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09-03-2018 , 06:15 PM
To get a better idea of how whacked Vox is, just look up their articles on autism. They make many spurious claims, but at least they are responsible enough to back away from the vaccines. This, of course, doesn't stop them from trying to blame anti-depressants and many other things. It couldn't possibly be genetics, right?

Last edited by daveT; 09-03-2018 at 06:22 PM. Reason: remove a rant, lol, sry
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09-10-2018 , 04:36 AM
Are people still sub ohming? I've completely stopped all that and I'm all about the mtl these days. Sub ohming was actually effecting my family life believe it or not

I've tried endless mtl tanks and kabukis really are the best, with 1.2 nautilus coils, followed by one of the jac vapor tanks. As far as mods go I use the geek vape aegis. It's pretty heavy duty but its hard to break apparently. Mines never come close to breaking in 2 years anyhow. Massive battery life.
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09-10-2018 , 04:45 AM
I suppose I'm technically sub-ohming, as my coils come out to .7 ohms, but it's just because that's what works for me. Haven't changed my setup for a couple of years now. Using a melo rt25 tank with the ERL RBA. I think it's all discontinued now, but I've got spares of everything.

It's really good for making huge dual vertical coils that never leak, are never dry, have massive airflow, and last about twice as long between rebuilds as anything else I've ever tried.
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09-10-2018 , 05:55 PM
My current coil is reading at 0.27 Ohm. I build my own coils.

I did try the more recent coils and they are a massive rip off. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to spend $5 on a single coil, especially since one slightly dry hit is going to cause it to burn out in 2 days. The flavor isn't as good, the clouds aren't as good, and my own builds last for a week (or longer if it wasn't my habit to rebuild on certain days). To make it worse, a bad prefab coil is an absolute mess, often leaking black juice all over the place. I've had a few that lasted one evening before going full-on tar. It's just gross.

I have a spool of Clapton coil from Lightening Vapes that cost me $10 for 25 feet. A Coil Master v4 cost $20. Cotton is about $3. The coil will last me a year, and the kit is basically good forever. The bag of cotton lasts for several months.

FWIW, most vape shops in the US mainly sell sub-ohm coils. Seems 0.4 is pretty standard.
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09-10-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Are people still sub ohming? I've completely stopped all that and I'm all about the mtl these days. Sub ohming was actually effecting my family life believe it or not

I've tried endless mtl tanks and kabukis really are the best, with 1.2 nautilus coils, followed by one of the jac vapor tanks. As far as mods go I use the geek vape aegis. It's pretty heavy duty but its hard to break apparently. Mines never come close to breaking in 2 years anyhow. Massive battery life.
That kabukis tank looks interesting and I may grab one for giggles as a backup, but I have all but completely switched to the Suorin POD units.

So small I can carry two of them with me and the MTL is perfect on them imo.

No more huge mod & tank for me unless I am on a trip and even then, only as a backup.

I have the drip and the air and love them both. Limited capacity for sure, but the convenience far exceeds that.
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09-10-2018 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Sub ohming was actually effecting my family life believe it or not
Curious what you mean here, they just didn't like you chucking huge clouds?

My current coil is 0.41 on 50-35W, with plenty airflow and large drip tip, I do like the clouds

But I did a few weeks ago pick up a Digivape Siren V2 24mm, which is a great looking (I didn't try it yet) rebuildable MTL RTA, since I did enjoy the crazy long battery life and low juice usage back in the Kayfun Lite olden days - but that can't possibly keep up with the wicking of 100vg these days. The Siren 2 looks like it just might!

Mod wise after the premature failure of Aegis Legend (flawed product, see thread: https://www.geekvape.com/question/ae...ot-turning-on/ ) I bought what is far and away the best mod I've ever had - and it was super cheap! A Smoant Cylon.

This device is incredible! Superbly comfortable in the hand, mostly symmetrical, centered 510 connector!!!, beautiful color screen, a clock!, very fast and feature rich software, the works. The thing that impresses me the most is it boots up in ~1 second, and requires no interaction to go straight back to operational. Anything else I've had recently needed the "5 clicks" or whatever to turn it on again after a change of batteries. Sometimes after an initial boot up moment. This remembers what state it was in and just resumes right away!

It also has a nice feature, "VW Power Curve". It's like temperature control for Kanthal / Wattage mode, albeit manually set up. Can set it to fire for say 50W for the first 2 seconds then tail off to 30W, so it heats fast and gives initial hit but smooth if taking an extended lungfull. Like it a lot.

I also bought a Smoant Chiron Mini at the same time as I couldn't decide which I'd prefer. It's nice too, better even - and significantly smaller - but I didn't try it yet and for the most part it is similar. I prefer the "trap door underneath" battery loading design of the Cylon, I think.
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09-10-2018 , 08:31 PM
That thread with the Aegis is very disappointing to read.

The Cylon looks pretty cool. Glad you're liking that and hope it lasts this time.

I don't remember the last time I've turned off my mod, but then again, I buy one mod a year. If I had to 5 click one every time, I'd go crazy, haha.

There is a strange feature of the Tesla (and probably just me doing something wrong). When I turn it on, it asks me to press Up to use a new Ohm setting or Down to keep the prior Ohm setting. I would have thought this was automated, but I'm whatever on it.

On the other hand, you can't turn the Tesla off without removing the batteries.

It's pretty obvious I have no idea how to use this thing, isn't it?
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09-10-2018 , 09:08 PM
My favorite way to vape is with a mechanical tube mod with a coil at around .1. It gives me a vape I cannot get with regulated mods. They are the cadillac of vaping (imo).

On my other mods I usually go with .15. The Reload RDA is great, I'm using it now. I love RDAs.

I'm interested in trying out MTL because that's how I started 7 years ago. Might take some getting used to after all the subohming.

I tried the Penguin POD and will probably pick up a different pod system for my vape on the go. Right now I carry around a Tarot Nano which is an amazing little mod with a single coil Hadalay RDA clone. I just carry a little bottle with me because I'm tank-phobic for some reason.
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09-11-2018 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Curious what you mean here, they just didn't like you chucking huge clouds?
Apparently the ginormous clouds that followed me around everywhere were leaving a residue. I could kind of see it on the windows a bit but my other half reckons it was sticking to clothes and pretty much everything else. Also she couldn't tolerate any e-liquid with blackcurrant in it and to be fair to her it did leave a public toilety smell behind, a little bit.

I would feel a bit of a douche bellowing a cumulus into the middle of a pub as well. No so bad when it's busy but when there's only a few in and you're clearly changing the rooms air consistency every puff and you're the absolute culprit.

Once I asked a barman if it was ok to vape in the pub and he said yes as long as it's 'not super strong' because people had been complaining of a 'miasma'. So basically I didn't either bother...
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09-12-2018 , 10:52 AM
They're coming. The idiots are coming.

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09-12-2018 , 03:53 PM
Bloomberg was reporting on this as well. Seems reasonable, comparatively more teens juul today than any previous generations teens smoked.
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09-12-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by btc
Bloomberg was reporting on this as well. Seems reasonable, comparatively more teens juul today than any previous generations teens smoked.
Got a source for that?

Also, why is it a problem? Wouldn't you trade 1/10 kids starting smoking for 1/5 kids trying a Juul?

Lol this quote from Bloomberg:

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Altria, which makes Marlboro cigarettes in the U.S., gained 6.7 percent in New York trading, the biggest advance for the stock in nearly 10 years. U.S.-traded shares of British American, the maker of Camel cigarettes, climbed 6 percent, also the biggest gain in almost 10 years.
Yep, happy news from buddies in the FDA if you're in the business of getting kids hooked on traditional cigarettes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-youth-vaping
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09-12-2018 , 07:31 PM
Eh, I'd rather see kids start meth.

/snark
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10-16-2018 , 09:20 PM
Now the TRUTH people are running ads against vaping. Not bothering to cite anything resembling evidence that it's dangerous or even bad for you.
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10-17-2018 , 12:51 PM
Hello All,

I don't smoke (tobacco) but I need some advice.

My mother is a huge smoker; 2-3 packs a day. She's elderly, losing her vision, and I worry she's going to burn her house down.

I want to buy her an e-cig to try out. Could you suggest one? I need it to be:

1. Strong, so she believes it's like a real cigarette and I'm not trying to fool her.
2. Easy to use/charge
3. Useable for someone with little to no vision.

Any suggestions and thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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10-18-2018 , 02:04 PM
The little to no vision is going to be an issue because she'll have to swap coils now and then.

I have two possible suggestions...

If you want a regular vape like those in this thread are using, then try....

https://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOKTec...p/sm-skp10.htm

A 3000mAh hour battery should be enough to last her about 6 to 8 hours, though that depends on how much she's vaping. It appears that the bottom just rotates to increase / decrease the amps.

The SMOK TFV12 is a very popular tank. The coils are listed 0.15 and 0.25 Ohm. I can assure you this will be very powerful, as it's even too powerful for me.

Mind that this takes some commitment. She (and you) will have to learn about coils, juices, and so on.

She sounds like a perfect candidate for Juul, to be honest.

It's a somewhat misconception that new smokers need a powerful device. The opposite is actually true. If I handed my device to someone who only smokes, even at the settings I'm comfortable, they would turn green. I've done it to a few smokers who couldn't stop laughing at my "weak sauce" device and they never spoke like that again.

The weak device thing was an issue back 4 to 5 years ago when the standard options were maxed out over battery safety issues, but that's not the case anymore.
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10-18-2018 , 03:26 PM
Thanks for the info. I'd swap the coils for her. Even if she only used it when I'm around, it would be a win. I'll check out the links. Thanks so much for your suggestions.

I need to read up on this.
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10-18-2018 , 04:38 PM
Out side of aJuul, this needs to be a refillable POD unit imo. so much easier and cheap enough to get a couple and a bunch of extra pods. only maintenance would be filling the pods with juice and could use the strong salt nics that would likely give her a higher chance of enjoyment...ie success.

much less fuss. usb charge, no buttons, easy refills and just fill and pop a new pod on when it gets a little nasty tasting.

Something like https://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOK-In...t-p/sm-inx.htm

..or what I use, https://www.myvaporstore.com/Suorin-.../suo-air10.htm
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10-18-2018 , 06:29 PM
Ding ding ding! I think we have a winner. Gonna jump in and order the vape in the first link...pen shaped one.

I’ll be back w more questions. TYVM
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10-18-2018 , 07:56 PM
You might want to get a couple of those. The battery is 250 mAh, which won't last long. Get one so she can vape one while charging the other. Actually, I'd buy 3.

It may be safe to vape while charging, but I wouldn't suggest doing that.

As far as juice, you'll probably just want to take her to a vape shop to get the initial setup. Probably will need 12mg to start since the coils are over 1ohm.

Strength is a balance of power, nic level, and airflow.

Less power and lower airflow will demand higher nicotine. The SMOK is 10 to 14 watts, which is very low. Not bad for a beginner. A 12mg juice should give a good throat bump at that power.

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10-18-2018 , 08:16 PM
Josie, if theres still time, Get her an aspire breeze 2. Best small starter vape setup on the market right now. Refillable pods, cheap to replace coils, readily available and easy to find. It should be $25 for a kit. Comes in simple, solid colors. Avoid anything smok, or extremely subohm. Breeze 2 comes in 1.0 and .6 coils, has a solid battery life, and is basically just the perfect overall starter kit. I've been vaping for 6+ years and honestly it's the best all around device I've ever owned.

Shameless plug for my friends website - https://101vape.com/aspire-breeze-2-...ll-in-one.html

Note to mods: he basically sells these things at cost, and the lowest price on the market unless you're ordering from China. Can assure you he isn't going to going to be raking in the dough on these.

Edit: $25 is basically industry standard price after a quick google. This guy is selling them for $13 with free shipping. Just do that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-A...-/282951113574
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10-18-2018 , 08:27 PM
Anybody using nicotine salt juice with those lower level pod devices? Supposedly the nic salts have less throat hit so you can comfortably vape higher mg nicotine, plus they're absorbed faster than regular juice so you get your high/fix sooner. I'm thinking of recommending one to a hard core smoker I know, some people are saying the pods plus nic salts more closely mimic the cigarette high than the more advanced tank + mod setups
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10-18-2018 , 09:46 PM
I just got my first pod system - the Vaporesso Zero. It's really great, very small, no leaking, decent amount of vapor, good throat hit. The draw is a bit tighter than I would like, but I'm getting used to it.

There is a pod system that's top of the line called Lost Vape Orion. It goes for around $60. I plan to pick one up soon. It should give me more of what I want, in a small portable device. But for now I'm happy to have the Zero in my pocket when I go out.
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10-18-2018 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
Anybody using nicotine salt juice with those lower level pod devices? Supposedly the nic salts have less throat hit so you can comfortably vape higher mg nicotine, plus they're absorbed faster than regular juice so you get your high/fix sooner. I'm thinking of recommending one to a hard core smoker I know, some people are saying the pods plus nic salts more closely mimic the cigarette high than the more advanced tank + mod setups
it gives a nice hit and real tasty, but damn that **** hits you hard. I think when I first came off cigs I would have loved it, but I was already 2 years out when I did and lol I got a head rush and saw no need for it. Very tasty though.

try this one Josie...

https://www.myvaporstore.com/America...p/nas-wmcc.htm

Very good tobacco taste. I use the regular 12mg version of this in my Suorin Air and love it.

daveT is correct about getting a 2nd or third device. The one I use is actually 440mah and lasts me almost the day, but I have a second anyway and swap in/out all day. Try one first and then grab another once sold, you'll need extra pods anyway.

100 bucks keeps you going for a few+ months on these. Extremely economical compared to cigs of course.
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10-18-2018 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bobhalford
I just got my first pod system - the Vaporesso Zero. It's really great, very small, no leaking, decent amount of vapor, good throat hit. The draw is a bit tighter than I would like, but I'm getting used to it.
this looks pretty nice, i'm going to try it. love that refill port

https://www.myvaporstore.com/Vapores...vpes-ren10.htm
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