I'm pretty sure he meant a female who is also a minority when he said "female minority"

I agree the diversity is good, just appears more Forced than it is.

Not sure if this was to me but I've already said that I don't feel the SJW criticisms really apply to this movie. I was speaking in a broader sense.

I mean I do disagree with you on Rey, but I would struggle to think of a single really good character from any action/fantasy movie. There's only so much actual character development you can achieve in between flying spaceships and swinging around lightsabers.

Well yeah but he confirms it after claiming to know, and she would have no way of knowing herself so her telling anyone is pretty meaningless.

It was to Sugar Nut


And she was told in the cave. The shadow of them was shown but not their faces.

Ah right sorry I misunderstood the 'ya'll' lol

I still don't get it. Like they are obviously actual people, so I'm not sure what the shadow was supposed to mean. Does the fact that a shadow was shown meant that they were not jedi/force users?

Yeah, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. If you Google "Rey Mary Sue", you get smacked with a barrage of click-bait listicles by all the usual suspects (including the literal themarysue.com) à la "12 Reasons Why Rey Is Not a Mary Sue - Number 7 will show you how racist you are for thinking that".

Here's what the actress who plays Rey has to say. Spoiler: If you call Rey a Mary Sue, it's because you're a sexist, because of course you are.

Hey, that character is flawlessly virtuous, trying to help this droid, and trying to help that guy, and trying to help this cause, and - get this - NEVER asking anything in return!!! Don't call her a Mary Sue, you sexist prick!

And that's not even mentioning her defeating two of the most accomplished force - and lightsaber users within, what's the timeframe between TFA and TLJ, two weeks of being introduced to the world of Jedi and The Force?

The Force seems to try to bring about balance. The sense I got from the movie was that Rey's existence may be something that was brought about by the Force to provide balance. So she is given sufficient power to accomplish that, but that power is not enough to guarantee the result. Anakin Skywalker was created with that power, but he turned to the Dark Side. Rey might have the highest midi-chlorian count ever because the Force needs her to be strong.

If I were in charge of developing the Star Wars universe, I might go with an idea that the Force influenced the beginning of the Sith because they were required to be a balance against a Jedi Order that was growing too powerful.

For reference, John Cena is probably the ultimate example of the Marty Stu character right?

One fairly obvious way in which it takes risks is in making Rey the child of nobodies and moving the series away from being the Skywalker family saga. This is something that fans have complained about. This is something that I think they knew some fans would complain about. What some people see as intentional trolling of hardcore fanboys, I see as a conscious decision to

The Canto Bight stuff seemed to want to show that there was a world outside of war. It might be setting the tone for Rian Johnson's new trilogy as something less militaristic than previous Star Wars stuff.

I really liked how Poe Dameron's story arc is that of a gifted but reckless potential leader who needs to learn prudence. This appeals to me as a nitty poker player who regularly schools reckless LAGs who could be good players if they learned to think ahead more instead of being pure id at the table. The plan involving the casino planet had to fail to teach him a lesson. It was risky to have our heroes fail that way, with a flawed plan that didn't lend itself to moments of bad-assery.

You seem to be the one ranting.

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I think she learned it using magic. "Search your feelings, you know it to be true" kind of stuff.

There was no complaining about Ripley precisely because she was the exception to the rule. As long as the rule held(action heroes = men ) then there was no problem
For basement dwelling virgins.

That said If Alien and Aliens came in the interweb age then there probably quite a few who would have complained.

An loltubez explaining how Dr who is misandrist has over 1 million hits. I would have said this was bollox till Admiral in a nightdress had me second guessing.

Just to be clear for jmakin who as a liker of TwoatJedi must be crap at nuance, there is a certain amount of levelling going on in this post.



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wiki has the awesome here:

This, this is a classic example of drivel.

Johnson meant it straightforwardly, but again, there is no plan for these movies, so:

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Leia's space flight survival...not totally scientifically impossible apparently (aside from the force aspect of course):
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/could-l...acuum-of-space

Pretty much my point exactly, and the reason I want more Ripleys and fewer "Look at me, I'm a perfect specimen of a human being, and anything less would be misogyny" characters.

Clark, if you had to choose, Ripley or Rey, who is the better written character?

wow lol

Ok you have convinced me, I now see that Star Wars is just absolutely ****ing awful

Is it too late to add Stephanie McMahon to this poll?

I had to google that. I stopped watching the WWF (not WWE) in the 90s, but yeah, let's add her in too.