Stormtroopers loved funneling themselves into kill zones.

"Hey guys, let's step through this doorway one at a time while the rebels are shooting straight down the hallway at us!"

I disagree. The prequels on the whole weren't all that good, but what allowed them to still be interesting to watch was that we wanted to see how everything in Episodes 4-6 came to be. They would have been a lot worse if the originals didn't come first.

I remember there being a brief discussion once on here about which order to show someone the movies if they had never seen any of them. 4-5-6-1-2-3 was the consensus.

The whole point of prequels is that we want to see the story behind the story. Though the Star Wars prequels weren't particularly well done, I think most people were still interested to see the build up to Episode 4 and especially how Anakin became Darth Vader. Knowing Anakin became the GOAT villain made the prequels much more interesting than they would've been if those films actually came first.

Harison Ford said he's open to returning as Han solo

You'd think that the Evil Genius Palpatine would put better protection for the only shield for their main base than a single squad of stormtroopers.

What....this is short of pathetic thinking

I thought about it. I think Julius Caesar getting whacked by his closest friends is pretty close. Or, you know, Palpatine getting got by his own apprentice in the world we're discussing. If that's not good enough to satisfy "absurdly perfect" as far as characters go, then maybe Jesus getting betrayed by Judas will do. In fact there seems to be a lot of precedent for strong fan-favorite characters suddenly being betrayed by those close to them if you actually do think about it.

Or is that just pathetic thinking?

[PS - The books are 20 years old and I don't see much point in the spoiler tags. Spoiler alert for your trip to Wiki: Julius Caesar dies]

Like Raiders of the Lost Ark and Empire Strikes Back.

Well with the Executor and problably 2 sector fleets sitting around an operational death star no one would be stupido enough to drop a team on the planet.

Call it.... a mere case of over confidence

^ Exactly

OMG who's julius caesar chavez yoouuurr sooooo smartttttt... who be does characters ?????

Absurdly perfect characters do not have character flaws. You called him absurdly perfect. Stop trying to rationalize you said that something stupid.

oh and LOL at Jesus and Julius Caesar Chavesz being absurdly perfect.

get over it you said something silly the end move on


EDIT : nevermind you thinking Jesus is perfect explains a lot TYVM

I wasn't the poster who made the original post, so let me quote this goofup before you delete it. Thanks for the laugh though, your deep thoughts and attempts to insult others are always fun.

Some may enjoy this. It's a transcript of a meeting between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the initial formulation of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com...onference.html

It also shows the utility Lucas can have in the new movies, serving peripherally, like Gus and Gonso spoke of earlier in this thread.

fyp

RIP Tarkin

Very underrated villain imo. Although I think Cushing got top billing after Hammill/Fisher/Ford in the closing credits of ep4...

So this is official now. I don't know him but he did Toy Story 3 and Little Miss Sunshine,

Seems like a good resume for a young guy. And Kathleen Kennedy's no slouch herself in getting movies made, so I'm sure she'll find the right director. And casting director, too. The one GL had for two of the prequels was a wtf choice.

Actually is there really any chance that the writing + directing + casting doesn't improve? Even if the movie still sucks? It's hard for me to imagine dialogue worse than "I don't like sand," or casting decisions worse than Hayden Christensen in a lead role. I'm much more worried about Disney making SW more "family friendly" and casting some chump from Twilight, or just a dumb story.

That's why I am optimistic. While I doubt they will reach the heights of ep 4-6, how could they possibly be worse than ep 1-3?

It'd be pretty tough with the resources they'll throw at it. But then again, Disney spent like $300m to make John Carter, so the low end of the range is pretty awful.

Happy to take a chance though. The alternative is Even Older George Lucas making more or just having the franchise sit in limbo. Disney's not a terrible place for it to be so long as they don't go out of their way to aim it at little kids or hire Michael Bay.

I haven't seen John Carter, but I've heard the movie is actually pretty solid, but was just marketed horribly and found no audience. Needless to say, that won't be an issue with a new SW movie.

pretty unsurprising but it also makes compete sense, as discussed itt

I thought it was plain bad. I'm not even sure who to blame the most for it, and I had the full theater experience.

It's possible that I was a little irritable that day. I was only in the theater because my car was getting worked on across the street. They called me to come pick it up, she comes up on her lunch break to drive me over to the mechanic and drop me off. I get there and they got my car confused with someone else's. Had no place else to go.

But still the movie was forgettable. In fact all I can remember now is a lot of jumping, McNulty looking dumb, and wtf Martians?

Film Crit Hulk on John Carter:

http://badassdigest.com/2012/04/08/f...carter-script/

I have a bad feeling about this...

They have a great chance to make this a true reboot and introduce us to new memorable characters. Instead, they're gonna play it super safe and go with the warm-and-fuzzy "remember these guys?" vibe.

And no offense to any of the original actors, but I do wonder what kind of energy and authenticity they can bring to the characters at this point. I mean, I think Harrison Ford is great, for example, but there was something about his performance in Indiana Jones 4 (beyond the awful script) that was just...off. After so many years away from the characters, I think something just gets lost along the way.

And the "a number of other characters" reappearing just has me picturing a bunch of self-aware cameos that are just there for the hardcore fans and add nothing to the story. Like "hey, look at that guy in the background, everybody...it's Wedge!"


Hmm, maybe I'm the one that's irritable now...I think eps 1-3 made me very cynical about the handling of the franchise.

If I remember correctly the guys who made the film thought everyone read those John Carter of Mars books all the time and were surprised when that wasn't the case.

Yeah, seems pretty dumb to me too. Something like Superman Returns is pretty much the textbook case of what happens when you try to build a movie in this day and age upon nostalgia and throwbacks, nobody really hates it but its just kind of 'meh'.

For the same reason I really hope they ditch the John Williams score for these next movies, I know they're classic and definitive, but at a certain point a franchise has to move on. The Danny Elfman 'Batman' theme was awesome but Nolan's Batman made a clean break and was that much better for it.

I see what you're getting at but, yeah, no way that is going to happen.

Also, comparing the Star Wars score to the Batman movies doesn't really make sense. Tim Burton and Danny Elfman didn't create Batman, just one take on it (and it was a good one). They already changed the score when Joel Schumacher took over. No one expected to hear Danny Elfman's Batman theme at the beginning of Batman Begins.

The amount of butthurt that would commence if they ditched all the major Star Wars themes for these new movies would be amazing. The original score is one of the only things that really connects all these piles of ****, errr movies, together.