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06-02-2016 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
That's just absurd. I don't know why but this enfuriates me. How inconsiderate and narcissistic does one have to be to take a ****ing turkey in a plane.
And other people would make the argument of how insensitive can you be to a woman who just lost her husband to cancer. It is a time of grieving and if a turkey makes her feel better, then we should respect her wishes.

As well as the discriminatory attitude that you are seemingly ok with cats and dogs, but bringing a turkey on a plane has gone too far. They are all animals and as long as they don't hurt another passenger, appropriate accommodations are required by law.

Check 14CFR Part 382. Air Carrier Access Act. Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Disability in Air Travel.
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06-02-2016 , 06:32 PM
Maybe you're new to the thread. I'm not okay with dogs. I'm not okay with cats.

Your reaction is exactly what pisses me off. The feeling that every wish should be accomodated to because the world revolves around oneself.

She lost her husband, which is very sad. But as sad as it is, it doesn't mean everybody else should stick up with your idiotic demands, e.g. having a ****ing turkey in the plane.

She isn't disabled. She is grieving. Which, as sad as it is, isn't uncommon.

The world doesn't revolve around you and your dumb demands. If you need a turkey, dog, cat, chameleon, platypus or swine to travel, maybe have enough decency to not bother other people with your problem.

FWIW if a blind person with a dog would sit next to me on the plane, I'd also don't like it. Because I'm allergic. Which I battle by furiously masturbating throughout the flight, porn on laptop blasting through the plane. Which makes me feel a lot better, so respect me okay?

No. It's common decency not to bother another person.

Last edited by GMLAW; 06-02-2016 at 06:34 PM. Reason: Also RANCH should be free on DOMESTIC flights.
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06-02-2016 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
Maybe you're new to the thread. I'm not okay with dogs. I'm not okay with cats.

Your reaction is exactly what pisses me off. The feeling that every wish should be accomodated to because the world revolves around oneself.

She lost her husband, which is very sad. But as sad as it is, it doesn't mean everybody else should stick up with your idiotic demands, e.g. having a ****ing turkey in the plane.

She isn't disabled. She is grieving. Which, as sad as it is, isn't uncommon.

The world doesn't revolve around you and your dumb demands. If you need a turkey, dog, cat, chameleon, platypus or swine to travel, maybe have enough decency to not bother other people with your problem.

FWIW if a blind person with a dog would sit next to me on the plane, I'd also don't like it. Because I'm allergic. Which I battle by furiously masturbating throughout the flight, porn on laptop blasting through the plane. Which makes me feel a lot better, so respect me okay?

No. It's common decency not to bother another person.
New to the thread? Au contraire. I started this thread.

You seem that you don't equate mental illness on the same level as physical illness. Just because a mental disease does not manifest itself in the same manner, it does not mean it is not as debilitating.

It appears our society of rules and laws has determined that a turkey is an appropriate accommodation. Perhaps you should be riding in your own car or personal plane so you will not have to deal with any of the approved emotional support animals bothering you.
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06-02-2016 , 07:05 PM
http://alumni.berkeley.edu/californi...tional-support

Pet Therapy: Students Increasingly Bringing “Emotional Support” Animals to College

***Americans have not only embraced the Shultz dictum that happiness is a warm puppy: They’re applying it to warm rabbits, kangaroo rats, pot-bellied pigs, cockatiels and ferrets. And for that matter, to decidedly tepid ball pythons, Cuban rock iguanas and Chilean rose hair tarantulas.***

God Bless America.
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06-02-2016 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
And other people would make the argument of how insensitive can you be to a woman who just lost her husband to cancer. It is a time of grieving and if a turkey makes her feel better, then we should respect her wishes.
i find this view to be lunatic. On the other hand, I don't think the federal government has any business regulating what ESAs may or may not come on board commercial aircraft. I'd leave that to each carrier. Treesong airlines would permit small cats, small dogs, and perhaps small weasels, but the latter only flying in or out of SFO.
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06-02-2016 , 07:18 PM
Student demands for mental health services has risen 37 per cent in the last six years? What the hell are we doing as a society to cause this?
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06-02-2016 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
i find this view to be lunatic. On the other hand, I don't think the federal government has any business regulating what ESAs may or may not come on board commercial aircraft. I'd leave that to each carrier.
It was up to each carrier. But in this last year, the majority have opened up to all animals for fear of discriminatory lawsuits.

Below is American Airlines current policy:


Traveling with a service animal

Service animals are welcome on all flights. There are no additional charges for service animals traveling in the cabin.

To travel with an emotional support or psychiatric service animal, you’ll need to contact American Reservations at least 48 hours before your flight and submit the required documentation.

Contact American Reservations

Download required documentation

Cabin rules

Animal must fit on your lap, at your feet or under your seat

Animals must be clean, well behaved and under your control at all times

If the animal is too large, it will need to be checked and travel in a kennel

Seating options

For security reasons, service animals can’t block any aisle

You can’t sit in an exit row when traveling with service animals

If you’d like seating, contact us before your flight

Requirements

To show that an animal is a service animal, you must provide (at least one of the following):

Animal ID card

Harness or tags

Credible verbal assurance
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06-02-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Student demands for mental health services has risen 37 per cent in the last six years? What the hell are we doing as a society to cause this?
It could be that there was the same level of mental illness but there was a fear of discussing it openly.

Or also that our society has gotten "crazier" and that we have a significant increase in people needing mental assistance resources.
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06-02-2016 , 07:27 PM
Bunch of pampered whiny divas in college I bet, everybody violating their safe spaces and triggering their sorry asses. Colleges should give them all emotional support donkeys once their parents' check clears.
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06-02-2016 , 07:27 PM
Our society has certainly gotten more narcissistic.
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06-02-2016 , 07:28 PM
Or it could be that we tell our kids that the world is a kind and pleasant place and we'll never be hurt or scared, at least not without a trigger warning.
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06-02-2016 , 07:34 PM
"Content warning," please, out of respect for anyone who's been harmed by a gun.
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06-02-2016 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Bunch of pampered whiny divas in college I bet, everybody violating their safe spaces and triggering their sorry asses. Colleges should give them all emotional support donkeys once their parents' check clears.
Or that these kids are super stressed, graduating with tons of student debt, and uncertain job/career prospects.
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06-02-2016 , 07:49 PM
Children are a lot more stressed nowadays imo. The homework load is ridiculous. It's pretty much all my 16yo does.
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06-02-2016 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
New to the thread? Au contraire. I started this thread.

You seem that you don't equate mental illness on the same level as physical illness. Just because a mental disease does not manifest itself in the same manner, it does not mean it is not as debilitating.

It appears our society of rules and laws has determined that a turkey is an appropriate accommodation. Perhaps you should be riding in your own car or personal plane so you will not have to deal with any of the approved emotional support animals bothering you.
Mental Illness is becoming the new racist crutch.

Jesus Christ people are so ****ing pathetic.
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06-02-2016 , 07:57 PM
If I did have to sit next to a turkey I would pray that the inflight meal had a turkey (or at least chicken) option so I could sneakily feed pieces to it. THAT'S my way of getting back for the ridiculousness surrounding a large bird on a plane. How does your brother taste, turkey?
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06-02-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
If I did have to sit next to a turkey I would pray that the inflight meal had a turkey (or at least chicken) option so I could sneakily feed pieces to it. THAT'S my way of getting back for the ridiculousness surrounding a large bird on a plane. How does your brother taste, turkey?
Why such outrage over a turkey?

Would you terrorize a dog or cat in the same manner?
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06-02-2016 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Why such outrage over a turkey?

Would you terrorize a dog or cat in the same manner?
Civilized people eat turkey. They don't eat dog or cat. A turkey is not a pet.

All life is sacred blah blah blah.
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06-02-2016 , 10:02 PM
It's a dog eat dog world.
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06-02-2016 , 10:06 PM
It's the jive turkeys I really hate sitting next to.
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06-02-2016 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by I_AM_EVIL
Civilized people eat turkey. They don't eat dog or cat. A turkey is not a pet.

All life is sacred blah blah blah.
Then a snake is ok. Civilized people don't eat snakes.

Pigs are smarter than dogs and cats. Civilized people eat pigs.

Once you enter the real of emotional support animals, all that should matter is your personal safety. The type of ESA is irrelevant. And the sole purpose is to provide emotional support to the owner. If a turkey provides the optimal support to the owner, then so be it.
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06-02-2016 , 11:16 PM
At the public college where I work, there have been two incidents this year alone where two students' "emotional support animals" attacked each other. In both cases, campus police and local cops had to be involved. Your tax dollars at work.
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06-02-2016 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Then a snake is ok. Civilized people don't eat snakes.

Pigs are smarter than dogs and cats. Civilized people eat pigs.

Once you enter the real of emotional support animals, all that should matter is your personal safety. The type of ESA is irrelevant. And the sole purpose is to provide emotional support to the owner. If a turkey provides the optimal support to the owner, then so be it.
Civilized people eat snakes. I've had rattle snake plenty of times.
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06-03-2016 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
And this person was bringing her dead husband's ashes to spread around SF.

I think this is one time a car ride would certainly have been in order.
Some of her husbands ashes, the report said.

No doubt this is the first flight of many as the ashes are spread over all 50 states.
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06-03-2016 , 12:39 AM
Why did OZZY bite the head off a service bat?

Spoiler:
Don't ask me, I don't know
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