My gf's inability to predict/avoid potholes gets my adrenaline going like crazy. We've been lucky so far so I fear she suspects we're invincible.

Alobar's gratuitous offer is a really dumb bet to put out there worded like that. A handful of 39 or 41 year olds from a differing race would be some Boss Level ****.

I'm in for the bet against Alobar.

Also will help find 10 people within 10 days of either side of 40 for a % of the other peoples action to make it easy on them.

I don't want to spoil alobar's action, but I still think he can't do what he's proposing.

Gotta be a catch. Are you guys totally unfamiliar with prop bets that someone offers?

penalty for selling alcohol to minors can be north of $5K, multiple penalties may result in a loss of a license

I'll snap claim $40 off an idiot who's actively sandbagging his employer, and then ask him to wave sales tax since I'm paying cash

I understand the reason for the rule. I don't believe taking the $40 would make anything better though. You'd almost certainly cause the cashier to receive punishment in either the form of having to pay the $ out of pocket or being reprimanded/fired.

It seems more like you're fine punishing a cashier who knows how to do their job and knows there's no need to card grey haired fake lawyers. It'd be different if you were 22.

I'm mostly having a hard time imagining you whipping out your ID and telling the poor cashier to give you $40, and being involved with whatever collecting entails, as opposed to just taking your Natty Light & Fireball and leaving.

We're familiar. When you say catch do you mean Alobar's going to puss out?

Greg Oden jumps out of a deck of cards and pisses in your ear!

Familiar, eh?

No, I'm saying his interpretation of the prop he offered is likely to be very different from yours. Somehow semantically correct, etc. I don't recall him stating it like that or that it was even an offer of a bet, but I would be wary of accepting a bet without re-reading it very carefully.

This is Alobar, the guy who can run 100 miles in 24 hrs, we're talking about.

Why is essentially having to ID everyone as part of your job description ridiculous? Why would getting fired for not doing the simplest and most important aspect of your job also be ridiculous?

It's not like you don't know what the job entails before you get hired if for some reason you think checking IDs is ridiculous.

I literally have zero experience with European work ethic or how jobs are viewed there, so I'm basically assuming that your are letting your emotions of how you view having everyone be IDed to buy alcohol effect how you feel about this? Cuz I really don't understand it otherwise.

In Europe if you get hired to be a door man, and then only open the door when you feel like it, general attitude is "no big deal, you get to keep your job, you do it correctly some of the time"??

hah, dick!

I'm not actually looking to bet, as I thought my point was pretty clear (obviously I was wrong). I'd just ask every single person for their ID and thus I'd never be wrong. I guess the more logically correct way to word it would have been "I will never fail to distinguish someone who is under 40", but my aim was just to point out that the difficulty of being correct on whether someone is over/under 40 has absolutely no bearing on the job because it's super easy to get right.

What if they didn't have ID or they were using a fake? PAY UP!

It would be something to become a regular, commiserate with the cashier about working for the man etc. then when he lets you slide on the ID drop the hammer.

Alobar,

Your point was pretty clear. Perhaps you missed leveling up while you were in the pokey?


All,

The whole over under 40 id reward thing just seems weird. The law is pretty clear on what's required (don't sell to anyone under 21). For a business owner to decide on the policy we've been discussing seems to set the clerks up for failure and resentment.

If I were going to guess there was a mistake made and a fine paid, and the excuse was the customer/inspector or whatever looked like they were 30 or something. Angry owner says “from now on, you card anyone who looks under 40! You got that? No excuses. And just to be sure...” makes sign.

I mean come on, y’all. You really think this was just to **** with employees and give customers a chance to win $40?

Side note. I was once told if a young woman asks you to guess her age ALWAYS guess 24 if it is even remotely possible. Younger women will not be offended and older women will be happy about it. It’s the perfect line.

No, but that was the result.

Let me preface this with, **** the man and all. Now, if you were the man, how would you go about ensuring you don’t get fined again due to carelessness of your cashiers, or, you know, selling booze to minors if you care about that.

I'd probably do what 99.9% of businesses that sell alcohol do, which is to require anyone who you're not certain is of age to show ID. I don;t think I'd implement a program that rewards old looking 39 yr old customers with cash prizes though.

Maybe this place makes extra money from people under 40 due to this policy.

hehe.... I remember a story with fake ID or so....


On a serious note, if to card everyone is a part of cashier's job description, like it was explicitly said to him or he received it as a part of his contract, then he should do it.

That changes nothing in the fact that it is nonsense. I mean.... the requirement to card such an old hag like me is waste of my time and waste of cashier's time.

It changes also nothing in the fact that trying to make the cashier to pay for it is completely outrageous. I mean.... I design plant equipment that costs often > 500 k. No one never would expect me to pay if this equipment pieces fail.

It changes also nothing in the fact that getting fired without corresponding procedure with written warning and so on is ridiculous, even for a cashier.

It changes also nothing in the fact that this offer with 40 y.o. is plain harassment of the cashier. I mean.... if I see the logic with 21y.o. the offer with 40 y.o. doesn't make the owner in any way more money and if I would be the cashier it would make me feel that the only reason for such policy is to make my life harder.

A whole lot of words to say: Why narc on the poor schmuck? Unless this is 21st amendment LKJ, then I totally support being a needler.

If the "pothole fillers" did their jobs, you would not have this problem. Be glad that in loleuroland they cannot be fired for not doing their job. Win, win!

This was Howard’s attitude toward Nima’s EDD fraud. I should have spiced up the story by having the clerk mumble some rape fantasies.