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07-14-2018 , 09:03 PM
That seems very problematic I wouldn't like that at all. I think I'd start out blaming the mod, surely it shouldn't be able to fire without button no matter what is connected.
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07-14-2018 , 10:04 PM
Yup. That's a device/firing button problem, not an atty problem.
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07-21-2018 , 11:16 PM
I bought a new mod. It may be shocking to know that I've never bought a dual-battery mod before. I was a little nervous because I didn't want to buy something that's huge. Of course, I considered the balance against no longer carrying a battery case.

It's called a Tesla Punk 220W.





A size comparison to the Pico 25 and a battery case:



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It looks really cool. At least, I think so.

Pretty comfortable in the hand, but if my hands were smaller, I'd have some serious problems with it. It looks like it would be sharp in the hand, but it's quite soft and ergonomic.

When I pulled the box out of the mail, I was shocked at how heavy the box was. I was hoping there was some other stuff in it, but nope, just the mod and a little USB cable. It weighs 280g / 9.87 oz. It doesn't feel that heavy in my pockets, so I guess it's okay.

It's a minor complaint, but I don't get the LED lights. There are 5 options, but I turn them off.

It may be a setting issue, but there is a noticeable ramp-up time. There are 4 settings: normal, soft, hard, and user. The user mode allows you to fine-tune the power balance, but I have no idea what all of that means. The instruction book is 2 pages of unhelpful information. With that said, the menu is super easy and intuitive to navigate and use.

It cost me $63 shipped to my door, so it feels like a good deal overall. It looks and feels expensive. It also stays warm to the touch, which I'm kind of appreciating now. The Pico 25 feels icy cold.

Would I suggest it? I don't know. I'm not super into using larger devices, so I have to get used to this. The Pico 25 is about the largest mod I've used in many years.
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07-22-2018 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I bought a new mod. It may be shocking to know that I've never bought a dual-battery mod before.
Looks nice

You probably know already, but with a dual battery mod it is important to "marry" your batteries when new. I put a small sticker on mine "A", "B", "C" etc. Always use and charge them together, never individually etc. You do not want to be putting excess load through one battery by it being in a significantly different state of resistance as it's partner.

Even more so on that device, which looks like it has a singular charge representation for both batteries which I am not a fan of.

I'm still very impressed with the Aegis Legend a month on.
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07-22-2018 , 01:25 AM
I haven't had a chance to get new batteries yet. I like to use the Samsung 30As, which are pretty difficult to find. Owning two lasts me all day, from 8am to midnight if needed. I should have time to go out tomorrow and get a pair.

Speaking of which, I do like the battery door on this. It's a weird bit of magnets and slide-on. It isn't hinged.

That Aegis looks pretty nice, though I'm not too keen on that fire button and I don't like the smell of leather. It looks like it's larger and heavier than the Punk as well. I will say that I'm duly impressed with the quality and craftmanship of these newer mods. Now we have waterproof, shockproof, interesting designs, and so on. Everything is made of metal too, which is great.

How much does knowing the individual battery charge matter?
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07-23-2018 , 10:04 AM
HI there,
I was choosing from these ones https://vapingdaily.com/cheap-vapes/...vape-box-mods/
My choice stopped on Kanger Subox Mini-C Vape Starter Kit. I'm fully satisfied. Maybe someone has tried the same one. Would be happy to hear your feedback.
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07-23-2018 , 04:35 PM
For $30, that's not a bad start. Kanger has a strong legacy of pretty good product. I wouldn't know much about the device itself, but you can't go wrong with any starter kit these days. Juul doesn't count, obviously.
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07-27-2018 , 06:12 PM
Hi lads,

I'm currently using a pico 25 with the ello tank as recommended in the thread. I'm currently vaping unflavoured homemade 70-80vg 3mg. I'm using the eleaf .2ohm stock coils which are lasting about a week.

I'd like to move onto 100vg. What tank can you recommend for that? Ideally I'd like to keep using premade coils as I can't be arsed making them anymore.

I'm vaping 30-60ml a week I guess.

This thread has been a great source of info for me over the years, thanks everyone/
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07-28-2018 , 09:45 AM
When your atty starts leaking, is this generally a sign of something specific or can it happen for a multitude of reasons?
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07-28-2018 , 10:02 AM
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When your atty starts leaking, is this generally a sign of something specific or can it happen for a multitude of reasons?
It could be for all sorts of reasons, and model specific. Incorrect cotton wicking is the usual suspect, but that's only really applicable to rebuildables. Degraded o-ring seal can be a thing, often you'll get spares with the atty. It could just be lazy filling without being careful of pressure, with some designs once the equilibrium is broken it just floods.

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Hi lads,

I'm currently using a pico 25 with the ello tank as recommended in the thread. I'm currently vaping unflavoured homemade 70-80vg 3mg. I'm using the eleaf .2ohm stock coils which are lasting about a week.

I'd like to move onto 100vg. What tank can you recommend for that? Ideally I'd like to keep using premade coils as I can't be arsed making them anymore.

I'm vaping 30-60ml a week I guess.

This thread has been a great source of info for me over the years, thanks everyone/
I only use rebuildables, but I can say I haven't had trouble with 100% VG on anything in years. Only ones that didn't wick enough were the Kayfuns.

Or do you mean using pre-rolled coils in a rebuildable, that's a thing now I guess.
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07-28-2018 , 03:02 PM
Using pre-made coils. I don't think you can put your own coils into the Ello tank.

I haven't tried it yet with 100vg so I'll do that and report back!
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07-28-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mindsplatter
Hi lads,

I'm currently using a pico 25 with the ello tank as recommended in the thread. I'm currently vaping unflavoured homemade 70-80vg 3mg. I'm using the eleaf .2ohm stock coils which are lasting about a week.

I'd like to move onto 100vg. What tank can you recommend for that? Ideally I'd like to keep using premade coils as I can't be arsed making them anymore.

I'm vaping 30-60ml a week I guess.

This thread has been a great source of info for me over the years, thanks everyone/
I've had a lot of issues using higher VG in premade coils. VG doesn't wick as fast as PG, so while it's usually okay for a day, that first dry-burn happens and it's game over. I would make sure that the cotton is saturated, meaning you have to drip on it, but that's not going to help as much as you would like. A rebuildable tank has never given me any problems.

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When your atty starts leaking, is this generally a sign of something specific or can it happen for a multitude of reasons?
A lot of reasons. Small crack in the glass, broken o-ring, bad internal pressure (which is fixable by replacing the o-rings). If you are using pre-built, your coils are possibly over-saturated, but that doesn't happen that often.

If you are building for yourself, you aren't using enough cotton to block the juice-holes.
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07-30-2018 , 11:11 PM
I've had it in both the aspire cleito, and the smok prince so I'm thinking it is something I am doing. I was thinking using for too long and over saturating but idk.

No cracks, no clue about O-Rings
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08-07-2018 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Looks nice

You probably know already, but with a dual battery mod it is important to "marry" your batteries when new. I put a small sticker on mine "A", "B", "C" etc. Always use and charge them together, never individually etc. You do not want to be putting excess load through one battery by it being in a significantly different state of resistance as it's partner.

Even more so on that device, which looks like it has a singular charge representation for both batteries which I am not a fan of.

I'm still very impressed with the Aegis Legend a month on.
Wow, this is the first time I've heard of 'marrying' batteries. I've been doing this since day 1, but didn't know the logic/reason behind it. Thanks for sharing this

I always charge the same pair together, use them together, store them together.. so yeah. It's pretty much a marriage alright
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08-28-2018 , 06:05 AM
Welp, Aegis Legend dead after not even 3 months Can not recommend! Nice idea to have a water proof, drop proof, crush proof mod - but that's all for naught if it's circuit board just randomly stops recognising new batteries and won't turn on after a while!

Was a fairly slow and steady degradation, for the past few weeks I usually had to pop new batteries out then in again and it would fire right up, then remain perfect until next battery change. Initially this was rare, then became frequent, then always needing a few retries, and now it won't turn on no matter what I did.

Oh well, back to trusty old and battered Smok Alien while I await the delivery of new gadgets And now I'm using this again I realize how much more pleasant it is to hold just be being so much smaller and lighter - but it also feels like it's mostly made out of cheap plastic, which it is!

Still finding the Vandy Vape Pyro a nice atty for sure.
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08-28-2018 , 01:37 PM
Damn, that's like Pioneer 4 You... Is that a general problem or just bad luck for you? It's a pretty cool-looking device.
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09-02-2018 , 04:48 PM
Juuling looks like a whole new generation getting hooked on nicotine. "The real innovation in nicotine chemistry comes from nicotine salts and freebasing the nicotine." https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...ng-e-cigarette
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09-02-2018 , 05:44 PM
That seems like the standard anecdotal fearmongering that the media has been pushing for the last 12 years, just in a different wrapper. Tide pods weren't a thing until the media insisted it was.
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09-02-2018 , 06:02 PM
And even if it were 100% factual, it's a pretty damn good "problem" to have. "Oh no all the cool kids are using Juuls instead of Marlboro reds! the horror!".

Even your post here. "a whole new generation getting hooked on nicotine". Wait a minute... Has there been generations recently that actually did not get "hooked on nicotine"? No? Oh, so it's entirely standard then, just they aren't using tobacco cigarettes for once, and therefore nonsense scaremongering "we don't know the risks" rubbish.

There is no way, absolutely no way any ecig use is a "gateway" to traditional smoking. Outside of some insane scenario where a government outlaws ecigs / makes them very difficult to obtain, while cigs are available to anyone on every street corner. "Cigarettes - like a Juul, but unpleasant and it kills you!" - tempting, huh?
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09-03-2018 , 01:46 AM
For the record, Vox is an SF-based leftist "news site." This isn't the first time it's wrote misinformed articles about Juul or ecigs... they write misinformed articles on everything, actually.

I'll let you do your own Google.
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09-03-2018 , 01:57 AM
Also it's kind of amusing to me, these Juul devices are simply flattened ~1.5 Ohm cigalikes very reminiscent of the olde worlde Joyetech 510 180mAH that gave our esteemed threading of choice it's name. I actually quit smoking using those, at an absurdly high 36mg nic similar to what is being scaremongered here.

What is old is new again, and it's not even been a decade!

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09-03-2018 , 11:00 AM
Not sure about the earlier devices you reference, but this brand uses nicotine salts in their freebasing delivery system. Juul devices are crack pipes, juul pods are crack rocks. Pod tops are littered across school yards like empty crack viles once were. Whether the article is from a left or right leaning outlet is irrelevant because ignoring a very real issue, kids being a majority of their users, is irresponsible and dangerous. If they help adults quit smoking, fine enough, but please explain how children abusing nicotine is a good thing or even just acceptable.
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09-03-2018 , 11:22 AM
Lol
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09-03-2018 , 04:52 PM
Caffeine is a substantially greater health risk than nicotine. Maybe try targeting your hysteria at energy drinks or something.
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09-03-2018 , 05:11 PM
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Not sure about the earlier devices you reference, but this brand uses nicotine salts in their freebasing delivery system. Juul devices are crack pipes, juul pods are crack rocks. Pod tops are littered across school yards like empty crack viles once were. Whether the article is from a left or right leaning outlet is irrelevant because ignoring a very real issue, kids being a majority of their users, is irresponsible and dangerous. If they help adults quit smoking, fine enough, but please explain how children abusing nicotine is a good thing or even just acceptable.
Come on, man. I went to school in a nasty ghetto during the Crack is Whack years. I never seen crack rocks laying around the school yard, wtf, man? Everyone smoked cigarettes, even the kids you'd never expect. Besides, all the cool kids are using meth these days.

Vox is preaching to the choir of it's readership. They don't let silly things like facts get in the way of journalism. Anyone who's somewhat familiar with vaping should be rolling their eyes at their silly articles. It's wrong on so many levels.
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