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11-14-2012 , 03:02 PM
5 > 6 > 4 > whatever order. Actually 4 and 6 are probably about equal for me. I think 4 is a fantastic standalone film with a great story, but 6 scaled everything up and has a lot of advantage being the 3rd act.

Hard to compare anything against 5 though. Not only was the story great and well-paced, they made all the characters better and added a few great ones. Plus the designs looked incredible and unique which helped sell the whole thing.
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11-14-2012 , 03:37 PM
5>4>6>3>2>1

many of my fellow star wars geeks disagree. I really like the third. I like #6 a lot too and would rate it higher than 5 but I feel objectively that's just wrong.

I know I'll have trouble sleeping at night till 2015. ****ing Lucas.
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11-14-2012 , 03:54 PM
I just realized something truly horrifying. HORRIFYING!

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If owned by Disney the movies won't open with the 20th Century Fox fanfare


I don't think I will be able to watch the new movies
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11-14-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bremen
I just realized something truly horrifying. HORRIFYING!

Spoiler:
If owned by Disney the movies won't open with the 20th Century Fox fanfare


I don't think I will be able to watch the new movies
Impossible. That's part of the opening theme!
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11-14-2012 , 06:00 PM
I know, right?

Interestingly the fanfare itself was originally used for movies with some color technology noody cares about anymore and had fallen into disuse when, for whatever reason, it was used on Star Wars.
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11-14-2012 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GMan42
Pretty much, although one could still make an argument that 4>5 just because it works as a standalone movie, and was able to introduce all the characters so well while still having tons of memorable scenes. The battle of Yavin is still one of my favorite sequences in the whole series.
Yeah I agree, maybe go with: 4=5 >6>3>1>2
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11-14-2012 , 06:42 PM


I'd be fine with this just to see the ****storm Disney would get
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11-14-2012 , 07:07 PM
There's a rumor beginning to float that Darth Vader is going to be in episode 7....
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11-14-2012 , 07:17 PM
It like arguing which **** smells the worst but there is a case for 2 over 3. The whole Anakin joins the dark side is just horribly done and so is the NOOOOO scene at the end. Who wants to see Vader crying over a chick?
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11-14-2012 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UFO1947
There's a rumor beginning to float that Darth Vader is going to be in episode 7....
There will be lots of unsubstantiated rumors in the next couple years.

If it's post-RotJ, Anakin could appear as a force ghost. Since Obi-wan Kenobi appeared in ESB and RotJ, it seems like a normal story development.
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11-15-2012 , 01:53 AM
Anakin Skywalker is dead. Darth Vader no longer even exists. Ghost of Obi-Wan worked, the brief Yoda/Anakin worked as it was originally. Then there's ghost of Qui-Gon and ugggh please stop

If people just keep hanging around after death its going to cheapen things a lot. More so if they get into cloning key characters or something like that. Those villains are all dead in the films. Let Vader, Palpatine, Boba Fett, Maul all come back in the books and cartoons, I don't care. Even if you keep the old heroes at least come up with new bad guys.
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11-15-2012 , 03:01 AM
No need to get worked up Gonso. The script isn't even written yet. Someone might have suggested it in a brainstorming session but thankfully George Lucas isn't writing it, so the stupid ideas will mostly be ignored.
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11-15-2012 , 04:20 AM
I can't help but wonder if we'll ever get a complete rewrite (from scratch) of the prequels. I feel like there has to be a successful way to tell this back story that is as engaging as the original movies. I would love to see a completely new approach to telling the story (that basically takes nothing from the existing prequels, except the few key characters: Anakin, Obi-Wan, Palpatine and Yoda...everything else is ****ing wide open).

I guess now that Lucas has sold away his rights to Star Wars we are much more likely to eventually see this happen.
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11-15-2012 , 01:15 PM
Bremen I don't think it's possible for me to get worked up over it. I'm just looking at it from the perspective that it's been 30 years since the last time a good Star Wars movie was made. And that since then, they've milked the same old characters in every form of media possible. My brain's not going to explode if Mark Hamill shows up for a little bit, I'm just hoping the new people & Disney don't tap the old well too much. Especially wrt Vader/Anakin.
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11-15-2012 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Brandt
I can't help but wonder if we'll ever get a complete rewrite (from scratch) of the prequels. I feel like there has to be a successful way to tell this back story that is as engaging as the original movies. I would love to see a completely new approach to telling the story (that basically takes nothing from the existing prequels, except the few key characters: Anakin, Obi-Wan, Palpatine and Yoda...everything else is ****ing wide open).

I guess now that Lucas has sold away his rights to Star Wars we are much more likely to eventually see this happen.
Re-boots are not optimal. It's one thing to do a re-boot of comic book movies, because the comics themselves do re-boots periodically anyway. A reboot of Anakin would just be a waste of time.
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11-15-2012 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Hardcore fans will think it's blasphemy to discard the EU. Many think the novels are far superior to the films.


By the way, this book came out in paperback today. I'm thinking of picking it up.


This book has really good reviews on Amazon. But I picked it up and was disappointed in it.

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First off, the title is misleading. It's more the story of Palpatine than Darth Plagueis. Second, there's not much action. It's more a political thriller than about Palpatine and Plagueis badassing around the Galaxy. (If you want action, check out Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter). I guess that makes sense, since Palpatine was a Senator and Plagueis was a very well known banker, but it's still disappointing.

Plus you don't get any real insight into Palpatine. The Darth Bane trilogy did a much better job of getting into the head of a Sith Lord.

And the writing just seemed to be substandard quality. Not anything like egregious grammar errors, just really simple writing.

It's not a terrible book and is probably a book that fans of the Expanded Universe should read. But it's not a must read for casual Star Wars fans.
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11-15-2012 , 01:48 PM
I disagree. There are huge problems with the story that a reboot could fix or minimize. There is new technology that would improve the visuals of the movies. I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but saying it's a waste of time gives too much preciousness to the originals. More than they deserve.
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11-15-2012 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Brandt
I can't help but wonder if we'll ever get a complete rewrite (from scratch) of the prequels.
Anything's possible, but it doesn't seem likely. I'm in the camp that didn't see the need for the prequels in first place. I just accepted that the force worked, that Obi-Wan & Yoda were old war heroes, and that Darth Vader was once a good guy. It told the story while leaving some things for you to wonder about.

Now, thanks to the prequels, I know that the force actually comes from midichlorians in your cells. I also know General Kenobi rocked a mullet and that Yoda looks like a frog when he fights. Vader was apparently a good guy at 9 years old, I guess, but that didn't last too long. And I really liked how the prequels maintained the cool factor and mystery to one of the best bit characters in the series, Boba Fett.

No doubt a complete reworking would result in much better films, but not sure what purpose it would serve. The energy you spend remaking those could be put to making new ones instead.
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11-15-2012 , 01:55 PM
Unfortunately, it's always safer remaking old movies rather than making new ones... at least in Hollywood.
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11-15-2012 , 02:03 PM
Not that it would ever happen, but I'd be on board for a complete rewrite of episodes 1-3.
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11-15-2012 , 03:09 PM
Instead of all that why not just keep it to one prequel film? 2h 10m is enough time to cover the fall of Skywalker and still leave more time for pre-suit Vader if you do it right.

When you look at prequels as they are, there was nothing really essential about Episodes 1 or 2 at all, and Ep 3 wasted a lot of time. You'd have to establish Anakin as a good character then turn him evil, flesh out Palpatine as a corrupter and bad guy on the rise, probably with a throwaway apprentice, have a Obi-Wan/Vader fight at some point, establish the Jedi and at least start killing them off, and then make time for a love interest. One movie could easily cover that.

That's assuming you're not too busy with pointless time-wasters like little boys building robots, podraces, detective stories on who's trying to kill Padme, Gungan-Droid battles, senate meetings, unnecessary lightsaber fights between or including minor characters, and so on. (I like lightsaber fights like the next guy, but there were more of those in Ep 6 than the originals had combined.)
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11-15-2012 , 03:28 PM
Whatever, I am glad there is at least something SW to talk about. The way Lucas was talking the last couple of years I figured it could be a long while. They were talking about a TV show but that didn't seem to be going anywhere. Hopefully it will result in something young kids today can appreciate in the way that I did... I remember taking a friend and her son to Episode 2 back when that came out, and the kid fell asleep halfway through. From kids' perspective Disney's probably the best place for the franchise. See what happens I guess. Gonna be a long 3 years.
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11-15-2012 , 03:31 PM
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Instead of all that why not just keep it to one prequel film? 2h 10m is enough time to cover the fall of Skywalker and still leave more time for pre-suit Vader if you do it right.
Yeah this would work too.

Which reminds me this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1454526.html

and the many other fan edits which have chopped the prequals down significantly. Which reminds me, I should really watch the Fall of the Jedi fan edits.

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Like many fanedits before it, my version aims to cut bad acting, bad dialog and streamline the film. I’ve also attempted (to) bring the prequels in alignment with the original trilogy by cutting anything that broke continuity. I really want viewers to be able to watch Episodes 1-6, in order, without having key moments in the later films spoiled. Anakin no longer is C3PO’s creator. In fact, C3PO and R2D2 are no longer major (minor?) characters in the PT. They are now just like any other droid. They do have minor dialog here or there, but they are never referenced by name nor are their roles significant.

Last edited by SL__72; 11-15-2012 at 03:40 PM.
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11-15-2012 , 05:15 PM
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and the many other fan edits which have chopped the prequals down significantly. Which reminds me, I should really watch the Fall of the Jedi fan edits.

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Like many fanedits before it, my version aims to cut bad acting, bad dialog and streamline the film. I’ve also attempted (to) bring the prequels in alignment with the original trilogy by cutting anything that broke continuity. I really want viewers to be able to watch Episodes 1-6, in order, without having key moments in the later films spoiled.
I don't think that's necessarily a good thing to do. The entire purpose of the prequel trilogy is to tell the story of how the original trilogy happened. In order to make it watchable from start to end, you have to eliminate all mention of Anakin's last name, all mentions of Amidala's pregnancy and any mention of Luke's father's name (I haven't watched in a while, but I believe that Obi Wan mentions Anakin's name to Luke in episode 4).

While all that's possible, I'm not sure it's desirable. You go from a movie made in 2005, with the graphical advancements that have occurred, then go to a movie made in 1977, including the (relatively) bad special effects and hairstyle. The effect would be jarring.
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11-16-2012 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Gonso
Now, thanks to the prequels, I know that the force actually comes from midichlorians in your cells. I also know General Kenobi rocked a mullet and that Yoda looks like a frog when he fights. Vader was apparently a good guy at 9 years old, I guess, but that didn't last too long. And I really liked how the prequels maintained the cool factor and mystery to one of the best bit characters in the series, Boba Fett.
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When you look at prequels as they are, there was nothing really essential about Episodes 1 or 2 at all, and Ep 3 wasted a lot of time. You'd have to establish Anakin as a good character then turn him evil, flesh out Palpatine as a corrupter and bad guy on the rise, probably with a throwaway apprentice, have a Obi-Wan/Vader fight at some point, establish the Jedi and at least start killing them off, and then make time for a love interest. One movie could easily cover that.

That's assuming you're not too busy with pointless time-wasters like little boys building robots, podraces, detective stories on who's trying to kill Padme, Gungan-Droid battles, senate meetings, unnecessary lightsaber fights between or including minor characters, and so on. (I like lightsaber fights like the next guy, but there were more of those in Ep 6 than the originals had combined.)
You're arguing that a rebooted prequel trilogy is a mistake because of how awful the existing prequel trilogy is, which is exactly why we're talking about a prequel trilogy reboot. Considering how terrible the prequels ended up being obviously just leaving that story untold is by far the better option, but what if they didn't suck? Could have been pretty...pretty.....pretty good!
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