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02-07-2019 , 12:04 PM
what exactly does "commercial intent" mean in regards to Facebook's Marketplace?

I have been getting some items to not be approved due to marketplace policies. I am not exactly sure what is prohibiting me from listing some of them. I don't know if it is the words I am using or the products I am selling. I can only trace some of them being prohibited due to commercial intent??? yaaaaaa I'm hustlin but the products have all been obtained through legal manners. And, I don't see the said products directly breaking any commerce policy rules. Examples include cologne and perfume that I purchased, as well as OTC supplements(things that supposedly help with focus/energy and another with endurance). Does anyone have any tips on how I could get these approved?

And for the record commercial intent on facebook is broken down as:

16. No Commercial Intent
Policy
Posts may not promote news, humor or other content that has no intention to buy or sell products or services.
Examples
News and awareness posts
Jokes and memes
Lost and found posts

I'm not doing any of that with my listings.
4. Unsafe Supplements
Policy
Posts may not promote the sale of unsafe supplements, as determined by Facebook in its sole discretion.
Examples
Anabolic steroids
Chitosan
Comfrey
Dehydroepiandrosterone
Ephedra
Human growth hormones

this is probably why my supps are being banned

Last edited by p2 dog, p2; 02-07-2019 at 12:21 PM.
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02-07-2019 , 12:35 PM
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Once self-driving cars are commonplace, this will no longer be an issue. We're not that far away.

That's a time that I'm very much looking forward to. It's going to result in a lot of positive changes. Some of the ones I'm excited about:

- far, far, far fewer accidents. No more impaired driving, whether from alcohol, drugs, fatigue, inattention, etc. No more distracted driving from conversations, electronic device usage, eating, rubbernecking, etc. Far better reaction time and analysis of unexpected events like blowouts, hydroplaning, other vehicle movements, etc. If people understood just how many fewer accidents there are going to be, there would be a far greater push for adoption of the technology. I'd be surprised if we had even 2% as many accidents as we do now once all cars are self-driving. Right now USA#1 averages 6 million car accidents per year with about 37,000 car accident fatalities per year.

- the side effects associated with fewer accidents. Less grief. Less suffering. Fewer medical expenses. Significantly lower insurance rates. Less economic hardship, both expected and unexpected.

- fewer vehicles on the road due to automated ride services. Less traffic as a result. Less pollution as a result.

- more economic freedom as a result of increased commuting options and increased leisure travel options. The highway systems will gain the ability to function almost like train tracks for mass commuting and travel. Especially with computer controlled shared ride systems.

- less parking congestion and related expenses. No need to park at work, just send your car home or to an inexpensive nearby lot instead of trying to park downtown.

- increased quality of life and economic activity from involuntary shut-ins like olds and people with medical conditions that prevent them from driving.

lots of other reasons as well
The black market for organs will 'spolde as well once there are no more donors. Cha-ching!

ETA: I have no financial stake in the greater human organ trade, I just have been saving my own as a nest egg.
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02-07-2019 , 12:48 PM
It makes me legitimately nauseous to hear stories of teaching a three-year-old a lesson through physical violence. Good lord. Maybe this is because I'm in the thick of it right now, with my own kid that age. Of course you need to follow through on threats. But you've made a bad threat when it amounts to, "Stop that or I'm going to hit you."

I get that it was a different time, etc. If these stories are lumped in with kids bouncing around the car untethered and moms hot boxing the car with cigarettes, fine. Let's all be glad those days are gone.
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02-07-2019 , 01:28 PM
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this is probably why my supps are being banned
That was quite a post.
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02-07-2019 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Now Im fired up! What is a realistic timeline?
Where it is warm? Very soon.

Where there's heaps of white snow everwhere? A long way away.
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02-07-2019 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cassette
It makes me legitimately nauseous to hear stories of teaching a three-year-old a lesson through physical violence. Good lord. Maybe this is because I'm in the thick of it right now, with my own kid that age. Of course you need to follow through on threats. But you've made a bad threat when it amounts to, "Stop that or I'm going to hit you."

I get that it was a different time, etc. If these stories are lumped in with kids bouncing around the car untethered and moms hot boxing the car with cigarettes, fine. Let's all be glad those days are gone.

Perhaps you mistake my position. If I had a three-year old no in that exact same situation, I’d do now exactly what I did then.
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02-07-2019 , 03:38 PM
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Perhaps you mistake my position. If I had a three-year old no in that exact same situation, I’d do now exactly what I did then.
Well...I'm not really sure what to say. "Try hitting her" is pretty gross parenting advice.
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02-07-2019 , 03:50 PM
It's pretty effective parenting advice. I applaud you, Mr Treesong.
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02-07-2019 , 04:01 PM
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Where it is warm? Very soon.

Where there's heaps of white snow everwhere? A long way away.
Although this is somewhat true and depends on the definition, it will take quite some time before self driving cars will be common place anywhere tbh. Im not even sure the oldies ITT will live to be a part of it (sorry guys).
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02-07-2019 , 04:08 PM
Nevermind that every reputable piece of research in the last bazillion years has concluded that spanking/hitting is a net harmful effect on the child and can teach them aggression

I was beaten severely as a kid and I can’t even imagine laying a finger on any kid I had no matter the situation.
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02-07-2019 , 04:21 PM
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Well...I'm not really sure what to say. "Try hitting her" is pretty gross parenting advice.

My position is nowhere near that simple and I’ve never advocated corporal punishment used as a first resort or as a commonplace matter. But used sparingly and carefully, it is a perfectly appropriate and valid parenting tactic — particularly when getting them to understand the proper limits of their behavior.

My evidence is purely anecdotal. Both of my children are mature, respectful, self-motivating and kind, and I have close relationships with both of them. Both of them — now 16 and 19 — would entirely agree that each of their circumstances warranted a spanking. As young adults, both of them are both entitled to and capable of arguing with me on any issue, as they often do.

A hard rule against spanking is foolish and bound to ideology rather than reality IMO.
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02-07-2019 , 04:22 PM
I wonder if you can teach an old parent new tricks. 🤔
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02-07-2019 , 04:55 PM
Anything is possible. I do not believe the research is nearly as unequivocal as j believes.

Does spanking a 22-year old that’s NOT my daughter count?
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02-07-2019 , 04:59 PM
I don't think I've ever actually heard HT give bad advice before. His advice on parenting is no exception.


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Does spanking a 22-year old that’s NOT my daughter count?
As a good time? Yes.
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02-07-2019 , 04:59 PM
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Does spanking a 22-year old that’s NOT my daughter count?
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I applaud you, Mr Treesong.
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02-07-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Nevermind that every reputable piece of research in the last bazillion years has concluded that spanking/hitting is a net harmful effect on the child and can teach them aggression

I was beaten severely as a kid and I can’t even imagine laying a finger on any kid I had no matter the situation.
Sorry my dude. The lies I was told as a child did not benefit my development, but if there were beatings included I can't fathom the direction my repression would have gone.
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02-07-2019 , 05:06 PM
Sorry guys, but you're telling on yourselves. Out of respect to oT, I simply Prince-rolled HT earlier, but you're making it awful tempting to engage your wrongness.
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02-07-2019 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Anything is possible. I do not believe the research is nearly as unequivocal as j believes.

Does spanking a 22-year old that’s NOT my daughter count?


It really is. All you sent me was research from a group of dubious background - i’d be happy to eat my words though
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02-07-2019 , 05:14 PM
You can surely appreciate the fact that someone who was severely beaten as a child might not be the best judge of what constitutes good parenting though.
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02-07-2019 , 05:20 PM
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It really is. All you sent me was research from a group of dubious background - i’d be happy to eat my words though


Just sent you a Sci Am piece that suggests a fair degree of doubt. “... all the associations disappear with the use of careful statistical controls...”

The piece concludes that spanking may well be negative but is clearly not unequivocal about it.
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02-07-2019 , 05:21 PM
Three kids here.

Kids one and three never really needed to be spanked. Kid two needed her will broken. She still struggles with a temper at times, but it's 20x better than her mother (she's my anecdotal evidence for nature over nurture - she's her mother's clone even though I raised her solely).

Couldn't be more proud of her, and it was 1000% necessary. Every spanking incorporated at least a 20-40 minute talk along with immediate affection. She had to be spanked 3-10 times a week through age seven or eight I'd guess. She completely respects me now, but still sees red at times and we need to deescalate (she's 15 and an honors student and plus athlete).

Her main memory is Dad's prolonged conversations.
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02-07-2019 , 05:25 PM
Certain children you need to reinforce your authority repeatedly. Ultimately might makes right, but you need to be a philosopher king to pull it off.

If you want to avoid that, the key is to be careful about who you have children with. (Duh but teenage Dodger would've liked just a wee bit more guidance on that one.)
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02-07-2019 , 05:40 PM
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Three kids here.

Kids one and three never really needed to be spanked. Kid two needed her will broken. She still struggles with a temper at times, but it's 20x better than her mother (she's my anecdotal evidence for nature over nurture - she's her mother's clone even though I raised her solely).

Couldn't be more proud of her, and it was 1000% necessary. Every spanking incorporated at least a 20-40 minute talk along with immediate affection. She had to be spanked 3-10 times a week through age seven or eight I'd guess. She completely respects me now, but still sees red at times and we need to deescalate (she's 15 and an honors student and plus athlete).

Her main memory is Dad's prolonged conversations.
Yikes. 3-10 times a week? What do you think would have happened if you just did the 20 minute conversations rather than regularly beat a 5 year old girl?
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02-07-2019 , 05:42 PM
I would've been condoning blatant disrespect. Every single time it was a last resort that she would test my resolve on. I'd end up crying a good chunk of the time.

Her grandparents ended up sending her mother off to a ranch for troubled kids because she was so obstreperous.
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02-07-2019 , 05:47 PM
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I would've been condoning blatant disrespect. Every single time it was a last resort that she would test my resolve on.

Her grandparents parents ended up sending her mother off to a ranch for troubled kids because she was so obstreperous.
You're not a good parent.


Thank **** they are female so they'll be strippers, rather than some dude sticking me up at the ATM.
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