Happy holiday Canada! I give three years before our learning disabled brother to the south copies his cool older sister.

Sorry to hijack the LC thread fellas (and lady)

UPDATE: she couldn't keep her mouth shut for a whole day or so and give me a little time so about 40 minutes after I told her I'd get back with her I get a phone call.

I am not going to go through the whole conversation but it started out with "What is there to think about?!"

Went badly to somewhat calm to ending terribly. This woman does bring out the worst in me. I'm not an angry dude at all and that is not the case when I'm talking with her. Even after 20 minutes and 3 hours of text (after she hung up on me) I still didn't say a few things I wanted to say. I need to get over that but that's the anger. In real time I can't hurt her but after I stew on it I get pissed I didn't call her out on her bull****.

My favorite part which I mostly told her what I wanted to say: "xxxx why would you tell me if you knew having the child was s bad idea and you were all but positive you'd abort, what would that accomplish? How would that benefit anybody else but you by alleviating your conscious?" Her answer as before was

" i thought it was the right thing to do" but now she added , "I asked several women" and they all complimented her saying "I wouldn't have had the character for that, you're brave" . Ugghhh. None of them, including xxxx is very smart I guess. These types of comments make the whole thing easier. I said that's the opposite of what I was told. "Oh but i bet you only talked to guys. "Nope, a few girls also added you're selfish. It's about you and you only" No rebuttal. Forgot to add she did admit that my feelings about the matter do not matter. Pregnant women can be moody and I get that are going through the physical aspect if this so they take on most of this. It's emotionally damaging. But it's totally asinine to think mine don't matter, and this seems to be a trend. Nevertheless.

I told her I'm going and she questioned why and finally said for **** sake come along but I probably won't talk to you. Fine with me. She sent me a picture of the test that's positive btw. I think she's shutting me out so she doesn't realize I'm awesome, and cause she's 8 weeks pregnant and looks terrible. You guys are right, I'm going Friday

You guys are broken up? Why the eff would you go? She doesn't want you there. And your insistence on going, over her objection, proves that she was right in thinking there was some obligation to tell specifically you.

Yes if you impregnated her you are obligated to go if she wants you there, but you're making it worse for everyone.

Good luck winning her back at the abortion clinic.

wp. Yeah, jeez, Vincent, you ARE going to the abortion to try to win her back! Stop fighting with her on the phone, over text or in person. Move on.

Also re "(lady)" in your post salutation: there are 3 lady regs itt lately.

Totally agree with microbet (edit: and Great Oreo). Pay or don't pay, demand a receipt or not, whatever. You insisting on going is not in anyone's best interest.

Mostly I agreed with that. Then I got a lot of conflicting answers. Now it's the opposite wtf. The relationship is over guys. My brother who's opinion I value highly in these situations was give her the money and wash your hands with her, which sounds nice but it still didn't sit right. But he added later "maybe I would go, for the finality of it" .

God damnit

You have no interest in seeing it through so in a few years you ain't got a 3 year old kid walking around with a mom demanding child support?

What's with the anti-Dutch posting?

Considering I wouldn't have the ability to force an abortion if she didn't want one, this doesn't seem relevant at all.

No. And your going doesn't make the abortion more likely and if it's your goal to go in order to make it more likely that's awful. If you are smart you will pay and think about this as little as possible, which means not even reading or responding to any more posts on the subject. Hopefully you won't even finish reading this sentence.

Lol micro. Let me just snap my fingers and forget about it. You know, cause doing that a long time ago wouldn't have benefited my state of mind. Wtf is wrong with me, why didn't I just do that a long time ago?

Dude. That's part of the problem every week or 2 weeks since I'm starting to move on and she contacts me to br8ng some **** up. That's part of my anger, she hasn't just let it go man. Bow out of the conversation, and I will too unless it continues I guess.

Going doesn't make it more likely, it just makes it more likely I know it's done. I'll consider it

You can't snap your fingers and forget, but you are making it harder to move on just by agonizing over this and going to the abortion, over her objection, will massively make it harder.

Vincent you need to ghost this sceming ***** as soon as this is done.

FYP

Ghost? Ignore right? Is that a tender term cause I'm not into that

We weren't talking anyway obv. I'd just like yo hear the ones that were so adamant I should go respond to micro and spider

Micro, I think it's more effective to talk things out if you can until you feel peace with the issue. Some folks are different.

I'm sure you're right to a degree and I'm very inclined to not talking things out, but some things can be talked out because you need to work out either the correct decision or establish a working relationship - like if you break up with a woman and share custody of children. As far as getting over things that are really over, I'm a big believer that you just reinforce neural pathways or something sciency like that when you rehash things and make it harder to move on. And in this case what is likely to be a very emotional and contentious event is going to leave a lasting mark as opposed to tie up loose ends. And you're not doing her any favors.

Now, arguing in the politics forum for a while now has turned me into a jerk. I can't help but go back to

and think that your going to the abortion is not an attempt to get closure, but exactly what LBR pointed out.

I would like to change my opinion (even though I don't think I explicitly stated it) and say that VV should not go to the clinic to pay. At first I thought there was a chance that the woman was the wack-job but it's clear that VV is the one that is off the rails.

I'm not sure people were so much insisting that you be there but that you pay the clinic directly.

Given that she has made it quite clear she doesn't want you there, don't go.

Pay the bill and move on.

She's not a whack job and I've defended her itt. She's just emotionally unavailable and why we broke up. Wanted two different things out of a relationship. After sitting on it for a couple weeks I came to the realization the relationship started with sex and I continued it based off that knowing she was bad for me. We were both using each other.

Micro, I was being facetious. Sorry

Pokeraz, understood and I am starting to agree. That's exactly why I brought it up here. I get multiple different viewpoints and have mostly not been insulted except for didaces little cheap shot

It's not worth the pissing contest, the fighting, or even the contact with her.

This is an act of an angry woman, so yeah it's out of how she normally acted in the relationship.

I mean pay it or don't. $600 makes it go away or you deal with her pretense for a while longer, so my advice would be to pay it and that ends it all. Think of it as payment for a lesson.

I'm telling ya, there's a reason why she's angry enough to pull out the abortion card. What's the reason (whether justifiable or not) Vincent? $600 makes it all go away.

Think of it this way, you don't have to spend a cent on her (or her kids) during the holidays.

The reason could be that she didn't want the relationship to end.

Whether you pay it to her or the clinic, what the fuck difference does it make to you? It's still $600 out of your pocket either way and ffs do not follow her to clinic or offer to go with her.

$600 for peace of mind.

Vincent Vega,

You have to ask yourself, what do you want? Do you want it to be over, yes or no?

If yes, stop the 3 hour texts.

If no, stop the 3 hour texts.

They help neither situation.

If you want her back, pay the money and let her miss you. (and let the guilt consume her)

If you want it over, pay the money and move on. (and let the guilt consume her)

JOSIE

3/6 Suited,

'sucker' suggests deceived or tricked. I am not suggesting I believe her for one minute.

Giuseppina Anna Maria or Josie for short. I'm neither male nor Latino.

4 posts in a row Jose? Really?