Nicotine does add to the throat hit. What percentage PG/VG did you get from Vixen? In general PG will give you more throat hit, VG will give you more vapor.

So your plan is to order zero nicotine pre-mixed juice, then mix 50/50 with unflavored nicotine juice to a 24mg final strength? If you're going to handle 48mg unflavored nicotine I'd recommend gloves and safety glasses. It shouldn't affect you in small quantities, but I wouldn't want to get an eye full of it.

e-cig.com sells electronic liquid e-cialis and other "health care" juices. That would be enough to make me stay away from them. (They're also not an approved ECF supplier.) See here also.

Here's a recent comparison of US suppliers: Unflavored Nic Pricing Comparison

I've ordered from both Wizard and My Freedom Smokes. Wizard's quality seems good, but they only opened in 2012. I like that MFS ships in glass.

I'd like you to introduce RPRVS E-cig - Raw Power Russian Vaping Style E-cigarette.

Benefit - easy restored/replaced parts at any plumber store.
Cost - close to zero.
Added benefit - you can safely walk at night around russian cities, using it as a weapon.


How you can make it yourself:



Take the window washing knob out of some old POS russian car:















Pour E-juice with or without nicotin:






Enjoy:



You are ready to 3bet 30% non-stop. Ez game!

Got some juices from copper creek today, so much better than anything I'd gotten from madapes or liberty flights. Got the house blend, blueberry, peach, raspberry-lemonade, and they threw in a free bottle of cool aid. All are fantastic.

Thought I'd gives you guys a quick update about my progress.

Got the apollo vtubes and juices today + yday.

One of the apollo atomizers I got didn't work so I'm going to email them to hopefully send me a new one (Anyone got any tips to make it work? I've tried twiddling around with it with a pin as per suggested on the e-cig forum to no avail).

Anyways, the other one works completely fine, and I have been vaping all day. I think I've definitely quit smoking for good, theres no urge WHATSOEVER for me to smoke an analogue at all. Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who contributed in my thread so far, and once again, thank you to my lovely e-cig woman, entertainme - You've literally helped me quit smoking (atleast I'm 99% sure I've quit anyway hehe).

Anyways so far I've tried watermelon, strawberry, normal tobacco, and strawberry is SO good hahaha.

I know I don't reek I cigs anymore but today was amusin when I walked into office and my boss asked what that smell was. He said I smelled like candy. Lol I'd just been vaping menthol

My kid smelled it the other day, and he said, "What's that smell? Smells good!"

Now I'm scared that he's going to turn into a closet vaper, and I'm going to be on Maury.

Sorry to derail again - but the BMA mainly consists of NHS doctors (it does support and include private doctors too; they meet 3 times a year acc to its wiki)

This means that the doctors aren't actually influenced by the pharmaceautical companies as they dont get lobbied like the US doctors, so i would disagree with your sentiments here.

FWIW my mother works for UCL in medical research at the royal free hospital and has done a lot of tests on new drugs; they are at pains to keep it as impartial as is possible.

i'll quote michaelsons response as he put it much more eloquently:

"Do you mean the BMA release? This is a super-sensitive response.

It's a medical association report aimed at medical professionals. It's not even critical of e-cigs. The central claim is that there have been no rigorous, peer-reviewed studies into the effectiveness of e-cigs as a "safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy." They do not make direct claims that e-cigs are unsafe (though they do reference some studies along these lines), the thrust of the release is rather that medical practitioners should not at this point advocate their use due to scientific uncertainty.

Seems reasonable to me. In the absense of any peer-reviewed studies about long term effects of e-cigs I'd think any doctor who professionally advocated them at this point was a quack. That's not to say they shouldn't approach e-cigs with an open mind and as a potentially excellent alternative to tobacco products. "

Back to the vaping im going to bite the bullet and get myself the lavatube starting kit from

http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=159

as advised by Dave in an earlier post.

Do i go ahead and purchase one of everything on that page:

Lavatube VV + 510 battery adapter + 1 AW battery + Multicharger

Plus of course a variety of small tester liquids

Any need (at the mo) for extra cartomizers/atomizers?

Thanks

You'll need the lavatube, 2x 18650 batts, and charger from that page. Skip the adapter as the lavatube works with the majority of 510 atomizers/cartomizers.

You will also need some 510 atomizers, some 510 drip tips, 1 or 2 5packs of 2.7 ohm boge type cartomizers, and I'd get a pack of CE2 type cartomizers or clearomizers to try.

I'm really happy for you!

The husband and I went to Vapebash in Chicago this weekend. It was a good time and a major shopping opportunity, of course! Picked up a hand blown glass trippy tip to match my Phiniac, some empire drip shields, and some atomizers, including a couple hand made HH.357's.

Also bought some tobacco juice, a huge surprise. After trying it, I understand the great reviews for Vermillion River Ejuice. It's a pretty amazing tobacco base.

We also scored some lava tanks. There were about 100 total for sale. The second one from left was bought for another poster. The two on the right are cobaltium, a metal alloy, the first metal lavas made:

TY sir

I like the HH .357s but those little bastards are spitters. They pack a nice punch though.

Errrm - they are out of stock of all of the 510 atomizers; the 510-T atomizers good to use?

No, I don't think so. Let me take a look at the page to try to find you something.

They seem to have these in stock, and they should work:

Steel Riva 510 Atomizer SE Edition - 5 Pack
8 Reviews (6/10)

£15.99

They also have singles in stock of the same type if you only want 1 or 2 for now.

What do lavatanks do?

I see a dripfeed at the top, do they automatically drip into atomizers or something? haha

WTF Cialis E liquid, how can that even be legal?!?!?!

Why are these banned in so many places?

The juice gets sucked through that hole in the cartomiser you can see and keeps the supply of juice flowing.

The bits at the top are just elaborate drip tips.

Because 99% of the population have no idea what they are and assume the are just cigarette smoke or a crack pipe.

These are not derails and IMO are far more important than discussing how awesome Bubblegum Mango Splash vapes. We have quit smoking, greatly improved our health, saved a lot of money, and learned how to be a lot less stinky in the process. However, we are under threat, mostly from misguided and ignorant institutional and societal bias.

This whole "zOMG we don't know what could happen!" argument is founded on the premise of proving a negative, in a situation where there is absolutely zero reason to presume that a negative even exists. What should be proven here? How do you design a study? WTF should people even be looking for?

The association between smoking and vaping is pretty obvious, so people are naturally going to assume that there might be some equivalent risks between the two. That is human nature. It is also completely illogical.

On a fundamental level, the ONLY thing vaping and smoking have in common is delivery of nicotine, and it has been firmly established that nicotine is NOT the thing that makes cigarettes bad. So, why should these medical associations be looking for reasons to find equivalent risks between the two? What is the logical basis for it?

These are the known facts:

1) Cigarette smoking is bad.
2) Vaping is a replacement for cigarettes.
3) There are no known health risks from vaping.
4) There are no known reasons to even suspect that vaping poses a health risk.

All of the "zOMG we don't know!" reports completely ignore 3 and 4. They look at 1, then look at 2, and then jump to a baseless assumption that two completely different activities might share some risks because they share one single ingredient.

A proper medical study would be very simple. It would say that all available evidence shows no risk. Instead, they assume from the start that something with proven benefits should be avoided because of Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns. They do this because tobacco has been so completely demonized in society that they can't even think straight.

It's bad medicine, bad science, bad logic, and if we don't fight it there is a good chance that it will continue to result in e-cig bans. And banning e-cigs will result in more deaths from tobacco smoking. Medical professionals need to get their heads out of their asses and reread the Hippocratic Oath.

/rant

I'm sure some of the big tobacco firms are lining the pockets of the people who are speaking out against e-cigs. The medical opinion to me seems to just say that they are an unknown quantity because no comprehensive testing has been carried out.

Tnx again for the help

I got my mini vtube in last friday, thing is big man, not sure I'll actually order the regular size. maybe for the weekend camping trips or something?

and so far I much prefer the regular atty's I have, I'm not sure what ohm rating they are, just the ones I had on my 510 starter kit seem to be nice at 3.7v. and if I just refill the standard cartridge with a few drops here and there.

this is what I've tried so far

this 5 pack of clearomizers . I filled one about half way with some coffee flavor vape I really like, but I didn't like it out of this. it also seems to be spitting out juice, after a vape there's a bunch of droplets inside the drip tip, and the juice does weird **** to my mouth. so far, not a fan. But I'm probably just be a noob

I ordered one of these clear, dual coil tank cartomizers. When I got it, I decided to give try it with the RY4 I ordered, bad idea cause I'm not a fan of the ry4 it turns out. so I poured it out, and re filled with coffee flavor. but it still tastes like ry4. This one seems to spit a little juice too, but I like it more then the clearomizers, maybe with time this one might grow on me.

Any suggestions for other stuff to try, I'm thinking of ordering some different atty's? 1.5 ohm, 2 ohm, 306 LR 1.8 ohm, etc. not really sure what is best. it would be nice if I could get a tank type set up that so I don't have to refill the standard cartridge all the time

sorry for the tldr post

Grunching, and sorry if this was covered in the other massive e-cig thread but...

Can these e-cig manufacturers please stop lying when they say that one refill is the equivalent to two packs of cigs? I have never EVER been a two-pack-a-day smoker (smoked a pack a day up til this past January, haven't smoked since) and I have yet to make one of these e-cigs last for more than a day and that's not using it nearly as often or taking nearly as many puffs as I did off an average pack of cigs.

Are these online doohickies better in terms of how long they last? Because the over-the-counter convenience store ones simply do not last long enough. Whoever wrote these claims probably worked for the cell phone industry in the Battery Life Ministry.

Yeah, that's a major problem with the public-facing side of the industry, and is going to turn a lot of people away from the legitimate products. There are great products available, but they are very hard to find for the new users.

The online doohickeys are infinitely better than what you can buy at gas stations and mall kiosks. To get the best experience, you need to research and be informed (or at least ask those of us who are on top of it).

If you're interested in a better experience, forget about the convenient options and follow the recommendations in this thread. It will take a bit of effort on your part, but will be worth it in the end.

those clearomisers arte terrible in my experience. If you want to try a decent clearo, you want to get the royal smokers xl clearomisers revision 5. i get mine at ecigexpress and they are great.