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05-10-2018 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
4 year anniversary this month of being off of the sticks. Luckily i haven't caught the bigger and newer is better bug. Still rocking the best tank ever made for people who want a no nonsense vape, the Nautilus Aspire, 1.6 ohm coil, 13w.

Still using whatever internal vvw battery happens to be cheapest when the last one craps out. Most last at least a year and some I have had to retire because they just would not last more than a few hours on a full charge. Right now that happens to be 2 Eleaf iStick TC40Ws.

Yeah, I'm trying not to get hurt patting myself on the back, but just wanted to let people know there is still some older, easy to use technology out there that can get you pointed in the right direction. And I think posting your goals ITT help a lot. I know it did for me. Thanks!
That's awesome No reason to change what's working good!

I would perhaps recommend an istick pico (if you aren't actually using the temp control feature of the TC, which I guess you aren't), only so you can just replace the battery rather than the whole unit when it becomes lacking in charge-holding ability. Easier to carry a spare and swap out too if you use it enough to need to do so.
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05-10-2018 , 09:02 PM
^^^^^ Thanks for the recommendation. Guess I'm a creature of habit. Got confused on which batteries would catch on fire when China/Japan/???? started manufacturing them and which sub-ohm level was safe etc.... Realized I wasn't a cloud chaser and didn't need a new hobby rebuilding my own crap. If I spend a few extra bucks for what I'm comfortable with, it is still way cheaper than a 2 pack a day habit.

Couple of things I forgot to mention as well. 1st off if anyone is looking to buy term life insurance, Prudential is the only major company that will rate you as a non-smoker if you have been tobacco free for 3 years. Vaping with nicotine and/or CBD oil is OK. Just got a 30 year term $250,000 that will take me to age 82 for less money than I was paying on my smokers policy from 14 years ago. (Not affiliated with Prudential or an insurance salesman).

Secondly, I broke my back when I was 17 on a trampoline. Never needed surgery and have learned how to deal with the pain with the help of a regular schedule at the chiropractor. Since i live in Texas, legal cannabis is not an option. Recently got into CBD oil and after going thru about a half dozen of them, i finally found one with no flavor when i mix it with my juice but does the job on pain. Revival CBD 500mg bottled by Vanguard in Ontario Oregon. (Again no affiliation)

TL;DR probably, but there are more benefits to vaping and not smoking than I first realized. And when the odometer rolls past 50, you might actually care about what I just posted.
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05-11-2018 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
It's a rebuildable, rather than stock coils - but I've recently got an OBS Engine which is a 5ml top airflow subohm tank and I love it.

Another is the Geekvape Zeus, also rebuildable but only a single coil deck. No idea what it's like but I remember seeing it when looking for a leakproof tank, I ended up getting the above. (Edit: I see they now have a Zeus Dual, which might be nice.)

Googling the Maganus Cloud Blaster, it looks like it should have come with an RTA deck, so maybe just grab some wire and cotton and build that?
Thanks for replying. Yes, it came with an RTA deck, cotton, etc., but I'm lost when it comes to that stuff. I tried building on some other tanks in the past -- watched Youtube videos, etc. -- but the build never worked for me. I'm actually fairly handy, but not in that area.
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05-11-2018 , 04:44 PM
A thing that has changed and maybe will help is it's pretty easy to buy pre-rolled coils now. For example: https://www.amazon.com/Prebuilt-Kant...=clapton+coils (assuming you are USA)

Making those is far and away the hardest part, personally I just use plain round wire or a pre-made (bought) spool of clapton wire and then I have a coilmaster tool to help with the rolling - prebuilt coils will skip this step.

A key thing is to dry-burn the coils once they're in and "strum" them, to even out the "glow" - watch a video on this for sure. It's crazy, no idea why it works or what it even does - but work it does indeed!

So then it's just a matter of trim a piece of cotton. Inside coil it should be tight, inside wicking channel it should be NOT tight. That's a rough guide but really videos for your specific tank are a godsend here.

Perhaps worth a try?
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05-11-2018 , 05:45 PM
I think it's awesome you're still on an Aspire. That tank was probably my least favorite during that era, but that didn't stop me from rebuilding those coils every two days, lol.

Like _dave_, I prefer to buy the prewound Clapton as well. It's crazy how $10 can last a whole year. Massive money saver and a much better vape. Wrapping isn't hard at all these days, especially with the wrapping tools.
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05-12-2018 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
A thing that has changed and maybe will help is it's pretty easy to buy pre-rolled coils now. For example: https://www.amazon.com/Prebuilt-Kant...=clapton+coils (assuming you are USA)

Making those is far and away the hardest part, personally I just use plain round wire or a pre-made (bought) spool of clapton wire and then I have a coilmaster tool to help with the rolling - prebuilt coils will skip this step.

A key thing is to dry-burn the coils once they're in and "strum" them, to even out the "glow" - watch a video on this for sure. It's crazy, no idea why it works or what it even does - but work it does indeed!

So then it's just a matter of trim a piece of cotton. Inside coil it should be tight, inside wicking channel it should be NOT tight. That's a rough guide but really videos for your specific tank are a godsend here.

Perhaps worth a try?
That kit looks great. I gave it a whirl last night and made one using the two pre-rolled coils that came with the tank. From what you said, I probably screwed up by not dry-burning them before I put the cotton in. I haven't tried it yet because, well, I'm afraid I messed up and will cause a short or burn my mouth or something. Should I take the cotton back out, clean it and then do the dry burn? I still have one premade coils left, so I don't have to rush with this. Thanks for your help.
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05-12-2018 , 02:11 PM
It's nearly impossible to mess up a build these days. The main steps are wrap, heat the coil, add cotton, soak the cotton, burn off juice for a few seconds. Lots of YouTube videos on this topic. There are many variations but none are absolutely correct or wrong, so click a top result and you're good to go. After a few dozen builds, you'll get the logic of it.

I never once got a dry burn off a fresh buld. The main issues are either a very weak hit or a shorted coil. A short coil is a strange and unpleasant metallic taste, though that's rarer than getting a weak coil. The hardest part of the process, wrapping, is already done for you, so all you really have to get right is soaking the coil and burn off juice.
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05-12-2018 , 03:00 PM
I had a segelie 150 stop taking a charge. All I want is something that can support a sub ohm aspire cleito tank (usually do 0.2 and 0.4 ohm). Preferably variable voltage and built in battery. Anyone have any good cheaper recs?
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05-12-2018 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Stu
That kit looks great. I gave it a whirl last night and made one using the two pre-rolled coils that came with the tank. From what you said, I probably screwed up by not dry-burning them before I put the cotton in. I haven't tried it yet because, well, I'm afraid I messed up and will cause a short or burn my mouth or something. Should I take the cotton back out, clean it and then do the dry burn? I still have one premade coils left, so I don't have to rush with this. Thanks for your help.
Yep, no big deal at all to pull out the cotton and do missed steps. Any fragments of cotton that remain will be simply burned away when you fire it up, so you may wish to do it next to a window. Blow on it a little to make sure.

You won't need to replace the coils, those will last for ages.

What mod are you using, I don't think you said? If it's regulated (probably, is it VW? does it have a screen?) chances are it will protect you from any shorting issues.

FWIW this is also how you clean / re-wick an RBA deck, at the similar point to where you'd throw away a single piece atomiser coil - when it starts tasting bad. Just pull the cotton, then dry burn it (fire it with no wick / juice), let it get red-hot. Then blow very hard at the coils (aim out the window!) and all the gunk will be cleaned away. Then let it cool down, put in fresh cotton and good as new! An alternative to blowing on it is to upturn and dip the red-hot coils in to a little cold water in the sink (DO NOT be still pressing the fire button at this point!), then repeat the process until no more gunk falls off when dunked.

GL
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05-12-2018 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
I had a segelie 150 stop taking a charge. All I want is something that can support a sub ohm aspire cleito tank (usually do 0.2 and 0.4 ohm). Preferably variable voltage and built in battery. Anyone have any good cheaper recs?
An eleaf tessera? no idea if any good - just googled it - but eleaf stuff usually is, I have a pico and it's solid. idk I'm kinda sceptical of anything with an internal battery for 0.2 ohm applications and would prefer something with a pair of Sony VTC or Samsung 25R. Currently have an old Smok Alien and the reddit darling a Voopoo Drag for this purpose.
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05-12-2018 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
idk I'm kinda sceptical of anything with an internal battery for 0.2 ohm applications
Any reason for this feeling?

I tried googling and there's like 1000 options ahhhh!
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05-12-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
Any reason for this feeling?
Sub-ohm vaping can be very taxing on the battery. If you're using 18650s you can select the very best batteries for the heavy service. With built-ins, you're at the mercy of whatever crap the manufacturer found the best deal on when they built that batch.

That's just one of many reasons I prefer 18650 devices.
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05-13-2018 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Sub-ohm vaping can be very taxing on the battery. If you're using 18650s you can select the very best batteries for the heavy service. With built-ins, you're at the mercy of whatever crap the manufacturer found the best deal on when they built that batch.

That's just one of many reasons I prefer 18650 devices.
That actually makes a lot of sense, since the reviews for my current device were all about the battery crapping out. Mines lasted 2+ years though! (probably only 9ish months of usage though)

Good to know though. I had a 18650 device before, for some reason i enjoy just micro usb charging more though.
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05-13-2018 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
for some reason i enjoy just micro usb charging more though.
Pretty much any (every?) modern 18560 device has built-in usb charging.
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05-13-2018 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Pretty much any (every?) modern 18560 device has built-in usb charging.
Gotcha. Back in my day we had pen size devices! Its all confusing now!
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05-14-2018 , 08:54 PM
Yeah, things have changed. It's even somewhat safe to do USB charging these days. I did kill one LG brown, but that battery was near the end of it's life cycle anyways.

I just have a Pico 25 with a Samsung 30A that I've been charging via USB. That battery lasts a long time as well.
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06-18-2018 , 12:45 AM
Finally back to rebuilding tomorrow, according to USPS.

I bought this Vandy Vape Pyro:

http://www.vandyvape.com/atomizer/rdta/pyro-24-rdta/

Looking forward to not buying coils. They really are expensive.
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06-20-2018 , 04:26 AM
I'll give a little bit of early impression of this Vandy Vape Pyro.

Aesthetic

This thing is just beautiful. It feels weighty and solid. I have the black one, and the mix of the yellow ultum looks really cool.

The packaging is nice, nothing special, except that step one is ripping the entire thing apart to remove this insert they put inside. I'm not sure what the insert is for. It seems that it would block off one of the cotton slots. The tolerances are very tight, so it took a bit of work to get everything loosened up enough to pull it all apart.

Capacity is around the advertised 4mL. The insert would probably drop it to 2mL.

The build deck

The build deck is very nice as well. I've never used postless, so it's a bit strange to build on. I built up a dual-coil measuring 2Ohm. The cotton slots look huge without cotton in it, but they seem to be relatively leak-proof so far.

The vape

It's very difficult for me to explain this vape. It's super airy yet it feels chunky. I can't speak too much on the flavor since I'm perpetually tongue-fatigued, but it seems like there is a bit more than usual. Really, this thing is a cloud-chasing device. It's also the most silent item I've ever used...

Cons

Postless decks probably aren't for everyone. This is my first time trying it. I will say that, if you try it, you definitely want to use heavy gauge coils, or a spool of Clapton or other chunky coil. You don't have a whole lot of room for error on this type of deck, since you have to clip the leads just right before installing the coils. If you never built before, this is absolutely not the device for you.

Remember how I said it was super silent? There is a caveat to that: as long as the airflow is open all the way. Closing it off makes the atty whistle. I'm not sure how loud it it, but it's irritating.

Maybe minor, but the connection pin is short. If you are used to twisting a lot to get an atty off the mod, it's a little disorienting.

Overall

I never buy any atty and fall immediately in love with it, but I don't have anything I hate about it either. I like using RDTAs and this seems to be getting the job done. RDTAs are just kind of strange devices.
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06-20-2018 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
step one is ripping the entire thing apart to remove this insert they put inside. I'm not sure what the insert is for. It seems that it would block off one of the cotton slots. The tolerances are very tight, so it took a bit of work to get everything loosened up enough to pull it all apart.

Capacity is around the advertised 4mL. The insert would probably drop it to 2mL.
Yep, that's exactly the point of the insert - 2ml capacity makes it Euro TPD compliant.

Might grab one of these to check out. Did you go dual coil? no leaks? can it tolerate being left on it's side without leaking?
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06-20-2018 , 09:54 AM
That insert is a brilliant work around. Hard enough to keep up with US laws, so I didn't know about this.

Yes, my first build was dual Clapton coil. I'll probably try single coil next. I've been laying it on it's side with no issues. The cotton slots aren't aligned with the airflow holes. I could post some pictures later.
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06-20-2018 , 09:33 PM
Here's some photos.

1- The entire device.

2- How it looks built. There's a lot of cotton on that. The fill holes are next to the coils. It has two of them, so no fighting air when you fill it.

3- The piece that closes off the fill holes.The airflow is coming from under the coils.

4- No leaking at all. The tank is filled about 1/4 on that photo though it may not look it.







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07-03-2018 , 06:31 PM
Thank you.

I bought one and have been using it for the last week or two.

It's easily the best RDTA I've used, very nice. Tastes like a dripper, but is a tank. Impressed.

Going back and forth with my OBS Engine though,

Cons:

- I wish the reservoir was larger, like twice the size would be amazing with no detriment to performance.

- It gets Fooking HOT. like burn lips hot. Instead of the tiny altum driptip, I'm using a 1.5cm length resin tip and still I might accidentally touch my lips to the metal on occasion and OUCH!

- Maybe this is just mine - it's air vents are up/down when screwed in fully to all my mods. This is not ideal. Good mods are venting sideways when fully screwed in.

Will prob order an ODS Engine 2, just for the cooling. I'm also interested in an Aromamizer plus for the 10ml capacity.


At the same time, I bought a Geekvape Aegis Legend - this is incredible! very big for a dual 18650, but damn if it doesn't feel bulletproof and supremely comfortable.

Last edited by _dave_; 07-03-2018 at 06:40 PM.
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07-03-2018 , 10:46 PM
I don't get hot at all. It could be for one of a few reasons (I'm guessing).

- I vape at 45w on double coil. Single coil is maybe 30w, but really can't go past that since the air flow isn't high enough for single coil. I vaped up to 60w on a double, but no thanks.

- Speaking of airflow, how you build your coils are makes a huge difference. Too low, too large, and so on really takes away the airflow. A double coil that's high enough to be above the airflow holes seems optimal. I'm wrapping doubles around a 25.

I normally like single coil, but that build was around a 35 bit, which was enough to stuff two cotton balls into. I didn't like the vape much at all.

- My device is painted black, which would possibly be less conductive than the metal ones.

I agree about the reservoir, I do wish it was bigger. I've been using the least amount of cotton I could, which makes it feel relatively normal.
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07-11-2018 , 01:26 PM
maybe already mentioned in here, but if you are mouth-to-lung like me, check out this Suorin Air POD device. It's pretty damn nice and at the very least is an excellent back up device. my mod stopped recognizing my kanger tank yesterday and the guy at the store turned me on to it while I was there getting a replacement mod.

i think the salt juice stuff may be a bit too strong for me though
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07-14-2018 , 07:35 PM
I got the Pyro to get nice and holy-**** hot. In my most recent build, the coils are very high. I usually can see at least part of the coils through the air holes, and this time, I cannot.

I've been having a strange problem, and it hasn't occurred on any other atty I've used. The mod just starts firing with no button push and seems to be failing to notice that it is firing for too long. This, of course, causes the tank to get extremely hot and smoke up. It's highly unnerving and I'm suspecting it has something to do with the pin.
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