talking about Ecigs, i just got me a personal vaporizer which is in the same family as the ecigs. They are so good!

What model did you get? Does it have rechargeable batteries? Please read about Rechargable Batteries if you're not familiar with safety aspects, charging, the counterfeit problem, etc.

IMO it's insane for these suppliers to send out PV's with zero instructions or warnings.

Lithium batteries can and have exploded. I'm not saying they can't be used safely. I'm strongly recommending that everyone educate themselves about their specific device, use ONLY the batteries recommended by the manufacturer, and be aware of the quality of the charger that you use.

For example, I've replaced my Trustfire chargers that came with my kit with Xtar chargers because testing shows the Xtar has a superior design.

Do not leave batteries charging unattended.

I don't do it all the time, but it's actually a good idea to check batteries after charging with a volt meter. Also, when you replace your battery, fire it the first time pointed away from your face.

I was on about when the carto is worn out and needs replacing. I refilled these babies 10 times a day until I got my tank system.

Or use a provari that will soak up any internal explosion no problem

that post was scaring the crap out of me until: "Statistically, 6 volt+ APV users are more likely to experience an incident, and are the only group experiencing explosive incidents."

still need to change my battery charging habits though. i've just left this thing on carpet charging for days before. whoops.

When I first heard about this, I thought surely there were warning signs that the user ignored, like the unit getting really hot? Apparently not true. It can happen really quickly.

Do get your batteries off the charger as soon as the light turns green. Overcharging is one of the main causes of battery failure. That's why I chose to buy better chargers.

You want to test that out for us, because I have a Provari, and I'm not willing to be the guinea pig.

I want to clarify that I think the Provari is one of the very top models available. It has a number of built in safety features. It's easily the best PV that I own. Still, I'd never volunteer to hold anything while a battery failure occurs.

The industry is woefully lacking in instruction and documentation. It's out there, but the user almost has to actively seek it out to be informed.

Batteries Explode: Read this for information on proper safety procedures. (Same link as posted above.)

Don't freak out. Just be informed.

Sorry, but it would be negligent for me to not make sure that others know the risks.

obv don't be ******ed with batteries is sensible advice. but lithium ion batteries are all over the place, laptops which people often run inches from very sensitive area of the body, mobile phones held near the face for some people often as much as an ecig.

although scary ecig forum link just made me "test" the vent holes on my lavatube by jamming a set of pliers through the vent holes, lol took some force to snap that plastic! I feel a little safer now after popping it back in place, the base is still kinda locked in but less force required to remove it.

Very true. Cell phones and laptops use the same batteries. They can explode too. None of us will stop using them, right? Between my husband and I we have seven (?) different tube mods that use lithium batteries.

From what's been posted, the guy in Colorado who had an ecig blow up on him was away from home, didn't have a way to charge his batteries, walked into a Radio Shack and bought non rechargeable batteries and used them in a stacked mod.

Why? The simple answer is that he didn't know. A friend had bought him the ecig. His friend didn't know anything about battery safety. So neither of them had the information. I just want to make sure that people know that battery safety is important.

What's the best "mizer" to use with something like bobas bounty? Its super thick stuff. I have a tank and I have clearomizers. I can prolly acquire an atomizer.

Appropriate time as any:



http://xkcd.com/651/

I haven't read all the replies here.....so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet.

I've been a pretty heavy smoker for many years. Would like to quit. When I heard about E-cigs.....I bought a kit. I've tried them with the cartridges with the high nicotine content & have also tried with pouring the liquid nicotine in by hand.

They don't cut it for me. I guess that my blood/brain barrier is also addicted to all the other junk that go into cigs (I'm not sure how many there are, but I think I read there are about 208 of them once).

The chemists for the big cigarette companies are no dummies when it comes to following the CEO's orders to make them addictive as hell.

Remember when "60 Minutes" had interviewed a chemist that left one of the big Cig Firms & he explained what they did there. But "60 Minutes", for the 1st time in their history, got scared to broadcast the segment as it was done by Mike Wallace & produced by Lowell Bergman - because the Cig company threatened to sue.

So an edited version was shown. As I'm sure a lot of folks probably know - this story was made into a very good movie called "The Insider" with Russell Crowe & Al Pacino & a very good cast.

I believe Bergman quit "60 Minutes" over this & now works for PBS.

Bottom line for me - they haven't allowed me to quit smoking - & I'm sure that some folks end up using both - using the E-cig where real ones are forbidden. So I don't think these are a cure all - although I'm sure many would say it is just a lack of willpower.

Dex, what kit did you buy? I'd expect/hope there is a model out there that will work better - I know for sure the first models I bough were nowhere near the performance of current setup of "Lavatube"

I'll echo what Dave said. All "kits" are not created equal, not even close. I'd be willing to bet that your kit falls on the weaker end of the spectrum. What brand is it/what website did you get it from?

If you wanted to give it another shot, we can recommend some top notch equipment and juice to give you a fair idea of what vaping is at it's best. I'm sure we can get you set up with top of the line juice and gear for less than $150.

Edit: Also going to watch "The Insider". Never heard of it before, sounds interesting.

Edit 2: Try to stick with it, too. It took my gf 6 months to switch completely off of cigarettes. I think she was more addicted to the cigarette's alkaloids and added chemicals than I was, and e-cigs only give you the nicotine.

Hey Dex, sorry your not having the luck a lot of us have had. let us know more about your set up.

the first disposable e cigs I bought were in no way enjoyable, but did get me started on the right track. the first kit I bought had 180mah battery's and the charge would go down very quickly, then they wouldn't work all that well. I also had crappy pre filled cart's. Things got way better when I bought juice and started refilling the carts with a flavor I liked.

per suggestions on this forum I got the Vtube from apollo, and then I really started to enjoy the e cig a lot more. now I'm using a Vtube with boge style cartomizers, and I couldn't be happier. (I also tried the tank cartomizer, and the clearomizers they have, save your money they suck imo)

Entertainme,

Can you recommend a reputable place to get good batteries for a mini lavatube? the ones that came with mine have a generic blue shrink wrap with no writing/label at all.

SuperT

RTD Vapor

Wonderlite

I've purchased from Super T, and heard nothing but good things about RTD Vapor and Wonderlite, (who sells by PM and paypal in the ECF thread, but is acknowledged by AW to distribute their products.)

I do use the one generic wrap that came with my Vtube kit. I just keep a close eye on it.

Edit: That reminds me, I need to order a new charger from Super T for a GLV I picked up in the classifieds:



I've never owned a feeder and I haven't had a chance to do a thing with it yet.

It's also a stacked batteries mod which I've stayed away from until now.

I just reoredered from ecigexpress because they had 10 ml bottles as low as $2.99 and I liked some of the flavors on sale and wanted to stock up while the price was that low.

i was just looking at the MtbakerVapor site again and I see that they do offer a choice of PG/VG ratios and more than 50 flavors. they sell a 15 ml bottle for $4.99

Agreed, those are two of the best reviewers out there. Where'd you get your Kick? It's really hard to find them in stock. I'm thinking of getting a Puersmoker Legacy but only want one with a Kick. I have a Provari (it's as awesome as people say, basically perfect) but would like having a variable wattage device to back it up as well as having the different size options of the Legacy. I have had basically all of Puresmoker's previous mods so I have a lot of confidence in their work so I might as well get the newest one.

I dont have a kick. I was stating mine COULD go vv.....

so do e-cigs just feed u nicotine, without having to burn through the other products found in cigarettes, making them safer?

is the only risk dependence/addiction when starting from zero?

First answer is a yes (also doesn't harm those around you).

As far as I am aware no risks have been brought to light as yet but they are treated as risky due to minimal proper medical tests done.

I am coming upto my 1 year off the cigarettes in June and would recommend it to anyone.

You will still have the nicotine addiction, but you can easily decrease the nicotine concentration without reducing how much you vape

For the vast majority of people the nicotine will satisfy your cravings. Many people are not satisfied because they have a strong addiction to the akaloids in tobacco, known as WTA'. There are at least two suppliers which offer ejuice that contains WTA. The juice costs about twice as much as nicotine juices without it. One of them is at http://www.aromaejuice.com/
There is another start up company but apparently a lot of people have a hard time ordering from them with explorer