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06-09-2011 , 07:23 PM
I just got my order from Tasty Vapors. My biggest gripe with most sites Ive tried is that there is really only a hint of flavor to me. I dont know if thats because I have no taste buds left, or the flavor just sucks. So far though, the flavor of these tasty vapor liquids is actually overwhelming, which is basically what I was looking for. It doesnt just feel like Im vaping out of a plastic tube. I feel a few Ave Juice flavors were like this as well, they just dont have the right selection for me yet. Hopefully Ill be happy with this site for a while, but knowing me Ill probably be sick of it in a week or two and be complaining again!

Also, totally agree about direct dripping, I just get annoyed with drip tips. Theres leaks, juice in the mouth etc. Gets old fast. I really like the Volcano Magma atty and the Magma LR atty, which has a covered coil, so you dont need to buy a special tip to drip on it.

Also, this Cinnicide is the bees knees
06-09-2011 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clyro
Right now in my basket I have;

Winston
Spearmint
Kiwi
Cappucchino

So still a ton of stuff to find. If anyone has any experience with libertyflights juice I'd love to hear your thoughts...in particular tobacco stuff

random question but do the bottles have a dripper on the lid?
Cappuccino from LF is one of the worst juices I've ever had. Maybe I just got a bad sample bottle batch, but it was gross. USA, Highway, are good tobaccos from there. Pineapple is very good and I would also recommend Menthol Smooth. Go to avejuice for excellence as others have said.

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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Spent a lot of money.


I still haven't been able to make a decent coffee. It's my holy grail.
freedomsmokeusa's cappuccino smooth is the best I've found so far. I would say avoid condensed milk from flavor art because it tastes terribly of buttered popcorn, and sweet cream flavoring from whoever Nic Vape buys it from goes in that direction too and also isn't that great.
06-09-2011 , 07:39 PM
I'm in Scotland so a lot of these sites won't ship here/expensive for shipping. Just checked avejuice and it's only North America

I'm gonna stick to libertyflights just now to keep my order all together plus I found a 15% discount code, anyone else want it?

Thanks for the suggestions though, I guess I'll give cappuccino a miss then! Have you had the coffee one?
06-09-2011 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bobhalford
The only downside is you don't get the dizzying effect of nicotine as delivered by a cigarette. The nicotine is natural and will not give you that buzz you get from tobacco, especially the kind of buzz first thing in the morning or after you haven't smoked in a while. That's what I miss the most.
This sounds like a man who hasn't taken a couple of big drags at 36mg. or higher "tobacco rush" is certainly attainable

I agree with most of what you said, but for me I can comfortably sacrifice some throat hit or some flavour for convenience. direct dripping is annoying even sitting at a desk playing poker, but really inconvenient out on the beers and forget about it while driving. Cartos often take a 1/2 day of use before they're going at full strength, I can imagine people giving up on them easily after the first refill produces poor vapour or throat hit. it is annoying to buy a T-atty and dislike it, they're expensive - that's why I posted above to get the T-starter kit, and separate LR attys, it seems it's much cheaper that way. I can't ever be annoyed if I buy cartos on reports they're good and they turn out not to be, they're only $1 or rarely $2 - I used to spend that on a day or less of analogs! And I've tried enough varieties now to know there are some that give great flavour/vapour production and throat hit - they do exist - it's just a little less likely than buying an LR atty. Personally I hate it when a $10 atty fails, and for me they do so all to quickly, so I'm cartos almost all the time now.
06-09-2011 , 10:19 PM
This past Sunday (June 5th) was 6 months i've haven't smoked. Almost 30 yrs of a pack-pack 1/2. My doctor gave me some Wellbutrin and after about 6 weeks (300mg in the am and 150 at noon), I woke up one day and just, 'had no desire for a cigarette'. None!, it was as if the 'nicotine button' had been flipped. Off! The hardest 'habit' to break was not the habit of the nicotine,...the hardest habit to break was the habit of lighting something and having it in my hand. ON the phone, On the comp, after a meal, after brushing my teeth, driving down the road, watching tv, etc., etc., etc. It was these 'trigger points' (as i like to call them), that was my biggest hurdle. Once I started beating the 'trigger point' situations, we/I was good to go. On day ONE I went from a pack a day to 1/2 pack. It was probably about another....ohhhhhh......1...1 1/2...2 months before I quit completely. And I do not mind saying, this is one of my all time greatest accomplishments. And I never 'freaked out', lost my mind, paced the floors, ate everything in sight, got all cranky, snappy, mean,.......nothing. NOthing in my life changed except i was not smoking as much. Until one day not at all. And I really REALLY.......feel good about that!
06-10-2011 , 01:56 PM
so after reading through the last few pages of the thread i think i'm going to take the plunge and buy either the Ego-T 900 mAh starter kit or the Riva starter kit. Any strong opinions on which would be better? Also, should i buy a LR atty also?

I'm still kind of confused as to how all of the peices and parts go together. It would be cool to see some sort of diagram that showed all of the components and how they work together. I know that you can replace the atty's with a carto, etc, but am not sure why other than personal preference. Also, i still have no clue what direct dripping is. Any help is much appreciated.
06-10-2011 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
so after reading through the last few pages of the thread i think i'm going to take the plunge and buy either the Ego-T 900 mAh starter kit or the Riva starter kit. Any strong opinions on which would be better? Also, should i buy a LR atty also?

I'm still kind of confused as to how all of the peices and parts go together. It would be cool to see some sort of diagram that showed all of the components and how they work together. I know that you can replace the atty's with a carto, etc, but am not sure why other than personal preference. Also, i still have no clue what direct dripping is. Any help is much appreciated.
I'd get the Riva if it has cartomizers. The Ego-T is a tank system and it's no good.

Once you get the kit it will be easy to put it together. And there are plenty of videos on youtube that demonstrate everything there is to know about e-cigs. Just do a search for the Riva model and there should be a video. There are also vids for direct dripping. You may want to start with a cartomizer first and then try direct dripping.

LR atomizers are best, yeah.
06-10-2011 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
This sounds like a man who hasn't taken a couple of big drags at 36mg. or higher "tobacco rush" is certainly attainable

I agree with most of what you said, but for me I can comfortably sacrifice some throat hit or some flavour for convenience. direct dripping is annoying even sitting at a desk playing poker, but really inconvenient out on the beers and forget about it while driving. Cartos often take a 1/2 day of use before they're going at full strength, I can imagine people giving up on them easily after the first refill produces poor vapour or throat hit. it is annoying to buy a T-atty and dislike it, they're expensive - that's why I posted above to get the T-starter kit, and separate LR attys, it seems it's much cheaper that way. I can't ever be annoyed if I buy cartos on reports they're good and they turn out not to be, they're only $1 or rarely $2 - I used to spend that on a day or less of analogs! And I've tried enough varieties now to know there are some that give great flavour/vapour production and throat hit - they do exist - it's just a little less likely than buying an LR atty. Personally I hate it when a $10 atty fails, and for me they do so all to quickly, so I'm cartos almost all the time now.
Hmm, 36mg+ juice...can you put me in touch with your dealer? I haven't seen that offered anywhere.

I agree that dripping can be a bit of a drag. I think that if my goal was just to stay off analogs, I could deal with sacrificing flavor, vapor or TH. But now I just want to get massive clouds of vapor with powerful throat hit and excellent flavor. I'm really interested in vaping at higher voltages. Some people on ECF say they prefer 3.7. I'm curious what to expect from a VV or 5V mod.

I got my Backwoods Brew order today. This guy has to be one of the best brewmasters around. I've only had two of four flavors and they are both of high quality. It seems like there are ingredients to this juice that are of very high quality. A lot of his juices are tobacco based, and initially I wasn't sure of it, since tobacco flavor is very subjective and difficult to replicate in a vapor. I used to smoke only Marlboro reds, and anything else was inferior, except for maybe Nat Sherman. I think most people smoke only one brand. But these juices taste really good. I remember liking Robacco from Blue Mist a lot, and I thought it was odd because I really wasn't interested so much in vaping tobacco, but that's the one that stuck.

I'll probably get my Alien Visions order soon. Interested in seeing how this company matches up.

Two others that I'm eying right now are Vermillion and Kick Bass. I've decided to do a little experiment with selecting juices. I will only order from vendors that sell juice and little else. If they sell more than a few types of attys and cartos, they're out. Also, they cannot have a wide selection. I have a feeling that when they offer too many varieties, that they are just trying to have everything, and the quality suffers. I think the BWB guy takes a lot of time making these juices and puts a lot of effort into making each juice taste good. He doesn't need to have every type of flavor. He just wants every juice to taste good, no matter what the flavor.

I'm getting the Boba's Bounty, Gorilla, Hype, Banana Slurry, Craveloupe, Sweet Tart, and Apple Teaser.

Btw, avoid Gourmet Vapor. Anyone tried Mrs. T's Bakery? Any other top quality liquids you can recommend?
06-11-2011 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Spent a lot of money.

I basically ordered a 3ml sample of every flavour, from every flavouring manufacturer. I also bought some (massively overpriced) 36mg unflavoured juice to mix from an e-cig supplier, and just started mixing and trying every different flavour I could think of. Eventually I had a bunch of really good recipes, and was able to order the base flavours I needed in bulk from the manufacturers. I'm still continually experimenting.

I'm at the point now that I'm making some really good juice, better than anything pre-made I've ever tried. They currently cost me around $4/30ml each, but I've nailed down some really cheap and high quality suppliers. In the beginning it was more like $20/30ml bottle, not counting startup costs of around $1000.

I still haven't been able to make a decent coffee. It's my holy grail.
any plan on reselling some of ur juices to cover part of ur costs ?
06-11-2011 , 05:27 PM
Yeah, I've been selling lots, but just to people I know. I've been selling at $15/30ml so it's going to take me a long long time to get even. I really don't mind, when you factor all the money I've spent on vaping It's still been cheaper than smoking. Where I live, cigarettes are around $12/pack and I was doing 1.5 packs/day.
06-13-2011 , 09:12 AM
Just ordered a mega 510 (280mah) and a "mega" ego (950mah) and chargers to test the waters. Going to be using with cartos which seems the easiest.

Smoking cliffs: I quit smoking 2 pack per day 1.5 years ago but still smoke (much less) when drinking (<2 packs so far in 2011). Wife in same boat and I want to switch to e-cigs with 0 nic e-liquid because not nicotine reliant.

For anyone interested I would definitely recommend Allan Carr's book "Easy Way" as a way to quit. For the price it is definitely worth a try (worked well for me).
06-13-2011 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bobhalford
I'd get the Riva if it has cartomizers. The Ego-T is a tank system and it's no good.

Once you get the kit it will be easy to put it together. And there are plenty of videos on youtube that demonstrate everything there is to know about e-cigs. Just do a search for the Riva model and there should be a video. There are also vids for direct dripping. You may want to start with a cartomizer first and then try direct dripping.

LR atomizers are best, yeah.
ok, so the riva just comes with a standard atomizer, but you can add on a LR atty also. I'm still somewhat confused about these. I assume cartomizers replace the atomizer, but are a similar function? Do i fill the atomizer or cartomizer with the juice? sorry for being a noob, i just want to make sure i get myself set up right and that this will help me quit smoking analogs for good.
06-13-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
I'm still somewhat confused about these. I assume cartomizers replace the atomizer, but are a similar function? Do i fill the atomizer or cartomizer with the juice? sorry for being a noob, i just want to make sure i get myself set up right and that this will help me quit smoking analogs for good.
yes indeed.

a normal atomizer, standard or LR, either you use it on it's own (preferably with a drip-tip), and "direct drip" only a couple of drops of juice at a time - or fill a plastic foam-filled "cart" (mouthpeice) with 12-15 drops of juice and attach this on the end of the atty.

A cartomizer is a one-piece device, replacing the cart + atty, hence the name. it too needs filling with juice, they usually hold a good bit more.
06-13-2011 , 02:28 PM
New guys: Read post 838 for a primer on everything vaping. It should answer a lot of your questions.
06-13-2011 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bobhalford
I'm getting the Boba's Bounty, Gorilla, Hype, Banana Slurry, Craveloupe, Sweet Tart, and Apple Teaser.
I love AVE juices. However, Apple Teaser is a big let down. It has a very, very strange taste. I also think the watermelon is subpar.

I would have traded out the Apple Teaser for the Strawberry Cooler.
06-13-2011 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bobhalford
Hmm, 36mg+ juice...can you put me in touch with your dealer? I haven't seen that offered anywhere.
I'm a little surprised, most places in the UK I've looked at offer 36mg "super strong". You only get higher in no-flavour juice designed for DIY mixing, it's certainly not recommended to vape the 60mg and the 100mg, I think you need to wear protective clothing to safely handle it

Blue Mist seems to have a good selection, they were linked earlier itt and seem very cheap / good: http://shop.bluemistvaping.com/
06-13-2011 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
New guys: Read post 838 for a primer on everything vaping. It should answer a lot of your questions.
thanks, i dont know how i skipped over that post.
06-13-2011 , 07:45 PM
I've got a quick question for someone knowledgeable. I see some people put drip tips on cartomizers. How and why?
06-13-2011 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
I love AVE juices. However, Apple Teaser is a big let down. It has a very, very strange taste. I also think the watermelon is subpar.

I would have traded out the Apple Teaser for the Strawberry Cooler.
For some reason, the AVE juice isn't working for me. It may be the PG/VG mix. It has a harsh TH and chemical aftertaste. The only exception is Boba's Bounty, which I enjoy, and the Gorilla is pretty good.

The Mr. E-Liquid juice is good, tastes clean. I think that I'm now partial to flavored tobacco juice from BWB. The fruit and candy might be good to vape here and there, but I think I've found what I like with BWB.

Halo seems to have something unique going on with their juice, so I may have a go in the future.
06-13-2011 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny El
I've got a quick question for someone knowledgeable. I see some people put drip tips on cartomizers. How and why?
Basically just to have a better mouthpiece. Dripping through a drip tip into a cartomizer usually doesn't work that well because the juice tends to go straight down into the carto hole and gives a flooded hit.

As far as how, just use a toothpick or something similar to pop off the rubber (or plastic) plug and slide a 510 drip tip in it's place. I never really saw the point, tough.
06-13-2011 , 08:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oski
I love AVE juices. However, Apple Teaser is a big let down. It has a very, very strange taste. I also think the watermelon is subpar.

I would have traded out the Apple Teaser for the Strawberry Cooler.
Try the PG Hype Oski, it's become my all day vape lately. Very strong fruity flavor. I agree on the watermelon. My last shipment of Apple Teaser was also sub par, seems watered down or something.
06-13-2011 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
Try the PG Hype Oski, it's become my all day vape lately. Very strong fruity flavor. I agree on the watermelon. My last shipment of Apple Teaser was also sub par, seems watered down or something.
Yeah, I think I posted this before, but Hype is in my regular rotation.

From Ave: Strawberry Cooler, Banana Slurry, Hype, Cravalope. I use Sweet Tart as an additive for a lot of fruit flavors, especially the ones from Volcano.
06-14-2011 , 12:06 AM
Hey guys can someone look over my order and see if there's anything I'm missing (didn't include juice)

Electronic C Riva 510 White Riva 510 - Cone £3.39 1 £3.39
Electronic C Boge Cartomizers Boge 510 Cartomizer 2.0 Ohm (Black) - 5 Pack £5.52 1 £5.52
Electronic C Riva 510 White Riva 510 - Lite Bundle £25.49 1 £25.49
Low Resistan 510 LR White 510 Low Resistance - Single £5.35 2 £10.69
Mods Drip Tips 510/901 Delrin Drip Tips - Type D £1.06 2 £2.13
06-14-2011 , 12:40 AM
You can probably do without the £3 cone, I think the kit comes with one already. otherwise looks good. I'd prob have a second LR atty just in case.
06-14-2011 , 12:52 AM
Cheers mate

Added the cone as the e-cig comes with two of everything but only one cone. Am I right in saying I don't need the cone if using cartomizers or is this way off? If that is the case then I'll just take it off, thanks.

I do have a second LR attty on that order How long will they last btw?

      
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