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05-24-2017 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
That image doesn't take into account curvature and says the earth is flat from Uganda to Egypt.
How does it not "take into account curvature"?

How does it say the earth is flat from Uganda to Egypt? Pretty sure it shows quite differing elevations for Uganda and Egypt.

Are you familiar with the concept of "sea level"?

Do you know that gravity doesn't pull things north or south, but to the center of the earth? All rivers flow downhill, meaning toward an area of earth with low elevation because low elevation = closer to the center of the earth. For example Mount Everest is ~5.5 miles further from the center of the earth than is New Orleans, LA.
05-24-2017 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
That image doesn't take into account curvature and says the earth is flat from Uganda to Egypt.
No, the constant used for altitude readings is something called 'mean sea level', which obviously follows the curve of the globe. 'Up' means 'away from the centre of the Earth' and 'down' means 'towards the centre of the Earth.'

Ninja'd by Black Aces, I see. Not sure if he really is a lawyer or a US Navy fighter jock.

http://www.vfa41.navy.mil/
05-24-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by leo doc
You are correct that you refuse to acknowledge the Holocaust. You are also correct that Stalin and the Bolsheviks were likely responsible for more deaths than Hitler, although I think Hitler's systematic, efficient means of attempting to eradicate an entire religious minority are more atrocious than the others.
Efficient? lol. More Jews after WW2 than before. More Christians were killed in Russia than Jews in Germany. Just the facts.
05-24-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Completely flat places.
Danakil Ethiopia - 100,000 sq km
Salar de uyuni Bolivia, 10000 sq km
Kansas 400 mi straight across
Lake Baikail, bigger than all the great lakes combined.

Ignore the flatness, Earth = globe.
You just post idiotic claptrap and drivel. Kansas = flat! Except not:

At 4,039 feet above sea level, Mount Sunflower is the highest point in Kansas. It is located at the far west side of Kansas on the Harold Family Ranch in Wallace County. Mount Sunflower is 3,360 feet above the state's lowest point near Coffeyville, Kansas.

http://www.kansastravel.org/mountsunflower.htm
05-24-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
You just post idiotic claptrap and drivel. Kansas = flat! Except not:

At 4,039 feet above sea level, Mount Sunflower is the highest point in Kansas. It is located at the far west side of Kansas on the Harold Family Ranch in Wallace County. Mount Sunflower is 3,360 feet above the state's lowest point near Coffeyville, Kansas.

http://www.kansastravel.org/mountsunflower.htm
Except so.
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/...i3/kansas.html
05-24-2017 , 03:46 PM
OK, you're right a humorous article from improbable.com is a great source. So they just made up the elevation changes from Mount Sunflower to Coffeyville, I suppose.
05-24-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
More Christians were killed in Russia than Jews in Germany. Just the facts.
So by your count, how many Jews were killed in Germany?
05-24-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
See, you just cited Improbable.com. I'm back to being convinced you are a troll. Nobody is this ignorant.
05-24-2017 , 03:59 PM
So hilarious how he hand-waves away so many legit questions with a one word "perspective" answer, when "perspective" is the reason he has so many questions about how things work.

Bigot, you forgot to answer if I'm going uphill or downhill from Mount Everest to Tibet. What about Mount Everest to India?
05-24-2017 , 04:08 PM
Bigot still dodging solid questions he has no answer for?? Colour me shocked!

HD NASA videos , LOL if you trust them you sheep!!!

Random overweight, YouTube poster with apparently low intellect, it's basically 100% fact!
05-24-2017 , 04:11 PM
Lets pool all our jews into the next holocaust and get rich.
05-24-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pokeraz
See, you just cited Improbable.com. I'm back to being convinced you are a troll. Nobody is this ignorant.
http://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html
http://mentalfloss.com/article/58976...latter-pancake
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...ancake/284348/

I dont know anything about what improbable.com is. Here are other links. If this is all some sort of hoax reading, well they sure fooled me. If you think it's not true because it's from improbable.com, well...??
05-24-2017 , 04:59 PM
Did you read any of those articles? One basically said everywhere on earth would be considered flatter than a pancake. Unless said topography had a mountain 9908 meters tall which is taller than mt Everest thus whatever math they're using is poor or comparing anything about flatness to a pancake when it comes to earth is stupid.
05-24-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
**** you.
33 in Chaldean, btw.
05-24-2017 , 05:16 PM
Capone,

The prospect of large areas of the earth being flat as a pancake AND having curvature of globe at same time is too much for big or moo to handle without exploding their brains.
05-24-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Lets pool all our jews into the next holocaust and get rich.
I found this way too funny.
05-24-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Capone,

The prospect of large areas of the earth being flat as a pancake AND having curvature of globe at same time is too much for big or moo to handle without exploding their brains.
Now that's an explosion that couldn't be heard by somebody standing beside them at a funeral.
05-24-2017 , 09:30 PM
Would any of the people who're passionate about this subject and have a minimum of a bachelors degree in the sciences be willing to do some kind of a structured debate or interview via webcam (with video)? Does such a person exist?
05-24-2017 , 10:06 PM
How do you propose we get anybody from the FE side to participate with that onerous qualification?
05-24-2017 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
Would any of the people who're passionate about this subject and have a minimum of a bachelors degree in the sciences be willing to do some kind of a structured debate or interview via webcam (with video)? Does such a person exist?
Pretty sure that degree is a disqualification.
05-25-2017 , 03:07 AM
Fun fact: if the earth was shrunk to the size of a billiard/pool ball it would be smoother than one! Not quite as round though.. but still ROUND
05-25-2017 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
Would any of the people who're passionate about this subject and have a minimum of a bachelors degree in the sciences be willing to do some kind of a structured debate or interview via webcam (with video)? Does such a person exist?
You can't have a meaningful debate when you disagree on the facts.
05-25-2017 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
In the article you reference to make your point about the flatness of Kansas, you should know that the following is included:

"For example, the earth is slightly flattened at the poles due to the earth’s rotation, making its semi-major axis slightly longer than its semi-minor axis, giving a global f of 0.00335. For both Kansas and the pancake, we approximated the local ellipsoid with a second-order polynomial line fit to the cross-sections. These polynomial equations allowed us to estimate the local ellipsoid’s semi-major and semi-minor axes and thus we can calculate the flattening measure f. "

Rotation? Global?

So you're trying to prove Kansas is flat with a site that believes both that the earth is a globular AND rotates?

ETA: Pancakes aren't flat is all this site proves; not that Kansas is flat.

Last edited by Bullwinkle; 05-25-2017 at 10:07 AM. Reason: Pancakes being flat is incorrect is all this site proves
05-25-2017 , 11:35 AM
You can absolutely have a debate while disagreeing about facts. The debate would just become over how they came to accept certain facts. And it's a lot easier when you have someone keeping the debate on track so no one has the ability to change the subject when they don't have a satisfactory answer.

What about if we loosened the academic requirements? Any takers then?
05-25-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
You can absolutely have a debate while disagreeing about facts. The debate would just become over how they came to accept certain facts. And it's a lot easier when you have someone keeping the debate on track so no one has the ability to change the subject when they don't have a satisfactory answer.

What about if we loosened the academic requirements? Any takers then?
If one side is saying look, scientific processes measured this, and the other side is saying no, the vast Zionist conspiracy invented that... you really think you're going to have a meaningful debate?

      
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