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01-10-2018 , 08:02 AM
Night one of no smoke drugs in the book. Lots of vodka consumed. Not as enjoyable.
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01-10-2018 , 08:57 AM
I went 5 nights, then had two nights smoking, then tonight (its nearly 11:30pm here) will be night 13 of the second stint. Looking for three weeks uninterrupted, and couldn't acquire any right now even if I wanted to. Always a bit of a shortage in January, my guy tells me.
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01-10-2018 , 01:50 PM
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01-10-2018 , 02:36 PM
The history of both marijuana laws and MDMA laws is an intellectual joke. On the former, a federal official named Harry Anslinger simply made up facts to support federal regulation after he was appointed as founding commissioner of the federal bureau of narcotics; previously, he had written positively about marijuana. On MDMA, the DEA literally ignored the correct legal standard to place it on schedule I. A federal court reversed the DEA and told the DEA to apply the correct standard. On remand, the DEA applied the correct standard but wholly ignored a ton of evidence showing that MDMA did not fit within that standard. Both are complete embarrassments without a shred of intellectual integrity.
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01-10-2018 , 03:23 PM
I'm surprised there aren't more attempts to get marijuana off of schedule 1, because it still being a schedule 1 drug is a freaking joke.

Last edited by 27offsuit; 01-10-2018 at 05:31 PM.
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01-10-2018 , 05:22 PM
Howard, iyo, what should be the status of MDMA?
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01-10-2018 , 05:40 PM
As a matter of policy or personal opinion, I’d likely legalize it. As a matter of the current regulatory regime, schedule I requires two things: a high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use. The history is clear that MDMA can be very useful in psychotherapy settings because it eliminates emotional barriers to expression. The FDA recently approved clinical studies for treatment of PTSD, so stay tuned on the issue. But I think it should be on either schedule II or III, likely II — I do think it definitely has significant potential for abuse.

I think it’s fairly irrational that these schedules don’t make a distinction between physical dependence (eg opiates) and psychological dependence.

As I understand the current state of the science, overusing MDMA can hurt you, but that careful and occasional use generally will not.

As rhetorically pleasing as proportionality arguments are, they rarely win. So I’m unimpressed by the argument that alcohol causes more harm than MDMA, so MDMA should be made legal.
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01-10-2018 , 05:49 PM
Saw HT posting here......My mind went on picturing HT high as a kite posting here
My mind goes weird places
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01-10-2018 , 05:53 PM
Doubtful that HT was high as a kite while posting that. He seemed quite lucid and non spherical
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01-10-2018 , 06:03 PM
Lol at two posts above. Do you love this s***? Are you high af right now?

Interestingly, the MDMA episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopeia just came on.
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01-10-2018 , 06:06 PM
He is.... I mean lucid in his usual well articulated manner and not high
But I am high from not enough sleep.

I found some weed. Weed is actually not my drug, but now..... I have it there. And although I know exactly who lost it, I don't want to give it back to them, because it is not the first time they are losing their stuff directly in the hall. I don't smoke and certainly not gonna start now.

Can I do something different than cookies or brownies? Can I do something that I actually feel high? I tried weed 2~3 times in my life as cookies and never felt anything.
I mean cookies tasted good, but other than that it does nothing for me.
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01-10-2018 , 06:11 PM
Those cookies were likely not very potent.

How much did you find?
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01-10-2018 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
As a matter of policy or personal opinion, I’d likely legalize it. As a matter of the current regulatory regime, schedule I requires two things: a high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use. The history is clear that MDMA can be very useful in psychotherapy settings because it eliminates emotional barriers to expression. The FDA recently approved clinical studies for treatment of PTSD, so stay tuned on the issue. But I think it should be on either schedule II or III, likely II — I do think it definitely has significant potential for abuse.

I think it’s fairly irrational that these schedules don’t make a distinction between physical dependence (eg opiates) and psychological dependence.

As I understand the current state of the science, overusing MDMA can hurt you, but that careful and occasional use generally will not.

As rhetorically pleasing as proportionality arguments are, they rarely win. So I’m unimpressed by the argument that alcohol causes more harm than MDMA, so MDMA should be made legal.
let by start by that MDMA is hands down the best high out of all the drugs ive tried. MDMA is the only drug ive even fallen in love with. That aside it should be anything but legal. i havent used in a year and a half after rolling 1-2 times a month for 4-5 years.

what made me quit doing the drug was after using for that long towards the last year it became hard to feel good about things. things that used to make me smile and laugh wouldnt its like i was just there. im sure if i rolled more responsibly i wouldnt have had those problems but lol at MDMA ever being legal it shouldnt.

haha i still miss dropping 250mgs throwing on a pair of headphones blasting some edm while the headphones melt to my ears and the musics flowing through my entire body all the while feeling like the king of the world. oh the good ole days
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01-10-2018 , 06:30 PM
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I, for one, am very interested in what your finished product is here and the process involved. Oh and also any usage reports. This looks like something I want to be holding.
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01-10-2018 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Those cookies were likely not very potent.

How much did you find?
about 10 gr.
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01-10-2018 , 06:39 PM
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I, for one, am very interested in what your finished product is here and the process involved. Oh and also any usage reports. This looks like something I want to be holding.
Greenies! And yes, im interested to.



Blue Moon, so youre saying it should be illegal based on your personal experience of no longer laughing at Family Guy or something?
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01-10-2018 , 06:40 PM
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about 10 gr.
You should totally concoct something. If you don't want to do baked goods, im not sure what else you could do.
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01-10-2018 , 06:55 PM
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Doubtful that HT was high as a kite while posting that. He seemed quite lucid and non spherical

Although fever-induced, that event was exactly what I envision a bad trip to be — a horrible thought-loop that you can’t control or immediately escape.

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01-10-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Although fever-induced, that event was exactly what I envision a bad trip to be — a horrible thought-loop than you can’t control or immediately escape.


That just about describes the only 2 times I've ever done mushrooms. Apparently not the drug for me
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01-10-2018 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blue moon
let by start by that MDMA is hands down the best high out of all the drugs ive tried. MDMA is the only drug ive even fallen in love with. That aside it should be anything but legal. i havent used in a year and a half after rolling 1-2 times a month for 4-5 years.



what made me quit doing the drug was after using for that long towards the last year it became hard to feel good about things. things that used to make me smile and laugh wouldnt its like i was just there. im sure if i rolled more responsibly i wouldnt have had those problems but lol at MDMA ever being legal it shouldnt.



haha i still miss dropping 250mgs throwing on a pair of headphones blasting some edm while the headphones melt to my ears and the musics flowing through my entire body all the while feeling like the king of the world. oh the good ole days

I don’t doubt that it has significant abuse potential. But I contend that threatening to put you in jail for making those choices is wrong as a matter of both policy and ethics. Also note that putting it on schedule I effectively precludes testing which might determine metrics for safe recreational usage or effectiveness in psychiatric treatment.
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01-10-2018 , 07:38 PM
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I, for one, am very interested in what your finished product is here and the process involved. Oh and also any usage reports. This looks like something I want to be holding.
finished product is infused coconut oil that has been put into 000 gelatin capsules.

Process:

1 - Decarb 2 ounces of trim (Lopez and Orr sells ounces of 20% THC trim for $53) (i also added ~7grams of random flower i had as well
2 - melt 4 cups of coconut oil in a crock pot
3 - Tie up the de-carb'd flower in a bundle of cheesecloth (i use one bundle per ounce and dress it so it lays flat in the oil)
4 - Add 1/4 cup water, 1 tablespoon lecithin, and wrapped up flower to the oil in the crock pot
5 - Monitor temp and keep between 210-230 for 4 hours
6 - remove oil from crock pot and place into a bowl to cool off, put the bowl in the fridge (take a shot of the oil if you like it is ready now)
6a - throw the bundles back in the crock pot with a cup of water and another tablespoon of lecithin and cook for another 2 hours then go back to step 6. The secondary yield will produce less oil and more water but it will separate overnight and the oil is still very potent
7 - remove condensed oil from the bowl and remove any water that collects in the bottom
8 - your oil is done store and consume how you like but i prefer buying 000 gel capsules, melt the oil and fill the caps, refrigerate and enjoy

My estimate is ~20mg of THC per pill but that is very crude estimate. I do know 5 pills gets me pretty toasty, 10 pills and i start not tracking reality, and 15 pills just puts me to sleep (the most restful sleep ever tho).

This is way cheaper then buying edibles here as they are usually $30 for 100mg of THC. Even at a 50% extraction i should be yielding ~5,000mg's of THC from ~$150 of cost.


Side note - I usually cook with at least half indica, i made one batch with all sativa and it was more psychedelic and didn't put me to bed
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01-10-2018 , 08:00 PM
Lapka, do what the other Big Hurt did. Itll get ya high.
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01-10-2018 , 08:02 PM
Seems like there should be a way to chemically reset your thc receptors. $100/pill, but each time you're a cannavirgin again.
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01-10-2018 , 08:16 PM
Cannabis tolerance is mediated by the receptors actually being absorbed into the cell, so not much hope on that front. You can speed up the process of tolerance reversal a bit by taking a cannabinoid antagonist, assuming the following sounds fun to you:

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Data from clinical trials submitted to regulatory authorities showed that rimonabant caused depressive disorders or mood alterations in up to 10% of subjects and suicidal ideation in around 1%, and in Europe it was contraindicated for people with any psychiatric disorder, including depressed or suicidal individuals.

Additionally, nausea and upper respiratory tract infections were very common (occurring in more than 10% of people) adverse effects; common adverse effects (occurring in between 1% and 10% of people) included gastroenteritis, anxiety, irritability, insomnia and other sleep disorders, hot flushes, diarrhea, vomiting, dry or itchy skin, tendonitis, muscle cramps and spasms, fatigue, flu-like symptoms, and increased risk of falling.

The FDA's advisory committee raised concerns that based on animal data, it appeared that the therapeutic window with regard to CNS toxicity, and specifically seizures was almost nonexistent; the therapeutic dose and the dose that caused seizures in animals appeared to be the same.
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01-10-2018 , 08:43 PM
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finished product is infused coconut oil that has been put into 000 gelatin capsules.

[detailed instructions]
Thanks for the information. I've been meaning to start making my own edibles (preferably gummies) and capsules for a while now so I appreciate hearing anyone else's methods. I really enjoy the edible high but it's laughable how expensive some of them are for what you get.

EDIT: Like $25 for a gummy with ~40mg total THC, give me a break with that.
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