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04-16-2019 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I only watched 7 once, in the theater, and am kinda afraid to watch it again after seeing 8. But I loved it -- it was exhilarating. Now I'm sure part of it was the long absence of star wars and the way Abrams tapped into nostalgia, but I was totally engrossed the whole time. R1 was fine but the first half of the movie just felt dead except for the dude from Hannibal and the robot. Every other character was just, ok here's a guy. Who cares. But 7 had characters that I actually liked and cared about and was interested in from the first ten minutes. Did they make me care about them by cynically tapping into decades of pent up nostalgia? Maybe, but at least they accomplished that. R1 was just OK here are some folks and they are going to some places. Who cares.
I had the same experience watching 7 in theater, watching a 2nd time at home, on the other hand, was a terrible experience.
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04-16-2019 , 08:51 AM
SK,

I could have written that. Pretty much exactly how I feel.
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04-16-2019 , 09:04 AM
Yeah. +1 me as well. Unfortunately though, 7 was retroactively ruined by 8, I can't care anymore when I know how the story continues.
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04-16-2019 , 09:45 AM
Yep SK hit the nail on the head with my reaction to 7. Did a good job introducing three new protagonists and a villian, with a steady IV drip of shameless nostalgia that I didn't mind so much because it was well done. Definitely drops off a ton on repeat viewings though, and falls off a cliff knowing what happened in 8.

I liked R1 a lot more than SK and Nut and a few others, probably just variance though, I thought the slow buildup was worth it and I guess I liked the characters a bit more. Wound up seeing it twice in the theater.

Solo actually finds its footing much quicker than R1, but I feel it's not as good a movie overall...it was OK, not regretting waiting for it to hit Netflix. Would sit through it again if somebody wanted to watch it but not gonna seek it out.
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04-16-2019 , 11:49 AM
I don't want it to seem like I'm ****ting too much on R1, I liked it and thought it was a pretty good movie. I was just justifying why I ranked 7 above R1 -- I liked R1 but thought 7 was terrific. It was probably a top 15 movie theater experience for me. And the only time I ever watched a Star Wars movie in a theater and was just fully engrossed. Sadly I'm not enough of an old to have gone to the original trilogy in the theaters, saw them all on VHS.

Hmmmm, and that brings up an interesting question, what are the best moviegoing experiences I've had. Off the top of my head:

The Fugitive
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Avatar
Titanic (come at me bros)
T2 Judgement Day
The Abyss
Cast Away
The Matrix
No Country for Old Men
TFA
Office Space (one of the few who saw this in the theaters)
Argo
Pulp Fiction
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Jackie Brown
Django Unchained
Being John Malkovich
Inglorious Basterds
WALL-E

movies I wish I saw in the theater but didn't, would surely have made the list above:
Star Wars
Empire
Jedi
Godfather
Goodfellas
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Unforgiven
Fargo
Lebowski
Wrath of Kahn
Fight Club
Die Hard
Alien
Aliens
Dr. Strangelove


Movie that I saw in the theater when I was little and scared the **** out of me:
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04-16-2019 , 12:58 PM
Watching a movie with a whole lot of random ****s making noises, stuffing their mouths with junk, laughing at the most unfunny **** ever, and generally ruining the experience for everyone involved including themselves <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Watching a movie at home with the people you choose to watch it with.

FACT!
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04-16-2019 , 01:32 PM
No way man.

My fondest movie going experiences are light years ahead of watching anything at home.

I walk out of some movies soooo happy that I went and saw it on the big screen. I'll even call/text movie bros and be like: 'dude, you owe it to yourself to see this one on the big screen!'

Revenant is one that immediately springs to mind. The entire film was epic, but the opening scene set the tone so well. I felt like I was there. So good.

Pro tip: go to good quality theaters and avoid normie times at all costs. Weekday afternoons are the best, but early Sat. morning on hype releases are not bad. Mom isn't getting tickets for junior and Sally at 10 a.m. opening weekend at the only (real) IMAX within a couple hundred miles.

Sadly, with the state of movies today I rarely even go anymore.

Make Movies Great Again!
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04-16-2019 , 01:41 PM
I actually like going to a packed theater sometimes for certain movies. From the list above, I saw Argo, Avatar, Django, T2, Basterds, and TFA in a packed theater and it really added to the experience.
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04-16-2019 , 01:45 PM
Avatar and ep 7 were awesome in 3D in the theaters and I loved them!... and then I saw them on a television lol.


Add in Mad Max, that was just another level of movie going experience in 3D. I'd say Mad Max had the biggest difference between theater and the tele. Their 3D game was on point with that movie, it was like watching a different shoot of the same movie.
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04-16-2019 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
meanwhile, this is either going to be incredible or horrible
Prince Oberyn as Boba Fett. I'm in. But why the **** is Gina Carano in it? Was Ronda Rousey busy?
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04-16-2019 , 03:57 PM
I know I sound like a judgemental prick but really confused why you'd post loads itt and not even watch Solo.

It's not even a bad movie, its biggest crime is being extremely forgettable if you're not a Star Wars fan. If you're a Star Wars fan, it could still be an extremely forgettable OK movie, or something you'd actually enjoy quite a lot.
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04-16-2019 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Nothing personal, but I despise this take. Actually, I hate it with a burning passion.



That is Yoda. The wise old master who was designed with Einstein's wrinkles in mind. Not the damn cartoon spinning around acting like ****ing monkey.

The moment I saw that in the theater was the moment I averted my eyes and didn't even watch the rest of II. Total garbage.
Meh it was fun. Your point is very valid it just didn’t bother me. But I hate the endless crashes/chases in the new ST movies- especially the one with Khan.
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04-16-2019 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Prince Oberyn as Boba Fett. I'm in. But why the **** is Gina Carano in it? Was Ronda Rousey busy?
Nobody saw Haywire but she's actually a pretty decent actress and a very solid stunt performer, I'm kinda surprised she's not in more stuff
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04-16-2019 , 08:01 PM
OK so I'm about halfway through Solo and Lando ****s his droid rights droid, right? Is that why she's so militant about droid rights, because she's getting raped nightly by that sick **** Lando?
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04-16-2019 , 08:23 PM
I'm kind of shocked anyone would write that up about 7, but I guess I can see it now. On the one hand I want to say "sweet summer child" to those who thought that could be a good start to the trilogy, on the other hand I can understand the love for this universe and wanting it to be.
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04-16-2019 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
OK so I'm about halfway through Solo and Lando ****s his droid rights droid, right? Is that why she's so militant about droid rights, because she's getting raped nightly by that sick **** Lando?
I'd forgotten about that, it's a very strange subplot.
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04-16-2019 , 10:17 PM
Just finished Solo, thought it sucked. There was no dramatic tension because we knew where all the characters were going to end up. Han and his dog are going to be best friends forever, the girl is going to disappear forever, everyone in the movie that isn't Han or Lando or doesn't have fur is going to be left in the dust at the end of the movie. And Han and Chewie and Lando are going to be fine.

Which is fine, I suppose, but the movie can't be about Han and Game of Thrones girl's relationship, because we know it is irrelevant. Or if it is about their relationship, it has to really, really be about their relationship. You gotta really sell it to us, we have to buy it and the we have to feel it when the relationship ends. None of that happened. So this was just a lazy heist movie where we know all the characters are disposable but two and we don't care about any of the other characters but those two, so who cares. It's bad man. Bad. Is it prequels bad? IDK, I haven't seen them in over a decade and I'm not gonna rewatch them now. I guess I'll rank it above 2 because it didn't make me want to tear my eyeballs out or anything, but I'm not at all confident that it's better. It had its moments but we didn't need any of this.

And when folks say oh man there is nothing about Han's character that we need explained, well, I don't agree with that. Or, rather, I do agree with it but that's asking the wrong question. Yes, we don't need anything "explained" about Han's backstory. But that doesn't mean that we can't have a Han prequel. But it has to be good! It has to have a reason to exist outside of the story that follows it. Someone who has never seen Star Wars has to be able to sit down and watch the movie and be all, OK, this is a character I'm invested in. This is a story I care about. How does it end? Then link it up with the Kessel run and Chewie and Lando and whatever if you must. This did the opposite. It assumed you care about Han because you're a Star Wars fan then went from there. It assumed that you caring about Han was a hook when really it's a narrative roadblock that has to be overcome. The audience knows how the movie ends, which is a strike against it right off the bat, and that has to be overcome, you have to generate dramatic tension even though the audience knows where the pieces will end up. But instead of treating this as a handicap Solo treated it as a crutch. What a shame.

Some of the nostalgia was good, Glover was good as Lando, I actually thought the droids rights rebellion was kind of funny. I was moderately engaged the whole time, certainly better than TLJ.

5
4
6
7
R1
2=Solo
3
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8
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04-16-2019 , 10:29 PM
These are really some high quality posts, thanks for writing them. I agree with everything you said, I just didn't really care. Before the movie came out all of the news led me to believe it was going to be atrocious. Slightly less than mediocre was a pleasant surprise.

I wasnt expecting anything amazing from this movie, just some random Solo hijinks and it delivered that fan service. I wish they had kept the original script because it really could have been amazing, but its Disney...
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04-16-2019 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Just finished Solo, thought it sucked. There was no dramatic tension because we knew where all the characters were going to end up. Han and his dog are going to be best friends forever, the girl is going to disappear forever, everyone in the movie that isn't Han or Lando or doesn't have fur is going to be left in the dust at the end of the movie. And Han and Chewie and Lando are going to be fine.

Which is fine, I suppose, but the movie can't be about Han and Game of Thrones girl's relationship, because we know it is irrelevant. Or if it is about their relationship, it has to really, really be about their relationship. You gotta really sell it to us, we have to buy it and the we have to feel it when the relationship ends. None of that happened. So this was just a lazy heist movie where we know all the characters are disposable but two and we don't care about any of the other characters but those two, so who cares. It's bad man. Bad. Is it prequels bad? IDK, I haven't seen them in over a decade and I'm not gonna rewatch them now. I guess I'll rank it above 2 because it didn't make me want to tear my eyeballs out or anything, but I'm not at all confident that it's better. It had its moments but we didn't need any of this.

And when folks say oh man there is nothing about Han's character that we need explained, well, I don't agree with that. Or, rather, I do agree with it but that's asking the wrong question. Yes, we don't need anything "explained" about Han's backstory. But that doesn't mean that we can't have a Han prequel. But it has to be good! It has to have a reason to exist outside of the story that follows it. Someone who has never seen Star Wars has to be able to sit down and watch the movie and be all, OK, this is a character I'm invested in. This is a story I care about. How does it end? Then link it up with the Kessel run and Chewie and Lando and whatever if you must. This did the opposite. It assumed you care about Han because you're a Star Wars fan then went from there. It assumed that you caring about Han was a hook when really it's a narrative roadblock that has to be overcome. The audience knows how the movie ends, which is a strike against it right off the bat, and that has to be overcome, you have to generate dramatic tension even though the audience knows where the pieces will end up. But instead of treating this as a handicap Solo treated it as a crutch. What a shame.

Some of the nostalgia was good, Glover was good as Lando, I actually thought the droids rights rebellion was kind of funny. I was moderately engaged the whole time, certainly better than TLJ.

5
4
6
7
R1
2=Solo
3
1
8
They fired lord and Miller to replace them by arrested development narrator. That really paid off 😂
I love that into the spiderverse and solo got released the same year.
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04-16-2019 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
They fired lord and Miller to replace them by arrested development narrator. That really paid off 😂
I love that into the spiderverse and solo got released the same year.
Firing Lord and Miller was obviously a mistake but you're giving Howard short shrift here. He has made some excellent movies and is a competent filmmaker. The problem was either not letting Lord and Miller finish their movie or not hiring Howard in the first place. There is no chance that Howard would have made such an emotionally sterile film if he had been in charge of it from the beginning. Of course he gutted the humor and soul of the movie Lord and Miller made, but that's what he was hired to do. The blame is entirely on Lucasfilm and Kennedy, there's no way Howard had any chance of salvaging the situation. It's unbelievable Kennedy still has a job, she fired two directors, one well into filming, and she got her contract renewed? And this is out of four movies! WTF.
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04-17-2019 , 02:49 AM
Remind me what great movie was made this century by Ron Howard without checking imdb ?
I agree that ultimately its Kennedy who ****ed up but Howard was a terrible choice aswell he has been terrible for almost 20 years.
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04-17-2019 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
Watching a movie with a whole lot of random ****s making noises, stuffing their mouths with junk, laughing at the most unfunny **** ever, and generally ruining the experience for everyone involved including themselves <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Watching a movie at home with the people you choose to watch it with.

FACT!
Stupidest take in this thread
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04-17-2019 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
Remind me what great movie was made this century by Ron Howard without checking imdb ?
I agree that ultimately its Kennedy who ****ed up but Howard was a terrible choice aswell he has been terrible for almost 20 years.
GTFO with "without checking imdb." What kind of test is that? Who memorizes the filmography of a second tier director? But Cinderella man and A Beautiful Mind were made in the last 20 years and were good.

Checking imdb, I didn't see Frost Nixon but it was very well received. Cinderella Man and Beautiful Mind were great. The Heart of the Sea was a perfectly cromulent movie. I didn't see Rush but it has a 8.1 rating on imdb, 89% on RT and a 75 on Metacritic. The Da Vinci Code was fine for what it was, a less hammy National Treasure or whatever. He made the sequels to that which I'm sure I wouldn't care for but they are what they are, it's like criticizing the director of the Twilight movies for making Twilight movies. They back the money truck into your driveway and you make the movie. The only stinker that he's made in the last 20 years (really his whole career from what I can tell) was The Dilemma, which I didn't see.
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04-17-2019 , 10:42 AM
IMDB has the ****ing Shawshank Redemption as the No. 1 movie of all time. That should say enough about them as a reference for quality.

Also cs3,

FACTS aren't takes.
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04-17-2019 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
IMDB has the ****ing Shawshank Redemption as the No. 1 movie of all time. That should say enough about them as a reference for quality.

Also cs3,

FACTS aren't takes.
You're exhausting.
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