Meatsabre lol

So good I had to share with my womp rat friends... kinda like Ahsoka that one night.

I remember reading that Andor was good so I watched it. Boy is the bar low right now

Nope, Andor is indeed great in relation to all TV, not just Star Wars.

First 2 eps are out

Yup, I dug the start of the series. Definitely interested in seeing how the broader public reacts since I assume most people tuning in haven't watched Rebels and don't have any previous viewer relationship to Hera and Sabine, and going in cold like that will just be an entirely different experience.

Great start, feels like Rebels S5. The score on IMDB so far is insanely good (8.9) so hopefully a sign that casualfan is getting behind it. Only negatives for me: I can't really get behind the new Hera, voice is different and appearance just seems off somehow. Also, more ambiguity with lightsaber wounds. Some people disintegrate, some die eventually, and for Sabine it felt like a mere flesh wound.

Early IMDb scores, especially on franchise stuff, are going to be skewed hard by the existing franchise fanbase who was waiting to pounce the second this stuff dropped. The immediate scores are always inflated, but I think it's more so with franchise-based shows. That said, the early score gives it a fighting chance to settle in with a low 8.x score even after things stabilize a bit.

I agree that the live-action translation of Hera is slightly rough.

Looks like Boba debuted at 8.0 and Obi at 8.3, so already quite a bit ahead of those.

Pretty silly that Andor is now at 8.4 compared to 8.9 for Mandalorian. I'd say Andor is a 9.5 and Mandalorian a 7.5.

Serious question: If I never watched any of the cartoons, and honestly haven't enjoyed any of the live action TV stuff other than Andor (I thought Mando S1 was passable at best), is there any point in my even checking this out?

Probably not, based on your other opinions.

Opening puzzle sequence: The Sith Element #multipass

Question about Sabine, maybe mild spoiler

Was pretty non-plussed about Ashoka. All very generic, chasing MacGuffins, an obligatory lightsabre fight each episode and yet another miraculous recovery after a lightsabre in the belly.

It's basically a 2 hour movie fleshed out over 4-5 hours as no one would pay to see it in the cinema at this point.

I'll probably see it through, but my Disney subscription will be going once it's done - combination of the price rise and very poor new content compared with other streaming services.

I don’t doubt the cartoons are very good, but I never got into them at all.

That’s totally cool for fans of the above that this show is basically a live action continuation of those and I hope it satisfies that part of the fan base, but after E1 of Ashoka I’ve personally got zero interest or investment and won’t be continuing.

F*CK Disney, Bob Iger/Kathleen Kennedy, and their never ending string of derivative drivel that cannibalize and dilute existing Intellectual Properties in favor of diminishing returns and SUBSTANTIAL financial losses.

F.D.

Third episode of Ahsoka was poor and underscores how much they are just wasting time with pointless content to flesh the series out.

Case in point - the Sabine training at the start of the episode. The director already established she is a poor force user - the droid has told us more than once.

So, what was the point of a scene demonstrating what we have already been told? The audience gained no new information, there was no character development and the story not progressed.

This is in direct contrast to the Luke training scene in ANH, that the Sabine scene apes. In a fraction of the time, the audience learns more about "the force", we see Luke's character fleshed out (his petulance/impatience followed by a demonstration of his force sensitivity), learn more about Han's world view (force is nonsense) and this all helps to move the story forward.

This is the problem with Disney probably originally conceiving most of these as movie projects, then getting cold feet and deciding to stretch them out to miniseries for TV. Literally 3/4 of their shows are filler, it seems, with nothing but plot-expository dialogue that does little or nothing to flesh out the characters.

I feel like these shows are designed to appeal to people who sit on their phones and just glance up when they hear pew-pew or a lightsaber sound.

I don't think that was precisely what happened... they had been in development for a LONG period of time as content.

Disney might actually be considering canceling the upcoming Snow White.

Wondering...if the existing hyperspace lanes were established by following purgill migration paths and the "modern" nav computers are able to calculate the proper routes through them, shouldn't it still be possible to have your ship run into a random purgill kind of like hitting a deer on an otherwise empty road?

This show is terrible, but at least it’s something that a lot of fans actually wanted to see made. And they’re even throwing in that doofus bait Thrawn for good measure.

Agree that Andor has been the best show so far but that’s not saying all that much.

The writing and direction of Ahsoka is terrible. Why the **** would you take your 8 year old child on a dangerous mission? I can only assume it is so he will get in to trouble or kidnapped in future episodes so Hera has something to do.

All three female leads are monosybilic and devoid of personality. I can only assume this is by design, but it makes them really hard to root for. I mean, everyone is cheering for the villains at this point, right? Ray Stevenson is the only one with any kind of complexity to his character, and he dominates every scene he's in.

Well s**t, maybe the writers don't deserve a raise.

It was 16 years between ROTJ and The Phantom Menace. I’m semi-serious in saying that once Andor wraps up, they should just shelve all the **** live action movies and TV shows for another very, very long period of time before they water down a once great IP any further.

Obviously yes, but Disney have the £4bn they paid George to recoup so as long as they hold the IP that will never happen.

Best thing would be George buys it back and treats it like Back to the Future* - in other words, it gets mothballed indefinitely. At this point I'd rather that no more Star Wars is made, ever, if the alternative is Disney flogging it to death.