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10-05-2023 , 01:19 AM
What a dumpster fire Ahsoka was. Rotten from start to finish. It felt like the first act of a movie, stretched out over 6 hours.

Thrawn was a joke when he showed up - literally Dr Evil.

Ray Stevenson was the only redeeming feature, and Baylan the only character with any kind of drama. I assume they will recast him for S2, but my Disney subscription will be going in the bin long before then.
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10-05-2023 , 10:33 AM
I heard the streaming numbers for Ahsoka were even worse than the undeserving-but-awful numbers that Andor got, so I dunno if I'd even count on another season.

Thankfully I mostly got out early with this ****, after finding Mando mediocre at best and tapping out partway through S2. Didn't watch BoBF, Mando S3, or Ahsoka. Did make the mistake of watching Kenobi without waiting for reviews because I desperately wanted it to be good, but that was an unpolishable turd.

At this point I'll watch Andor S2 for sure, anything else I'm waiting for the full season to come out and see if people I trust actually liked it. I never thought I'd hit the point where the franchise is on life support for me, but here we are.
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10-05-2023 , 12:08 PM
Didn't finish Andor or Boba, loved Mando. Watched all of Ahsoka, enjoyed it. YMMV, I guess.
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10-05-2023 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
What a dumpster fire Ahsoka was. Rotten from start to finish. It felt like the first act of a movie, stretched out over 6 hours.

Thrawn was a joke when he showed up - literally Dr Evil.

Ray Stevenson was the only redeeming feature, and Baylan the only character with any kind of drama. I assume they will recast him for S2, but my Disney subscription will be going in the bin long before then.
Pretty much all the clips I’ve seen from this show look downright comical at best and mostly pure awful. Even Thrawn looked dorky. The leper king Stormtrooper guy looked cool though.

I can’t imagine looking forward to any more SW content after S2 of Andor, which is a sad state of affairs.

Maybe my old grumpy ass is just out of touch. Could be wrong, but it seems like this dumb show was actually received well by those who were into the cartoons, so who knows.
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10-06-2023 , 11:26 AM
Ahsoka had some interesting parts (Baylan, Young Jacen, Huyang). M.E.W did well as Hera, in limited time. R.D. as Ahsoka seemed completely flat, without any of the fire I associate with that character.
Sabine was a mess, and her force use a joke. From 0 to 100. Late season Game of Thrones tv show bad.
Ezra was a complete non entity. No nothing there.

I'll keep watching everything, because I love the universe and can ignore the bad parts. I was hoping for more from Filoni.
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10-06-2023 , 02:27 PM
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Ahsoka had some interesting parts (Baylan, Young Jacen, Huyang). M.E.W did well as Hera, in limited time. R.D. as Ahsoka seemed completely flat, without any of the fire I associate with that character.
Sabine was a mess, and her force use a joke. From 0 to 100. Late season Game of Thrones tv show bad.
Ezra was a complete non entity. No nothing there.

I'll keep watching everything, because I love the universe and can ignore the bad parts. I was hoping for more from Filoni.
I'll say that I liked Ezra here simply because he wasn't grating like cartoon Ezra was. Obviously makes sense since cartoon Ezra was a kid and this is years later. But you're not wrong that he was pretty much a blank slate.

Mostly agree with the rest, though I do understand the character interpretation that Ahsoka is scarred by the events of her life and that it makes sense she would be a lot more withdrawn than she was as a padawan.

The announcement of an eventual Thrawn-based movie did this show no favors since it completely nerfed any perceived stakes of Thrawn's arc here.
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10-07-2023 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Mostly agree with the rest, though I do understand the character interpretation that Ahsoka is scarred by the events of her life and that it makes sense she would be a lot more withdrawn than she was as a padawan.
I could buy this interpretation if every character/performance bar Baylan wasn't completely monotone. It's just really bad direction to make so many characters completely bland and emotionless.
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10-08-2023 , 10:46 PM
Rosario Dawson ****ing sucks as Ahsoka. What a terrible performance. Even worse for anyone who has seen any of Rebels.

Baylan and his blonde underling staging something could have been interesting but that went absolutely nowhere.

The witches felt totally out of place to me in the star wars universe. That wasn't the force... so it was just some other straight up magic?

Ezra was so disappointing. Really underwhelming character.

Starwhales? Really? So where in the star wars universe are normal whales?

And maybe this complaint is just my imagination, but why did the CGI feel so much clunkier than in Mandalorian and Andor? Space warfare/flying scenes looked bad.
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10-08-2023 , 10:50 PM
Almost forgot - lolSabine. Nothing about her character made any sense whatsoever.
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10-09-2023 , 03:33 AM
Agree with most of that.

I wanted to love it, but something just seemed off and it was just ok.

The Ahsoka character is really interesting in Rebels, and I thought Dawson's brief cameos in Mando showed promise, but in the end we just got another wise, boring Jedi archetype whereas the character showed a lot of spark and sass in the cartoon.

Thrawn character was also a bit underwhelming. Like they wanted to make him sound profound and like a military genius, but didn't have Zahn writing so it sounded silly. I wasn't paying a ton of attention near the end but didn't he say something like "Ahsoka (and friends) are now completely unable to reach us...which is precisely why we're going to attack". Made zero sense if they're no longer a threat and you're ready to leave the planet/universe for good anyway.

But then Ahsoka and Co. rode those horse/rat things a few km and ended up reaching them anyway?
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10-09-2023 , 01:50 PM
I don't profess to be an expert on the lore or anything, but it seemed like the Sabine/Ezra reunion should have been highly emotional with him pulling back questioning what she had to do to get there because he sensed all kinds of conflict through The Force.

Instead, there was literally no interaction between the two of them regarding the events leading directly to her being there other than handwaving, "It's complicated..."

Maybe Filoni is playing 4-D chess in that, it's such a love letter to George Lucas that he included unrealistic and awkward interpersonal interactions

Also, just establish early on that Thrawn's troopers are virtually all empty husks because so many of them died in the intervening time so that in the climactic battle, Our Jedi Heroes can cut arms and legs off willy-nilly to prevent being overwhelmed and just have green clouds escape the empty armor
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10-09-2023 , 02:16 PM
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there was literally no interaction between the two of them regarding the events leading directly to her being there other than handwaving, "It's complicated..."
Exactly! That didn't make any sense. Why would she not explain the situation at all?
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10-10-2023 , 11:21 AM
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Exactly! That didn't make any sense. Why would she not explain the situation at all?
Spoiler:

"Hey Ezra, I just undid everything you dedicated 10 years of your life to achieve. Sorry about that. But I'm here."

She could at least attempt to lie. "We followed these bad people who were coming for Thrawn. And we found you! Isn't the force amazing that way! Now help us stop them."

"Oh yeah, I'm training to be a Jedi, even though everyone agrees I have no sense of the Force. But you never reeaaaallly know"
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10-16-2023 , 09:27 AM
Thankfully the internet has rescued this from the dumpster fire left by Ahsoka

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02-09-2024 , 02:30 AM
Obi Wan season 2! Hopefully better than season 1.
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02-09-2024 , 11:22 AM
Eww. Link? All I'm seeing is a ****ton of speculation based on Ewan MacGregor saying he'd be open to it or whatever.
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02-09-2024 , 12:07 PM
If Obi Wan season 2 was greenlit, I assume McGregor would have specifically talked about that on Monday night when he was on Jimmy Kimmel at ABC which is also owned by Disney?

With Andor season 2 pushed back to (at least) 2025 I wouldn't hold my breath about anything officially announced soon.
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02-10-2024 , 12:37 AM
What a ****show Disney is right now. They spent so much time and effort on vanity projects they can't even get the only decent Star Wars show left out on schedule.

In other news ELON might buy Disney and is funding Gina Carano's lawsuit for being fired for having the wrong political views.

Go ELON.
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02-10-2024 , 11:35 AM
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What a ****show Disney is right now. They spent so much time and effort on vanity projects they can't even get the only decent Star Wars show left out on schedule.
The show that does best for them financially is the one that gets the movie treatment now.

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In other news ELON might buy Disney and is funding Gina Carano's lawsuit for being fired for having the wrong political views.
That's obviously a publicity stunt. If there was any realistic chance of Carano winning the lawsuit or getting a settlement she would have had a line of lawyers trying to take the case and get a piece of that.

Carano first bailed on a million bucks to fight Ronda Rousey to focus on her movie career instead and sabotaged it with her social media activity when it finally was starting to take off. Now she basically has to chum up to the right wing crowd because nobody else is going to pay her.
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02-11-2024 , 02:07 AM
FWIW I don't agree with most of the posts that got Carano into trouble, but they are no worse than Pedro Pascal's, they are just not to Disney's taste.

And lets face it, Disney deserve a kicking. They are quite happy to drive Marvel and Star Wars off a cliff by hiring box-ticking writers and directors, so it's good to see them setting fire to billions of dollars with one failing project after another.
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02-11-2024 , 11:20 AM
As a guy who loves (loved) the franchise, it's unfortunately not much comfort to see Disney shitting the bed like this.

With any other company there would be hope that this accelerates the process of giving up, cutting their losses and selling it to someone that would treat it competently, but Disney is insanely unlikely to do that. If it gets bad enough they probably just shelve it completely, or more likely they continue to **** out content that no one asked for, filling it with memberberries and little moments that try to prop up Episodes 7-9 and show "how it's all interconnected and this helps explain how it was all meticulously planned after all and really you have to consume all the content to really understand the complexity of modern SW" lol.
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02-11-2024 , 11:48 AM
the question isnt whether or not Disney buys Lucas... we know that story.
the question is, is someone going to buy Disney?
and I think we know who that might be.
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02-11-2024 , 11:56 AM
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As a guy who loves (loved) the franchise, it's unfortunately not much comfort to see Disney shitting the bed like this.

With any other company there would be hope that this accelerates the process of giving up, cutting their losses and selling it to someone that would treat it competently, but Disney is insanely unlikely to do that.
Disney had a tremendous amount of commercial failures over the last couple years but I don't think anything Star Wars is among them. They made the smart decision to pause movies after the Solo and Episode IX failure. I have no idea how much money they actually spend on the Disney+ shows but everything looks pretty cheap. Meanwhile they keep printing on theme park attractions and merch.

Where Disney is bleeding money is on absurdly expensive movies that nobody wants to see like Haunted Mansion.

Probably also a smart decision to have Mando & Grogu as the next movie. If that one misfires they might stop releasing big screen stuff for another decade.
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02-11-2024 , 12:15 PM
They also committed to a big screen Rey trilogy, which no one wants. Well, committed in so far as every other franchise than announces a trilogy and then shelves it when the first movie bombs.
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02-11-2024 , 12:52 PM
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They also committed to a big screen Rey trilogy, which no one wants. Well, committed in so far as every other franchise than announces a trilogy and then shelves it when the first movie bombs.
"Committed" might be too strong of a word. In addition to that Rey movie they also announced a James Mangold and a Dave Filoni movie. We already know one of those 3 isn't happening, at least not in the slots of May 2026, December 2026 and December 2027 that Disney blocked for Star Wars movies.

Maybe The Mandalorian & Grogu makes it to May 2026. But with everything else being delayed I wouldn't be suprised if the May 26 slot goes to a non-Star Wars movie, Mando arrives Christmas 26 and one of the other 3 announced projects gets the Christmas 27 slot.
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