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06-30-2016 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
No. The harm from an ESG not properly used would be much higher than an ESA not properly harnessed.

Our society has ruled that ESGs are not allowed. I agree with that decision.
No it wouldn't. Animals are capable of killing humans just as guns are.
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06-30-2016 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Then they can store it in the hold and pick it up on landing.
That defeats the purpose of an ESA. You need the ESA with you to provide the support. It is physical and communication that provides comfort. Why people have dogs. And a tarantula perhaps.
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06-30-2016 , 01:52 PM
golfnutt - Curious what you use for your test to determine whether an object is suitable for "emotional support" protections.

Seems like you're advocating that any object that provides emotional support for someone inflicted with psychological illness should be afforded the protection of being allowed anywhere that person could reasonably expect to be, unless it [INSERT DISQUALIFIER HERE].

Would that be unless it poses a danger to another individual? You've conceded that certain objects are not suitable to be used for emotional support (guns, presumably other weapons like bombs, etc.), so I'm interested in what your legal test would be here that would eliminate ambiguity.
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06-30-2016 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Then they can store it in the hold and pick it up on landing.
Agree. All ESAs should be placed in the hold.
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06-30-2016 , 02:06 PM
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ESG (emotional support gun)
This is going to make a fine facebook post one day.
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06-30-2016 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
Tyler,

I'm a huge ESM-fan. It would help you too!

People should accomodate to my need of masturbation next to them in the plane, and I even got an official paper from an internet scammer, I mean, psychiatrist to proof it. If you run into a spider in a plane I'd advise you to jack it.

Plus side to it is that people who hate the concept of ESA's can't complain about allergies. You're apalled by me jacking it in front of you? Sorry but those are just feelings: and unlike mental illnesses and physical sicknesses, those should be discarded when battling my anxiety. BAZINGA!

ME ME ME ME ME ME

hilarious post, but disgusting because its 100% true. catering to the scum and mentally ill. catering to everyones "wants". its just sick.
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06-30-2016 , 02:51 PM
Reading about dog whistles but I can't find any stories involving airplanes.
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06-30-2016 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by amead
golfnutt - Curious what you use for your test to determine whether an object is suitable for "emotional support" protections.

Seems like you're advocating that any object that provides emotional support for someone inflicted with psychological illness should be afforded the protection of being allowed anywhere that person could reasonably expect to be, unless it [INSERT DISQUALIFIER HERE].

Would that be unless it poses a danger to another individual? You've conceded that certain objects are not suitable to be used for emotional support (guns, presumably other weapons like bombs, etc.), so I'm interested in what your legal test would be here that would eliminate ambiguity.
I go along with society's rules and laws. Ambiguity needs to be cleared up by the government. Otherwise, as it appears in this thread, people may resort to violence or other unorthodox methods.
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06-30-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
That defeats the purpose of an ESA. You need the ESA with you to provide the support. It is physical and communication that provides comfort. Why people have dogs. And a tarantula perhaps.
No, you get to keep your ESA all through the busy airport, right up to the moment when you board the plane - some accomodation can be made here. For the flight, you'll just have to suck it up until landing along with everyone else who hates flying, myself included.

Having a 'condition' doesn't entitle you to live an anxiety-free life. Reasonable accomodations can be made, but not such that they impact on other paying customers of the airline.
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06-30-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
hilarious post, but disgusting because its 100% true. catering to the scum and mentally ill. catering to everyones "wants". its just sick.
Catering? More like accommodating.

Equating scum and mentally ill isn't very sporting. The mentally ill you speak of are part of our society.
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06-30-2016 , 03:02 PM
Gin,

I don't have an ESA or any sort of flying anxiety but I would think an ESA would be most valuable during the flight.
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06-30-2016 , 03:08 PM
Golfnutt,

He was sarcastic. Rightfully so may I add.

My point that there are more ludicrous solutions to anxiety that are not deemed okay because they are inconveniencing and bothering others - unlike a ****ing turkey next to you ofcourse - , is a dumb one.

Last edited by GMLAW; 06-30-2016 at 03:15 PM.
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06-30-2016 , 03:20 PM
GMLAW, I'm going to think on your advice some, although I'm not so sure it will work, lol. One time, I freaked out because they gave me peas with my dinner, which is my other phobia, but that's not near as bad as spiders.
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06-30-2016 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Catering? More like accommodating.

Equating scum and mentally ill isn't very sporting. The mentally ill you speak of are part of our society.
Its most certainly catering to the insane. they are backed up legally now unfortunately. Fear. Fear of millions of dollars in lawsuits.

Not that long ago they would be been told GTFO like anyone with any decency or respect for the HUNDREDS of people flying with you.

I liken them to scum because they know what they are doing is awful, they should feel awful, and some of them even do. You need the pet every ****ing second? Smokers probably want a dart too after 4-6 hours on the plane but they CANT. They feel anxiety, stress, its probably hell.

NO. SORRY. YOU CAN'T. GTFO. YOU ARE BARRED FROM ENTRY.

These are words that need to be implemented instead of catering to literal human garbage, these "people" have 0% respect socially for others. So WHY would we cater to their "needs and "wants"?
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06-30-2016 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
It has nothing to do with the training. That is why an ESA requires zero training and the person is responsible for all actions.

There really is no limit anymore. Miniature horses and pigs were the trailblazers of the non-dog/cat traditional acceptance alliance.

A lot of people would be much more concerned over a pitbull than a turkey sitting next to them on a plane.
I would seriously lose my **** if I had to sit next to a turkey on a plane. I'd be in the news.
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06-30-2016 , 04:56 PM
I could sit next to a turkey, a spider or a pea without ending up on the news.
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06-30-2016 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I would seriously lose my **** if I had to sit next to a turkey on a plane. I'd be in the news.
I think you just write that.

In actuality, you would ask the steward/ess to move you. I don't think you would commit a felony just because you were sitting next to a turkey. Maybe you could talk to the person and find out more information. Most people with ESAs are willing to communicate. In fact, that is what the holders of ESAs need. Emotional support. Violent acts towards people with emotional problems won't solve anything. And you being jailed, probable in federal prison, for commmiting a felony in front of multiple witnesses is not a wise move.
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06-30-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
Its most certainly catering to the insane. they are backed up legally now unfortunately. Fear. Fear of millions of dollars in lawsuits.

Not that long ago they would be been told GTFO like anyone with any decency or respect for the HUNDREDS of people flying with you.
Just like African-American people were told to GTFO of establishments. There is a turning point occurring with mental illnesses and ESAs. It used to be a big deal to see a dog or cat on an airplane. Now people just shrug. A turkey or non-traditional animal represents less than 1% of ESAs.
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06-30-2016 , 06:52 PM
Well the nut part of your name is accurate
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06-30-2016 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I could sit next to a turkey, a spider or a pea without ending up on the news.
To my credit, all I did was holler once, "What are these things on my plate?" It was the eighty year old, grey haired thug sitting next to me who started telling to eat them, over and over. ("They're good for you!") There is a cartel of grannies assigned to force those gross things down people's throats against their will.
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06-30-2016 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Well the nut part of your name is accurate
more like nut low
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06-30-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
Golfnutt,

He was sarcastic. Rightfully so may I add.

My point that there are more ludicrous solutions to anxiety that are not deemed okay because they are inconveniencing and bothering others - unlike a ****ing turkey next to you ofcourse - , is a dumb one.
Scores of people have severe flying anxiety.

Is it really that big of a deal to sit next to a turkey? Amazing that people sat next to cigarette smokers for 60 years. 1000x worse.
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06-30-2016 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Scores of people have severe flying anxiety.

Is it really that big of a deal to sit next to a turkey? Amazing that people sat next to cigarette smokers for 60 years. 1000x worse.
Is it that big a deal to drive if you have to take a live turkey with you to survive society? Put that sumbitch next to me on a plane the day before Thanksgiving and see if he doesn't disappear at baggage claim.
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06-30-2016 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Is it that big a deal to drive if you have to take a live turkey with you to survive society? Put that sumbitch next to me on a plane the day before Thanksgiving and see if he doesn't disappear at baggage claim.
Driving coast to coast is five days vs. five hours on a plane. It isn't about survival. It is about comfort and support.
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06-30-2016 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Driving coast to coast is five days vs. five hours on a plane. It isn't about survival. It is about comfort and support.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."--Arthur Carlson aka The Big Guy
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