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11-01-2012 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonso
instead of going back to that well (again), they could rewrite some new occupations into badasses.
Episode 7 confirmed featuring badass boiling oat runners.
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11-01-2012 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
No one, not even George Lucas, has any clue what episode 7 will be about. Lucas may have an idea for it, but he's not in charge any more.
he's not in charge but apparently what he passed on was a pretty detailed treatment.

as long as they want to keep him along to work with, I doubt they will completely trash his concepts. he's probably a really valuable guy to have on their team, but not someone they want to give complete power to
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11-01-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonso
Anyone remember this? GOAT Episode 1 review:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/s...hantom-menace/
that is awesome

but it actually largely refutes what you listed #1 as most important - lightsabers. go back and watch A New Hope and ESB, and it's comical how tiny those lightsaber battles were compared to the prequels. you actually had characters you hated and loved and a plot that was so simple and immersive, that ultimately the sword fights they had were much more about the characters and emotion than the choreography and people flipping around.
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11-01-2012 , 10:29 PM
I'd be happy with a Star Trekesque reboot. New actors, same characters, clean up the story and kick ass cgi.
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11-01-2012 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I'd be happy with a Star Trekesque reboot. New actors, same characters, clean up the story and kick ass cgi.
that's kind of what they already did. (or tried to do)

The prequels kept many of the same characters, just showed them in their youth and changed the actors, and told the backstory. basically what Star Trek did, only they did it well of course
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11-02-2012 , 02:39 AM
Regardless of plot I'd love this fella to make an appearance. My username is partly a homage

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11-02-2012 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by I_AM_EVIL
Would any SW fans want to see side arcs like the story of Han(stuff with Jabba/bounty hunters/Lando) before hooking up with Luke and Leia or Leia after being separated from Luke at birth(not sure this would be interesting enough)?

I think a movie about Han's story would be cool and packed full of action.
Please god no.

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Originally Posted by ianlippert
This is one of the main problems with the new movies, how are you going to create conflict that can compare to that of the fight between the rebellion And the empire? Rebuilding the jedis/Republic sounds good in theory but how would you make this interesting? I think it would be far more interesting if the destruction of the empire actually destroyed the order in the galaxy and the story is placed within some sort of civil war centered around coroscant.

Rebuilding the Jedi order is goIng to be in there but it not like we can go from one Jedi (Luke) to the size the order had in the prequels. I think it needs to be a struggle to reform the order.

These movies will end up taking one of two routes. Either they pander to the fans and try and stuff as much star wars junk into the movies or they create something entirely new. The problem with pandering is that once you start down that route you have to include the whole range of creatures/characters/themes from the other trilogies to satiate the disparate preferences of the fan boys and eventually once you stuff it with jedis, bounty hunters, space ships, wookies, smugglers, walkers, etc, etc, etc, etc you end up with a movie that's entirely too generic and indistinguishable from the other trilogies.

Hopefully they learnt the lesson of the prequels and actually try and produce as much new material as possible with a humorous nod here or there. The fastest way to make another mediocre trilogy is to pander to the fan boys. What made the original trilogy so good was that it was constantly blowing your mind with new locations and character as the main characters played out a well developed and interesting story arc.

I am cautiously optimistic but I am not going to be surprised if this ends up being another mediocre star wars product ala prequels, SWTOR, clone wars, 99% of the books and comics.
Good post.

I hope they go with the all new character route. Maybe a minor role for a 120 year old Luke or Leia as jedi master to bridge the timeline and give backstory. Possibly add a scene with a busted up c3po tottering around the jedi temple, something like that. Anything more would be painful to watch.

Lucas spent so much time in the prequels paying homage to himself that it was almost unwatchable. A clean break will give so many more possibilities.
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11-02-2012 , 06:26 AM
STAR WARSSSSSSSSS WOOOOOOOP!, BY GOD I HOPE WE ARE STILL HERE IN 2015!!!!!
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11-02-2012 , 06:57 AM
I'd like them to add a little flashback scene in which Jar Jar Binks was revealed to be a traitor and executed or died in some gory accident involving a combine harvester.
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11-02-2012 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
I'd like them to add a little flashback scene in which Jar Jar Binks was revealed to be a traitor and executed or died in some gory accident involving a combine harvester.
Lovley idea. Add to that a small part where the whole planet of Jar Jar species gets blown up and none of them survives.....

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Or mebbe a huge intergalactic combine harvester demolishes it.....
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11-02-2012 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wholecut
that's kind of what they already did. (or tried to do)

The prequels kept many of the same characters, just showed them in their youth and changed the actors, and told the backstory. basically what Star Trek did, only they did it well of course
I don't think the prequels where any kind of reboot and the story was pretty awful. Tell 4, 5, and 6 again without Luke and Leia being siblings, without cute teddy bears defeating tanks and the other dumb things in the story.
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11-02-2012 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Tell 4, 5, and 6 again without Luke and Leia being siblings, without cute teddy bears defeating tanks and the other dumb things in the story.
I want this to happen just for the entertainment of a decade of nerds freaking out.
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11-02-2012 , 08:34 AM
Make Dash Randar the central character.
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11-02-2012 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I don't think the prequels where any kind of reboot and the story was pretty awful. Tell 4, 5, and 6 again without Luke and Leia being siblings, without cute teddy bears defeating tanks and the other dumb things in the story.
reboots are only needed when the current storyline has played out in such a way that continuing it is untenable

for instance the Clooney Batman - there's no way anybody could pick up from there. or the jazz dancing Spiderman. or the Hulk movie that nobody saw and was awful to begin with.

I'm not even sure the Star Trek movie was a reboot in the traditional sense - it told a backstory that afaik did not already exist (or certainly didn't exist in Star Trek movies). I think it's much more prequel then reboot, though I understand there are elements of both. I know there are some things that changed with Pike but only super hardcore fans would know this. and since the characters in the current movies are so much younger than the TV show characters, it's believable that the Pine Kirk and the Shatner Kirk are the same guy. Nimoy coming back to play Spock is evidence of this as well.

anyways, the bolded isn't the case with Star Wars since the storyline for the terrible prequels has already reached the end of its arc. they could pick up 1 day after ROTJ and create a great story or pick it up 100 years after - either way there aren't all these terrible legacy things they need to write around.

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11-02-2012 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wholecut
I'm not even sure the Star Trek movie was a reboot in the traditional sense - it told a backstory that afaik did not already exist (or certainly didn't exist in Star Trek movies). I think it's much more prequel then reboot, though I understand there are elements of both. I know there are some things that changed with Pike but only super hardcore fans would know this
You watched the part where they blew up Vulcan, right?
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11-02-2012 , 05:47 PM
well alright it had elements of both a prequel and a reboot. but what Kerowo was proposing was far different than that.

I think we could all agree that this years Spiderman was much more a reboot than the Abrams Star Trek
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11-02-2012 , 06:16 PM
People say the prequel trilogy was bad. However, when I saw ep 3, I thought it was the best of the six and after a couple of more viewings I thought it was for sure at least 2nd or 3rd best. Now, it's been years since I've seen that movie, but it has to be regarded as being the lone bright spot from the prequels and possibly better than one or two of the originals, no?
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11-02-2012 , 06:22 PM
I don't think ROTS > ROTJ is a very controversial statement
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11-02-2012 , 06:22 PM
Personally, I didn't think ep3 was that great, but it was definitely better than ep1/ep2, which I can't even differentiate at this point. I give 4 a slight nod over 6 since it was groundbreaking for its time, even though the dialog is pretty awful (and I love how Carrie Fisher switched from an English accent to a California accent partway through the movie). 5 is the best of the bunch, imo.

5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 1/2
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11-02-2012 , 06:29 PM
3 is clearly the best of the prequels, but the scenes with Grievous seem completely unnecessary to the story. In fact, much of that movie is unnecessary.

I applaud Lucas for finally strapping on a pair and going PG-13 with it, especially with killing the Younglings. I have a hard time getting past Christiansen's terrible acting, though.

The cold reality is if Lucas has any real amount of control as to what this story is about, it's going to suck hard. I'm fully prepared to get my hopes up and my heart broken again.
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11-02-2012 , 08:56 PM
hmm, i thought ep 1, was the best of the prequels. liam neeson and darth maul were pretty cool.
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11-02-2012 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HollywoodHogan
People say the prequel trilogy was bad. However, when I saw ep 3, I thought it was the best of the six and after a couple of more viewings I thought it was for sure at least 2nd or 3rd best. Now, it's been years since I've seen that movie, but it has to be regarded as being the lone bright spot from the prequels and possibly better than one or two of the originals, no?
Wrong.

Go watch red letter media's critique for an explanation. Episode one was terrible and episode 2-3 were fairly mediocre. While each of prequel ls had their moments each one has serious problems with characterization and plot development.
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11-02-2012 , 10:56 PM
I can't put any prequel movie near any original. The prequels at best had some small moments that were visually cool. Maul/Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon worked, Maul's speeder dismount thing, Ep 3 where the jedi are betrayed, and a handful of other moments. Otherwise it was just a sea of babbling nonsense draped over CG.

People talk about Episode 3 as standing out but I don't see it, not even against the other bad prequels. The Emperor went from a devious and pretty cool bad guy to a goofy oddball. Obi-Wan had little personality. Queen had none at all. The much-hyped fight scene was on the verge of boring. Not only did they shoehorn in more senseless political babble and Jar Jar Binks in Ep 3, they managed to do both in the same scene which is basically trolling. Female lead loses will to live according to a robot. And Christensen... he was so terrible he made Mark Hamill look like Marlon Brando. The Anakin character was horribly written and was more whiney dumbass than some tragic hero.

Of the originals ROTJ is often considered the weakest, but all in all it's still a pretty solid film. Yeah there's Ewoks and whatnot but it makes sense as a story. You've got characters with believable struggles and drama. You knew where everybody was at and you could understand why they did things.

I'd say the originals were visually stronger too especially design wise too. Take an X-Wing, Y-Wing, an AT-AT, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Boba Fett's ship, or the Millennium Falcon as examples. Find things in the prequels that look as good, even in cases where they're just reworked designs. Darth Maul looked pretty cool... what else? The lightsaber action in Ep. 1 was generally good too. That colorful flora planet blue jedi girl got killed on maybe. Not much else.
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11-02-2012 , 11:01 PM
short Mark Hamill interview: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/3...de-vii-disney/

Doesn't really say much, other than that George Lucas told him and Carrie Fisher back in August that the new movies were going to be made.
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11-02-2012 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I don't think the prequels where any kind of reboot and the story was pretty awful. Tell 4, 5, and 6 again without Luke and Leia being siblings, without cute teddy bears defeating tanks and the other dumb things in the story.
I don't think those movies need any more fixing. They weren't flawless but they worked.

They're unlikely to improve by remaking them anyway. So maybe get rid of the Ewoks and fix a few things, okay. But then, who will voice Vader in way that improves it over James Earl Jones? Who will write a better score then what Williams did? How would you make Han Solo better? And do you tool with the original trilogy designs, or just copy them outright? There's a lot more that can be ruined than there is to fix.
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