Hi all, first off I'm loving vaping, I started off with Njoy Kings and then the blu disposables and now i think I'm ready to start with a tank based system. Just looking for some advice, I want something that uses an 18650 so from reading this thread I am liking the itaste svd and the iclear 30. That sound good?

just got my kit today. the iclear 30 works fine on the itaste with an 18650. I'm vaping peanut butter cookie at 6.5 watts. The draw is tighter than the kanger protank (although there is a fix for the protank that I haven't tried yet) and much easier/less sloppy to fill. it has a lot more wick ropes than other top feeder tanks i've tried and being able to tilt the tip gives you options on how you tilt the tank to get better wicking when the eliquid level is low.

posted about my first rebuildable atty purchase a week or two ago, an AGA-T 2. I popped my first (working) coil after about 7 days by running it dry, took 3 more efforts to make a good one and 2nd working coil is now been in use for a week. It is one of the best £20 I spent on ecig kit so far!

I'm still using only original parts that came in the kit. It's a bit fiddly (this one is supposed to be very easy, but it's still really small). The Stainless steel mesh wick is amazing. I am tempted to try some "SS rope" next in it.

I just had my first experiece with a RBA this week with an atty i got from fasttech for about $6 and some wicks pre-wrapped with coil. it works ok but not as well as the narrow attys i usually buy.

the ones i got just slide together and can leak a little. i think i need one that screws the barrel down on the base to alleve that.

sup doods.

so im quitting cigarettes in a few days and looking to make my first e-cig purchase. im finally starting to figure out what most of the parts do. it's def been information overload at first but i'm getting the hang of it. the OP was super helpful.

anyway, i'm looking for some suggestions as i plan on buying a starter kit tonight. i'm not interested in a mini. from what i understand, the battery has low life in general and the quality of the vape hit is worse than that of an eGo or an APV.

i'm looking to get an eGo no bigger than a medium sized cigar. anything smaller is fine as long as battery duration is sufficient. i'll be taking it around with me a lot, using it during my poker sessions at the cardroom.

cost is not an issue. i would rather spend more on a quality starter kit than getting something low quality for the sake of saving money.

thanks guys!

can't really go wrong with a couple ego twists and a few mini vivi clearomizers. those would be about the size you're looking for.

i'd use vapor kings and order the following:

1 1100 mah ego twist
1 750 mah ego twist
3 mini vivi clearomizers
1 vivi clearomizer
5 2.4 atomizer heads
1 ego charger
3 mini vivi metal barrels or w/e they're called (for your stronger juices)
the collars that protect the joint from breaking on your battery/clearomizer connection

then for juice i'd use mtbakervapor (vaporfrombaker = 10% off)and sort by best selling. i typically go 18mg nicotine and 65/35 vg/pg. ectocooler and hawk sauce are very good.

idk as much about it as most of the people here but that's a good starter setup that would last probably 6 months.

thanks squashington. i'm going with the 18mg nicotine as well.

im new to this so i'm a little confused on what you've suggested. the ego twist is the battery right? and 1100/750 is the power of the battery? i thought i would only need 1 clearomizer.

i assume the only difference between a mini vivi clearomizer and something like a protank is it's size right? i'd prefer something that i wouldn't have to refill so often, but if that means a protank is huge and will be bulky in my pocket then forget it.

and the atomizer heads are the coils? i have a poor understanding of how the power system works. the coils, resistance, wattage, etc is a little confusing to me right now though i'll eventually understand it once i get used to it. i prefer something that's simple to operate for my first go.

^^

this is just me being lazy. at first i just wanted something simple like a starter kit, but the more i look into these parts the more excited i am about figuring out how everything works and how to set it up.

after more research and suggestions i will prob make a manly order along the lines of what squashington suggested and get a cheap starter kit as well just incase i **** up the order/assembly.

I don't use clearomizers but I would think with the Ego Twist you would want to get one that has 2.5 or BELOW OHMS. The ohms are the resistance of the coils. The lower resistance (the lower the ohms number) the hotter the coils burn resulting in a harder hit. I would guess that you'd want something in the 2.0 to 2.5 ohm range. Lower than that and it might hurt your battery life

For a lot of us, the fiddling and experimenting is a big part of the fun. I'm a natural tinkerer and look at vaping as kind of a hobby. Yes E cigs got a lot of us off of cigarettes but there is also a lot of fun waiting for some new APV or tank or juice coming in the mail. Good luck!

edit: Don't worry about not being able to figure stuff out. There are a million Youtube video on E cigs. Just search "filling a clearomizer", "how to use the Ego Twist", "E cigs what are OHMs", etc

p.s. If the Ego Twist and the above set up works for you I would guess that in a couple of weeks you will be looking at a more advanced "mod" (APV) like a Vamo, Itaste SVD, or a Provape Provari. That seems to be the natural progression. The Twist is a great way to get your feet wet though.

thanks brock.

the ego twist seems right up my alley. easy to manage the strength of the hit for a newb. it's also a good size and i like the look of it.

does a vivi clearomizer deliver the vape the same way a pro tank does? from what i've read about protanks is the wick is at the bottom so you don't have to tilt your ecig around to get a proper hit. this is a big deal to me. i don't want to get annoyed having to fiddle around with the position of my ecig just to enjoy a drag. from what i've read, a lot of clearomizers have the wick at the top so you need to make sure it's soaked by swishing around the juice. this seems annoying to me

i'm certainly going to get an APV for home use once i get used to everything. i just need to figure out what i like and have a better understanding of how everything works first.

I've never used the Vivi clearomizer. Is that the same thing as the Vivi Nova? If so, people seem to like them. My protanks do have a bottom coil and I never need to swish it around fwiw. You might be interested in a simple cartomizer tank like these: http://www.puresmoker.com/product_p/budsctank.htm

I've used these for over a year and have had good results. They're lighter weight than the Protank although about the same diameter. You need to get some cartomizers to use with them: http://www.puresmoker.com/product_p/budtankcarto.htm

There are a ton of tank options out there, just make sure you watch some Youtube reviews before you buy them because there are many that don't work well. For Youtube reviewers Grimm Green and Pbusardo are 2 of the best

yeah i think so. http://www.smoktek.com/Vision-25ml-M...ear_p_492.html

"The top unscrews for easy filling. The tube unscrews from the bottom to replace the heating element. The heating element is at the top of the center pole and unscrews for easy replacement."

this confuses me. does it mean it heats the wick from the bottom or top?

Looks like a top coil to me. I've used a different kind of top coil/wick tank before and it really isn't that inconvenient. You don't need to tip it every time just once in a while if you get a dry tasting hit. I think some others in this thread have used the Vivi Novas maybe they can chime in?

Maybe check out this review (I haven't seen it). I was from a while back so I'm sure improvements have been made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3wGlcR65G0

Derek,

You might want to try these out, they've gotten very good reviews and for $3 you can't beat the price

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/1...ic-cigarette-r

They are from Fasttech a super cheap Chinese site that takes about 10 days to deliver to the states (free shipping) but is about half the price or less for most of their ecig stuff

yeah. the more i look into these the less i start to care about it being a top or bottom coil. especially with the longer wicks, i'll only need to swish once in a while which is not a big deal.

this review is cool. just visualizing how everything works helps make learning about this easier. the review was about a year ago and i'm not sure exactly which model was being reviewed. hopefully improvements have been made since then to prevent your e-cig from blowing up lol.

i'm really liking the mini vivi clearo so far and want to keep going in that direction

10 days is a bit much much right now. i want to get my hands on something within the next few days. i checked it out and it looks good. will def look into it more eventually.

Derek, I use eGo batteries almost exclusively, and I used the Vivi Novas for most of last year. I am now using Kanger T3's instead because (imo) they perform better and last longer.

Unlike most of the gearheads itt, I remain perfectly happy with a simple setup.

Oh wait, you're in SD? Just go to Vapure. They're local, super helpful, and their liquids are good. You'll pay more buying retail, but it's awesome to have shop owners to talk to in person. Once you're more comfortable with what you're buying you can do it online and save $.

I bought my parents E Cigs so they would cut the habbit of smoking cigarettes, which they did. However, is nicotine from E Cigs bad for you? Should I try and get them to quit or reduce the amount of nicotine in the E Cig?

i'm getting a kanger starter kit along with the setup i'm working on now. it'll be nice to have in case all else fails and my brother could use it anyway. he smokes on and off so he might want to try it out. this is how i justify my spew i'm also getting it so i can experiment with different models to see what i like

living on the east coast right now unfortunately, but will be moving back to sd soon. there's only 1 vape store close to me right now and it's tiny. it's like 30 minutes away. i'm trigger happy and want to spew right now don't feel like making the drive tomorrow. i would def check that place out if i was still in SD

I'm around SD for the next couple of months, where is that shop? I've never been to an actual brick and mortar so I might check it out.

I suggested extra clearomizers in case something faults or you want to have multiple ones loaded with different flavors.

The setup I mentioned is very simple. I still don't understand the intracacies of the power system. For me it's not a hobby but a cigarette replacement and a nicotine fix. To start I think everyone should get a solid, but idiot proof setup and concentrate on using it properly while avoiding tobacco. Once you get past that go ahead and improve your setup however you'd like if it becomes a hobby.


Hah, I always thought the higher the ohms the stronger the hit. No wonder my 2.8's always sucked.



Yeah, same as vivi nova. The mini is the same diameter as the battery so it's less prone to damage and doesn't look as funny. I suggested a regular vivi for home use.

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As I said, most people here know way more than me about this stuff and my biggest frustration was being confused on what to order. After some research I decided my setup was best for me. I wanted something that was mobile and I never wanted to be without power or juice. There's been many times I thought I was leaving for a couple hours and I'm gone ten. Add in some drinking and friends wanting to "hit the vape" my battery would run dry.

Here's a list of links with what you'd need and why:

2 or 3 ego twists. I'd suggest two 650's and 1 1000. Carry the first two or the last one in public if you expect to be gone for 3hrs+. Always put them on the charger before bed.

http://www.vaporkings.com/Joye-eGo-Twist-s/2368.htm

I'd order 1-3-2-1-3 quantities of the Vivi products in this link. You can get by on less but this will keep you stocked for 6 months minimum.

http://www.vaporkings.com/Vision-Viv...nks-s/2579.htm

One or two battery chargers. I assume you have multiple USB adapters laying around. These will plug into any USB port.

http://www.vaporkings.com/USB-batter...harger-usb.htm


Also watch this video. You can skip the part about rebuilding the atomizer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_b-uUKVJg

I don't clean mine nearly as often as suggested and it still works great. My only complaint with the aluminum tanks is it's difficult to see how far you've filled the tank unless you're under good lighting. Eventually you can taste when the juice is getting low and judge how much you've filled.

It's an easy transition from cigs to vaping if you want to quit and you have a good setup/juice. I always tell people to vape slower and longer than a cig for best results. Definitely don't hit it like a joint. 3.9v-4.1v is my preferred power depending on the juice and atomizer head.

I use Mount Baker Vapor for juice because of the price, variety, and volume. Never used tobacco flavors but I've heard good things about Boba's Bounty from Alien Visions and whatever Copper Creek makes.

the consensus is that while nicotine isn't un-bad for you it's no worse than caffeine. It's the thousands of other chemicals in cigarettes that are the most harmful/carcinogenic.

Derek,
This stuff can be really confusing and, hopefully, one day it won't be so that new vapers will make less mistakes, Anyway, if you want, paste your shopping cart or list what you are getting and I or others here can check it and make sure you've got what you need and all the stuff is compatible.

Also, good advice by Squash about not hitting it like a joint. At first you'll want to take a quick/hard inhale like a cigarette. Don't, slow long and easy gets the most vapor. If you hit it hard you don't give the coils enough time to heat up

That Kanger T3 looks nice and solves the issue of having to buy an aluminum tank. Also has a sight gauge so you know how full it is. Maybe try both and see which you prefer. I'll definitely try the Kanger on my next order.

so this is what i'm thinking of getting so far:

-2 eGo-C TWIST 1000mAh MEGA manual battery
http://www.vaporkings.com/eGo-C-TWIS...twist-1000.htm

squashington recommended getting an 1100 and 750. i could only find 1000 and 650 on vapor kings. just going to go with two 1000 and skip on the smaller one.

-4 Vision Mini Vivi tanks with replaceable atomizer
http://www.vaporkings.com/Vivi-Nova-...ivivi-tank.htm

-1 USB battery charger for Joyetech eGo, eGo-T or eGo-C and eGo TWIST e-Cigarette batteries
http://www.vaporkings.com/USB-batter...harger-usb.htm

going to get 3 different kinds of juice from vapor kings as well. i want to get everything from 1 site so they deliver everything all together.


i dont know what this is. i've tried finding something on vapor kings that fits this description but i can't

also, i'm not sure if i need the extra atomizer heads