OTOH, Marvel have released over 20 films in like 10 years and that brand just gets stronger. That pretty much eliminates "fatigue" as an explanation.

I don't see any other reason than a backlash against TLJ, given the fairly warm reception among both critics and fans for Solo.

Cheery Han, Grumpy Luke. Gonna remake a New Hope with this dynamic.

Need a busty, blonde lady Chewbacca imo.

I think this is like 75% of the reason. Since the movie's getting reviewed well I think it'll have a little bit of staying power, but obviously still gonna underperform massively. In a way that's good because any proposed sequels might get scrapped, and they had a much better chance of sucking mightily. I'd much rather they keep trying different side stories with different styles rather than finding a well they can suck dry.

I don't think that's it. I saw TLJ with a friend who thought that it was great, and he also liked the other two recent films, but when I brought up Solo a month ago with him he was just like "I don't care. I'm not seeing it." I think Disney dropped the ball with promoting this one. I'd been assuming I'd see it just out of habit, but the trailer was so bad that it convinced me that all the problems on set really were bad and never got fixed. They made a film that no one asked for and did nothing to tell people why they should care about it. There was never a point in time where I felt any hype for this film. And the reviews are not as good as you're making them out to be.

Maybe I missed it. But why isnt the "giant space monster gets sucked into a wormhole while they try and inject magic space dust into the dylithium reactor" not getting more hate?

There's no way that scene doesnt age horribly.

I said the reviews were warm, not good. IMDB has a user score of 7.2; Metacritic 62; RT goes 71% critics and 64% audience.

I don't think Star Wars fatigue is the right way to put it. I think it is more likely delayed backlash from TLJ. If I liked TLJ I would have gone to see Solo as long as the reviews were reasonably positive, and these reviews qualify. I just don't want to give the folks who thought and still think that making TLJ was a good idea another dime.

Yeah I'm in the same camp as SK and know a few other people who feel the same. It's probably not an enormous percentage of their potential audience staying away for this reason, but a statistically significant one.

That and lots of people thought that making a Han Solo movie was a stupid idea to begin with. Nobody was asking for a Han Solo movie.

The people in charge of Star Wars have really dropped the ball.

With 5 Star Wars movies in the top 20 grossing movies of all time(inflation adjusted) you really have to screw up badly to make people actively avoid going to see a Star Wars movie.

It's even worse because the other studies thought Solo would be a hit and seem to have cleared the deck for it, the biggest release for the first weekend in June was some movie named "Adrift". Last year this was the weekend they released Wonder Woman.

This was the worst 22nd weekend of the year in unadjusted dollars since 2000. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/?view=wknd&p=.htm

Ugh sounds like a dumb star trek episode

I had flashbacks to Phantom Menace with that scene. It was dumb but over very quickly.

Wormhole scene seemed fine but then again there is literally nothing a movie can do to tilt me more than Superman Leia.

don't get me wrong, I hate TLJ more that most folks. But I don't see what's so bad with the Leia in space scene. If force people can pull smaller objects towards them, why can't they pull themselves to larger objects? Just physics imo.

Gonna nerd out and remind people that Jedi survive in space for periods of time in the original expanded universe stories.

People can survive in vacuum without being magic space wizards, you'd be conscious for tens of seconds and alive and able to be revived for probably a minute or two.

My guess would be that the marketing is more of the problem than a TLJ backlash. There was a lot of negative publicity swirling around the film for like a year, trailers were released late, and the whole marketing effort has been half hearted. The movie also hasn't been particularly well received. People ITT generally liked it, but RT has 65% of the audience liking it vs 87% for Rogue One (46% for TLJ, but that may have been gamed a little). CinemaScore is A- which is actually not very good, it's the worst of any of the Disney Star Wars films and on par with the prequels.

Leia is a Jedi?

Speaking of TLJ backlash...

feel bad for her, not her fault her character was written the way it was.

I feel like the background info that scrolls by in yellow at the beginning of these movies should include a list of all the characters and a description of all their various superpowers.

The problems I had with the SuperLeia thing were:

A) We knew she was "force sensitive" or whatever but there was no sign whatsoever that she had done any Jedi training which would surely be necessary to hone a skill like that, and if she had, the time to show that would have been during TFA (basically making this yet another "we just made up some new **** for this movie because we felt like it")

B) The way it was presented was insanely cheesy, like she's floating in space all serenely and the audience is meant to think "how peaceful, what a way to go, she had a good run" and then the movie is all "Sike! Look what we did" in the most obnoxious way possible.

Maybe it is easier to learn Jedi skills in space. Like the force rays can move more freely if there is no atmospheric interference?

No you're confused, everyone knows now it's midichlorians, which clearly can survive in all sorts of harsh environments like those tardigrade things. Probably swimming all over the place out in deep space, just forcin' the crap out of everything.