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Old 05-21-2010, 08:42 PM   #326
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Re: Does earning $65k per year mean you're poor?

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Yes -- you can hang around other people's homes or in public parks. You can also wander around the street.



What? Honestly. 400 sqft? Do you have a bathroom? Obviously your living space is your bedroom but do you also have a kitchen with actual appliances?

No sane person would be happy living in 400 sqft. Jail cells are larger than that.
No, Jail cells are not that large.

I had a place that was about this size when living alone and it had plenty of room when I was in college. I had a bathroom, a somewhat separate sleeping area that had a half wall between the living area, and had a separate kitchen with appliances. Obviously not ideal living, but I enjoyed that having my own place more than having a bigger place shared with roommates.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:00 PM   #327
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if you live in NYC yes, if you live most places no.
This.

Before I opened the thread I read the title and said to myself, "Not unless you're living in NYC or San Francisco."
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:01 PM   #328
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Re: Does earning $65k per year mean you're poor?

just consulted my mom who cooks 2 legit high-quality meals per day for a household of 3 at the moment and she spends 12 bucks on olive oil per month. im assuming she only buys the good stuff that comes in the metal cans.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:07 PM   #329
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1) Just using your how much you spend on food I could eat EVERY DAY:
Fruit--4lbs of Bananas or 2lbs of Apples
Veggies--3 heads of lettuce, or 6 bell peppers, or 3 heads broccoli
Meat---1.5lbs boneless skinless chicken breast or 1lb flank steak
Seafood--1.5lb cod
Eggs--5 eggs
Coffee--prob like 10cups
Milk--20oz milk
Olive Oil--WTFWTFWTF
Pasta--2$/wk is good
Bread-4 slices whole wheat
OP's entire digestive system is so well lubricated with all that olive oil that he can't absorb any nutrients. All that food just slides right through.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:10 PM   #330
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Guys stuff gets pretty expensive as well -- not quite up to the higher-end female products but our products are actually quite expensive if we actually put effort into taking care of our skin. Most guys don't though.



It depends on the meal but I'd say that isn't the case for 80% of stuff here. Chicken Parmigiana if I make it from scratch will cost me the more than a box of frozen Chick-n Parmigiana. Regardless, that wasn't the main point. For me if I'm going to prepare a meal it is actually a meal that involves a lot of ingredients which is much more expensive than eating like a nine year old and just throwing some chicken nuggets and fries in the oven. I couldn't make what I consider a meal for under $20 and most likely I would be looking at $30+ but if I just wanted to eat whatever I can buy pasta in a can for $1-2.
Yes, because a nine year old wouldn't be sophisticated enough to appreciate the delicacy of chicken Parmesan.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:24 PM   #331
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pretty hard to argue with this, but



I rest my case with:



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and the picking the mushrooms out of the foodz and the can't handle raw meat and the buys $15/pound staple proteins despite not actually liking how things taste and the what not. I don't even have to do this; the chiming in that is to come will surely do enough. Oh, and you look like Sean Hannity.
i don't know if you'll get much chiming in here - it is a great but unneeded deconstruction that i doubt you'll get many attaboys for - but henry's entire work in this thread is pure lol on several levels.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:34 PM   #332
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:37 PM   #333
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Re: Does earning $65k per year mean you're poor?

Henry certainly doesn't seem to have a sense of humor. At least it doesn't show at all over the 'net. I'm enjoying both sides of the argument though. Anytime someone calls out Ano for being an overly wordy pseudo-intellectual it warms the cockles of my black heart.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:05 PM   #334
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What? Honestly. 400 sqft? Do you have a bathroom? Obviously your living space is your bedroom but do you also have a kitchen with actual appliances?

No sane person would be happy living in 400 sqft. Jail cells are larger than that.
I lived (until recently) in a 250 square ft. studio apartment -- and yes, it had its own bathroom and kitchenette. It was cramped, but had every single comfort that I needed.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:11 PM   #335
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Ok so $10 per month per person for the olive oil.

$400 is still a lot for food.
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still seems pretty high for two people. The food bill shouldn't increase exponentially just because its two people instead of one.
IIRC he's including alcohol in it as well, which could definitely be 100-200 a month for two people.

And all those light bulbs really add up
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:21 PM   #336
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800 is a lot and he's got bogus numbers for a lot of items, etc...
I guess i'm looking at it from my own perspective, I don't think 400 is "high"

I spend 330 on food, beer from my fridge/liquor in my place, and eating out at reasonable places twice a week.

11 for breakfast weekly
15 for lunch weekly
15 for dinner weekly
25 for eating out twice a week
8 bucks for beer

If you add in occasional spices, toiletries, or a special occasion where i buy some liquor/wine for people to come over 400 is really reasonable.

If i bought my milk, bread, OJ, deli meats/cheese in massive portions of poor quality at Sams Club or Costco the number could go down a lot, but OP has stated he gets utility from buying decent food.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:28 PM   #337
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If you haven't been to one of those stores in 15 years or so you're kinda missing out, dude. It's not just 144-packs of Louis Rich pressed turkey anymore.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:32 PM   #338
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If you haven't been to one of those stores in 15 years or so you're kinda missing out, dude. It's not just 144-packs of Louis Rich pressed turkey anymore.
Admittedly, i haven't been to either in some time, don't you also have to pay a monthly fee for them?

I'll probably check them out again with a friend who has a membership. Thinking about it, that's probably the key to cutting his costs, i imagine a loaf of bread ($3.00 currently for me), or a gallon of OJ ($5.00) would be significantly cheaper there.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:45 PM   #339
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These events are hit or miss, there's no use denying it. I have definitely felt bored, bewildered, annoyed, and/or intellectually intimidated at these places, but I've also had a lot of great times. Not everyone in this world is a bs artist, and part of the fun is taking the risk.
My sister lives in Brooklyn. One of the last few times I was up that way, she dragged me to a (free) talk & q-n-a with a couple of her heroes of theatrical theory. Now, I know dick-all from theatrical theory and most of what she has ever had to say about it bounces right off my skull. "We're trying to make theater... into a bowl." No ****, toots. Anyway, they were both oldish women and one of them was clearly some flavor of autie. It was ****ing fascinating & super engaging. It's been quite a while and I haven't followed up, so I couldn't tell you much of what it was about, but I even asked a couple of questions, got good feedback, and it gave us more than enough to talk about for the next few days. Random **** like this, imo, is what really makes NYC a theme park for grownups. Not that theme park theme parks don't rule.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:06 PM   #340
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My place is just under 500 square feet and is perfect for me I could probably lose another 50 and be fine with it. The only real drawback is that there is no escaping the smell after I poop.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:07 PM   #341
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My place is just under 500 square feet and is perfect for me I could probably lose another 50 and be fine with it. The only real drawback is that there is no escaping the smell after I poop.
drawback?
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:20 PM   #342
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You guys who seem to think 400sqf is too small are either bad at furnishing your space or just own a lot of big items. I'm living by myself in ~750sqf at the moment and even with a drum set and a large computer desk I have a ton of extra space. If I weren't so lazy I could condense even more and still be very comfortable.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:21 PM   #343
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How is this thread so ****ing long?
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:27 PM   #344
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I don't think 400 is "high"
it isn't, especially if you're including alcohol
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:30 PM   #345
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How is this thread so ****ing long?
First you get to make fun of the OP, then you get to fight with New Yorkers, then Henry17 showed up. Pretty much a perfect trifecta
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:31 PM   #346
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wtf already? Dude spends like $200 on food and donks off $600 in the pits. That itemized shopping list should be used in GA as an example of hiding losses.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:33 PM   #347
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I'm pretty sure the pits excuse is just hiding his poker losses.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:38 PM   #348
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Bolded items you should not be buying.

If you're in debt, why are you buying alcohol? Also why are you buying cologne/hair gel? Who are you trying to impress? you already have a GF.

Just read prices. If you stopped buying those 5 items, you'd save 183$ a month. That's nearly 25%. 25% is a **** ton.

Although if you have really ****ty hair, then the hair gel is fine at 6/month. However, if you're one of those DBags that use it to spike their hair, please stop. It makes you look like a moron.
You're an idiot.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:38 PM   #349
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I'm pretty sure the pits excuse is just hiding his poker losses.
I don't disagree with that; in fact, that's quite common. For some reason people rather others assume they're complete gambling degenerates than admit they just suck at poker.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:42 PM   #350
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How is this thread so ****ing long?
three fiddy +1 in less than 24h isn't too shabby

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