Whats the difference? My understanding is that molly is E that's laced with other ****.

Pretty sure most everyone here has picked up on that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope

Strawman

Self-preservation ≠ Purity

That Sinope one seems interesting. Just used my new weed grinder for the first time. Gonna vape, drink a beer in the shower, then will read.


Also, my self preservation is questionable at best long before I ever smoked weed.

That's the point, i'm talking about not ****ing up your life/brain.

I mean cmon man, you're being a cliche.

What happens when the next thing stronger is no longer so strong? Back on the hunt for something stronger methinks.

Your buddy isn't that smart BH. He's an enabler and/or naive.

I don't ask this sarcastically, but is there strong reason to believe that doing E or a psychedelic once or twice per month will prevent me from dealing pai gow and paying rent?

You're totally right about the second part. And I've thought about that.

Is there a strong reason to believe you'd only do it once or twice per month?

Question:

Is there a strong reason to believe that eating fast food or going to Costco once or twice a month will prevent you from being in shape?

Availability, for one. I've been trying to do shrooms for over 3 years and have come across it once.

Also a few months ago when I was in possession of a few hits of acid I did it 3 times over the course of 5 weeks.

I feel like that leads more to my point. Because the answer is obv no to that question.

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The easiest way to get yourself out of the junkie hole is to not dig it to begin with

Duh

hmmmmmmmmmm

I wonder if being a 'drug and concert guy' moving forward could change that up

Well I guess that's all there is to it, keep looking for that thing you like more.

Do what you want bro, I just hope the best for you then.

If I were convinced doing E once, and then sparingly leads you straight to the junkyard then I wouldn't do it.

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I definitely appreciate the concern.

I'm not beyond being educated. My thing is, up until 5 years ago or so I didn't think there was a difference between marijuana, cocaine, or heroin. Any one who does any of that is a ****ing junkie loser. Because I had zero first hand knowledge of any of it and believed in the crusade against drugs and everything the middle school guidance counselor told us.

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That doesn't make sense.

That's my point. What's your point?

Reasonable people can do dangerous things but I'm not reasonable when I like things so ... I feel I'm okay to take ecstasy. It won't be available you see.

But I do ask, never mind what you know about me, is someone going to a concert once a month and doing acid or ecstacy doomed to failure?

Leads who?

People are different. That is my point.

No obv not.

People can do things recreationally. I just don't trust myself. Ignorance is bliss.

But people who are addicts also aren't doomed to failure, there's functioning addicts. All depends on how you define 'failure'

My point is obv eating fast food a few times a month doesn't prevent you from being in shape. Fast food:fitness::drugs:junkiness.

I can't speak to how many doses something becomes an issue.

I know I do have a close girl friend who has memory issues now from 'recreational' ecstasy use. Anecdotal evidence means piss all though. I haven't read too deeply on it because it's something I refuse to do anyway.

It would be easy for me to rationalize use the way you are now.

LOL

And my point is you aren't that guy who has the ability to delay gratification.

You have to be self-aware. You are normally, but you're seemingly rationalizing what you want to do. Your buddy gave you the green light which is just the worst possible thing.

And I'm not sure about this for myself. Am I more inclined than the average person? Quite possibly.

I've been drinking occasionally since a big after my 21st birthday. Don't know if I've ever had alcohol on 4 separate days in the same week. Now that I can tolerate beer I drink more often, maybe twice a week. When I was just a liquor guy, I was more once per month.

I've battled gambling addiction. Even at my worst I've never bought into anything with my loose 5s or 10s. I was so hooked on video poker in Vegas, now that I'm not there anymore, I haven't don't that easily in a year. Do non poker gambling maybe once per month.

All that to say, is yes, I'm not immune, but I'm also not a slave to any potential vice I come across.

I am rationalizing it because I'm not convinced that it's a terrible idea. I assure you I'm not asking around about meth.


And further to the fast food analogy. I have to eat a couple times per day, and that's an easy way to do it. I am not required, or really able, to do serious drugs more than once a month or so.