despite rampant Antarctic tourism

Amazing how much more industrious round earthers are than flat earthers. Round earthers are faking flights daily, faking space program, faking scientific experiments, faking the aviation industry, faking Google Earth, faking GPS, faking globes and you lazy mouth breathers in FE haven't gotten to a ****ing MAP yet?


What? Cartography is not only hard it's a made up art to convince the sheeple of a round earth on a flat map - even before most people believed the earth was round.
05-29-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Do you understand the concepts of density and buoyancy? Do you realize all of the atmospheric pressure around you? If you understand these concepts then you don't need an additional explanation for why things fall. It should be completely apparent even if you do believe in gravity that the primary action on an object will be from density and buoyancy. If there is something refined you'd like me to explain I'll share what I think.
I totally guarantee that I understand the concepts of density and buoyancy better than you do. I also make a similar promise about atmospheric pressure.

Some questions I guess since you would prefer to do this as a teeth pulling exercise rather than no. But first, let me just out of hand reject this "statement":

"It should be completely apparent even if you do believe in gravity that the primary action on an object will be from density and buoyancy."

Note that I am rejecting that statement because it's jibber jabber. It is literally meaningless. "Primary action" is not a term that has a definition that is either commonly or uncommonly accepted.

1. Why do objects all fall with the same acceleration in a vacuum regardless of mass or weight?

2. What causes atmospheric pressure?

3. Using buoyancy, explain why an object when released accelerates downward.

4. If buoyancy is the be all and end all you portray, why can I put a very dense object on a less dense table without the object falling through the table?

5. If I release a very durable weather balloon filled with an incredibly non-dense material, what happens to it?
05-30-2017 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by citanul
I totally guarantee that I understand the concepts of density and buoyancy better than you do. I also make a similar promise about atmospheric pressure.



Some questions I guess since you would prefer to do this as a teeth pulling exercise rather than no. But first, let me just out of hand reject this "statement":



"It should be completely apparent even if you do believe in gravity that the primary action on an object will be from density and buoyancy."



Note that I am rejecting that statement because it's jibber jabber. It is literally meaningless. "Primary action" is not a term that has a definition that is either commonly or uncommonly accepted.



1. Why do objects all fall with the same acceleration in a vacuum regardless of mass or weight?



2. What causes atmospheric pressure?



3. Using buoyancy, explain why an object when released accelerates downward.



4. If buoyancy is the be all and end all you portray, why can I put a very dense object on a less dense table without the object falling through the table?



5. If I release a very durable weather balloon filled with an incredibly non-dense material, what happens to it?


Your questions are too good. You will go on his ignore list now!
05-30-2017 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by amead
Once they scrape together enough money to take one of the many commercially available relatively low costs trips to the Great Ice Wall and the Unknowable Beyond, they can start working on the maps.
I went on of those trips last summer, if you go, watch out for the genetically modified penguins like someone said earlier itt, they pretty much run the show down there.

Also, there's no map if you've ever seen Pirates of the Caribbean the 3rd one, you navigate that way, maps as you know them would actually take you in the wrong direction.
05-30-2017 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
The sun is a transformer of energy from a higher dimension. Pretty simple to understand, hard to accept if you think it's something 93M miles away.
Simple me doesn't understand what you're proposing. What kind of energy is the sun transforming? Tell about this "higher dimension."
05-30-2017 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Did you miss the posts where I said we don't have our own map
This doesn't give you pause?

Is there any thing that you could do that would convince you the earth is round?

If you were to be able to hop on one of them transcon flights we've talked about so many times, would you trust your starting point, destination, and a simple hand-held compass enough to convince you that the pilot/airline/Illuminati wasn't routing you in a big ol' squiggle pattern and instead was pretty much going in a straight line?
05-30-2017 , 03:00 PM
We could take him to space and he'd probably be convinced it's cgi, worse the moon or mars.

      
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