Who is the arbiter of poor taste?
I'm not aware - correct me if I'm wrong - that the movie came with a pre-release label of "Warning: No Character Development in this Movie". Of course, even if someone went to see it now armed with this info and then complained about it, they would be perfectly fine stating, "I know what the director was going for here, but the lack of character development just didn't work for me".

There was no lack of character development, just like there is no lack of tomatoes in a green salad.

There is an absence of character development.

That is the point I am trying to make with the salad analogy, lol "I dont recall any warnings". JFC.

Its an important distinction, precisely because many movies tv etc are bad precisely because of issues to do with character development. In these there is a lack, something is meant to be there, and its not, or is not there in sufficient quality.

In DK its not intended to be there, its an intentional absence.

I get that some people might not like that, and I think they might not like that because so much of their consumption of film and TV depends on it, is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.

The lack of character development is one of the points of the movie. If you wanted the movie to be exactly like Saving Private Ryan or Platoon, then those movies are already available. Frankly, I am glad that there are still directors that do not listen to some of you people, otherwise we would have the same four movies made over and over again.

I have a great idea: Let's talk about other movies and how they are horrible for condescending reasons!


No Country for Old Men:



Inception:




Twelve Monkeys:



2001: A Space Odyssey:

Right, and for me he didn't achieve engagement via other means.

There are character driven movies and plot driven movies. This one seems like it takes plot driven to the extreme. If you prefer character driven, you probably won't care for this movie. That's really all there is to it.

Huh... who knew that everyone that sees a movie doesn't like it to the same degree? Now I know.

Thanks OOT!

Posters,

Dunkirk was good.

Most films are driven by both plot and character.

Incorrect. Most films have elements of both but that isn't what drives them. Forrest Gump is character driven. Saving Private Ryan is plot driven. Both have characters and a plot but different driving forces. I dabble in screenwriting and there is a very clear distinction.

I don't agree that Saving Private Ryan is plot driven. Stop condescending!!!!!!

I do not think that means what this thread thinks it means. (movie quote for a movie thread)

Obviously there is a clear distinction between them, no one is disputing that. You obviously dont dable in research if you think two examples is a statistical proof.

The degree to which one drives or the other varies per film, but they are present as driving forces in most films and the list of films in which they are relatively equal forces is much bigger than the list in which one absolutely dominates.

Your hypothesis was that their is a clear binary distinction, that a film is either plot driven or character driven:
That assertion is 100% false. Films that are purely one or the other are very rare.

You seem very triggered from people having opinions differing wildly from yours. Work on that, bro.

Dunkirk was a Dud

IYO.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dunkirk_2017

Box office not looking dud like either.

Sigh. Your post wreaks of desperation in an effort to make yourself sound correct. You literally have no idea what you're talking about and look like a fool for even trying to engage in this discussion. Seriously, do a simple google search of character driven vs plot driven so you can understand that there is a distinction. You're the one coming to false conclusions about what each term means because you don't know what they mean. Character driven does not mean it has no plot and plot driven does not mean it has no characters.

And if you think my two examples were an attempt to statistically show that there is a difference, then my post went over your head even more than I realized. Literally every movie falls into one of those categories. Every. Single. One. (With, perhaps, the extraordinarily rare artsy film or pornography.) Sorry I didn't have the time to list every movie ever created for you. And I assure you my education on statistical analysis supercedes yours by leaps and bounds.

Please, try to google this in an attempt to educate yourself. We all make mistakes in life and are wrong from time to time. Most times, it's best just to admit it and move on. I implore you and anyone else interested to google "character driven vs plot driven" if they'd like to learn more.

Right, his post is the one that reeks of desperation

Hard to get so much fail into one post, bravo.

1. I already clarified that there is of course a distinction between plot driven and character driven. Try reading better.

The point is that most films exist on a spectrum between those two devices and films that are purely one or the other are very rare.

You disputed this and if this was not your intention, try framing your arguments better and thinking about what you post more.

Cliffs:

1. Read better.
2. Argue better.

Visual cliffs on your performance so far itt:

What's truly sad is you fail to realize what a clown you look like in this thread. Seriously. I pity you and your inability to comprehend facts. Anybody here is free to google character driven vs plot driven and see you have no idea what you're talking about. If you took the 10 seconds to do the same, you would realize that, too. But you won't. Because you're too childish and immature with woefully lacking self-esteem to acknowledge that you are wrong and ignorant on this subject.

Therefore, it is a waste of time dealing with you. I hope someday you can learn to admit that you were wrong and that it's ok. You'll be much happier and develop real friendships if you can do that. Good luck in life.

Hopefully most posters ITT have the rudimentary intelligence required not to need to google the obvious indisputable reality that films, books etc exist on a spectrum between emphasis on plot and character.

Folks please. The movie, Dunkirk, was not bad. It was in fact good.

Some people thought it was bad

Some people went to see The Emoji Movie this weekend.

Obligatory "but Transformers" comment.

GTFO you nerd! Things go boom and me likey!!!!