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07-23-2015 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
All,


FWIW, from reading a bunch of stuff yesterday, it sounds like this may have all started after 4-5 minutes of crying, not 40.

I agree with the people saying both sides seem terrible here.
From the mom's own piece, sounds like the kid was crying the whole time they were waiting for food (40 minutes) and still crying after the food came. Was prob crying somewhat during the wait to be seated, but apparently not antsy enough for the mom to count it as crying.

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When we arrived, we were told there would be a 30-minute wait for a table. While not ideal, we knew that on a Saturday morning in a tourist town, there would likely be a wait everywhere.

We finally got a table and ordered food. I ordered pancakes for my daughter, which took about 40 minutes to arrive. At this point, my 21-month-old was getting antsy, as I imagine most would when they have to sit in one place and wait for a long time. She wasn’t having a meltdown, so we decided to stay in our corner booth rather than go outside in the rain. In the noisy diner I didn’t see anyone looking at us or think we were causing a disturbance. (If that had been the case, we would have gladly taken our baby outside.)


When the food came, my daughter was still fussing. My husband and I decided that we would eat our food quickly then leave.
Could also be mom's exaggerating the wait time catching up to her when she tries to say how long kid was crying. She never acknowledges there was a time the crying reached an inappropriate level, so youd think it was prob a nice steady cry from the beginning.

Hard to tell, but did parents decide to just eat quickly themselves and then take the kid's food to go?


Best part of all of this is mom saying to her two year old "this is what Im teaching you not to be like when you grow up". Like a baby that you cant shut the **** up is gonna be able to process or remember that. Parents who do stuff like that are so phony and the worst.

Owner seems like a huge bitch and horrible at what she does (though running grill and being PIC sounds like a ****show) but parents way worse.

That article mom wrote was just the worst. From subtle (prob exaggerated) digs at the wait time to mentioning the % they tipped. Just gtfo.
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07-23-2015 , 01:23 AM
Jack, the difference between a plane and a restaurant is that sometimes little kids need to fly. They don't need to eat out. In either case, it's no big deal as long as the parents are willing to step outside with them when they start crying.
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07-23-2015 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
Yes, it might shut them up, but that is because they will be scarred of you, not because they are learning a life lesson.
That is a definition of a life lesson. Doing something bad and getting scared as a result.
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07-23-2015 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
The mom wrote an article telling her side of the story
Stopped reading after I saw the ridiculous misleading picture at the top.
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07-23-2015 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
Diner owner also updated her facebook page last night with this, already has 17k likes:
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she said "Darla, I can't believe you didn't yell "shut the f*#@ up" See, everyone knows that's my favorite word. Always has been. ...Lava soup didn't even make me stop saying it!..
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07-23-2015 , 04:54 AM
No soup for you! I really like the crazy lady.
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07-23-2015 , 07:19 AM
yelling at children is a hate crime
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07-23-2015 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GodSmackJack
C'mon...who hasn't been out to dinner and had to endure a screaming kid? It happens. I fly a couple times a month. Sometimes kids scream. It doesn't mean I'm gonna yell at the kid. I might shoot a dirty look at a parent but most times they're helpless in these situations.
On a plane, there's nowhere for the parents to take their kid. In a restaurant, there's no excuse for not stepping outside.
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07-23-2015 , 08:31 AM
It boils down to parental apathy. If you see a parent trying to calm the kid down and it's just not working, almost everyone will understand on a plane. And you get more leeway in a restaurant. I wouldn't think twice if the parent just started drinking.

But if the parent just sits there on their phone while the crappy kid screams, then hell with them.
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07-23-2015 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Jack, the difference between a plane and a restaurant is that sometimes little kids need to fly. They don't need to eat out. In either case, it's no big deal as long as the parents are willing to step outside with them when they start crying.
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07-23-2015 , 09:48 AM
Subbed. Will watch videos later
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07-23-2015 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
Do people seriously think its appropriate to yell at a crying pre-2 year old? I get that you may want to, but at that age they are too young to understand why you are yelling. Yes, it might shut them up, but that is because they will be scarred of you...
So.... mission accomplished? Or am I now responsible for the successful rearing of your terrible children, too?

This child would have a better chance at being raised properly if mom set it down in a catapult and shot it in a random direction.
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07-23-2015 , 10:05 AM
The owner explained he was yelling at the father, not directly at the kid.

Also, the kid crying is whatever, it's not even 2 yet but the parents sitting there whining about the wait is ridiculous. My wife and I took our 6 month old out for dinner, she started to get fussy and cry, so we said "we'll take our order to go"
We assumed this was standard procedure, apparently not
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07-23-2015 , 10:08 AM
I love the owner! I was at dinner the other night discussing this and I said, "You know who she reminds me of?" and everyone just looked me and nodded, lol. I can be brusk at times, although I never cuss.

And helpless parents? I'd help them right out the door.
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07-23-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Thank god for this post; I was skimming this thread and scratching my head at all the support for the lunatic restaurant owner.

Of course a parent ought to comfort/ berate / remove a child when they get upset in a public place. At no point is it acceptable for a stranger to yell into a crying infant's face. The parents may well be terrible in this case, but anyone congratulating the restaurant owner is an imbecile.
I totally understand you're point of view, but do we really think the kid is going to be scared the rest of its precious little life? NO!

The kid learned a lesson the hard way. The owner was essentially yelling at the parents, but was probably looking at the kid and pointed her finger saying "THIS HAS GOT TO STOP".

The parents even admitted the kid was crying for an extended period of time, but decided to wait it out and "eat quickly" then leave.

Poor kid in a sense that it has these parents. The parents should feel embarrassed about how this situation concluded. That's probably why they created a revolt against the diner. What else are they supposed to do? Thank the diner owner for yelling at their kid and teaching it a lesson? I'd be embarrassed as a parent.

You have to understand.....someone that doesn't think a screaming kid for 40 mins is no big deal, can't comprehend the overall situation.
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07-23-2015 , 11:49 AM
Owner is just skyrocketing up in the rankings. Haters gonna hate. Parents, the world doesn't revolve around you and your kids, and you're a terrible parent if you think it does.

If an adult just walked right in and caused a scene like the kid was doing, they'd be asked to leave and there would be no incident.
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07-23-2015 , 12:38 PM
IMO, the attitude of the parents is everything in a situation like this.

I've been in situations in public places where baby junior decides to crank up the volume, for whatever reason. I'm getting annoyed, so I look over.

I see a dad, embarrassed and frantic, looking at the Mrs., who is frazzled and shushing said junior, and I momentarily make eye contact. Mom has that look, she's all but done in over what to do next, and she'll give me one of those apologetic half smiles that says, "Sorry I'm trying. We're trying. WTF next?"

And, as annoyed as I might have been, I feel compassion toward them. I'd like to get up and give them all a hug and let them know that it gets better, but not much.

From the articles, I'm not getting the idea that we're talking about this kind of parent.
And it's a shame, really. Because it ruins things for everybody.
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07-23-2015 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT
If an adult just walked right in and caused a scene like the kid was doing, they'd be asked to leave and there would be no incident.
so now we're just going to ignore the fact that a child is a child and not an adult. cool.
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07-23-2015 , 12:51 PM
Children learn to cry or make a fuss at about 6 months old in order to manipulate their parents.

At 21 months if your child is crying or having tantrums for 40 minutes then it's the parents that they have learned this behavior from.

And yes I know there might be something else but as this age children are already using two or three word phrases. It's not like this is a 3 month old whose only form of communication is crying.

The more you know.
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07-23-2015 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by granddam
IMO, the attitude of the parents is everything in a situation like this.

I've been in situations in public places where baby junior decides to crank up the volume, for whatever reason. I'm getting annoyed, so I look over.

I see a dad, embarrassed and frantic, looking at the Mrs., who is frazzled and shushing said junior, and I momentarily make eye contact. Mom has that look, she's all but done in over what to do next, and she'll give me one of those apologetic half smiles that says, "Sorry I'm trying. We're trying. WTF next?"

And, as annoyed as I might have been, I feel compassion toward them. I'd like to get up and give them all a hug and let them know that it gets better, but not much.

From the articles, I'm not getting the idea that we're talking about this kind of parent.
And it's a shame, really. Because it ruins things for everybody.
I agree with this 100%. If the parents are trying then I have all the compassion in the world. (Okay, the screaming in that one video would have made me nuts, but I would try to be cool.)
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07-23-2015 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Whose2know
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The kid learned a lesson the hard way. ...snip
This seems to be truism especially amongst those who have never had kids.
It's not. Kids of that age are irrational ****ers. She learned nothing especially as this was no more than a one off incident.
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07-23-2015 , 01:25 PM
100% with the owner on this one. It's her diner. If people don't like the way she acts towards a screaming toddler, they can go eat somewhere else.
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07-23-2015 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
100% with the owner on this one. It's her diner. If people don't like the way she acts towards a screaming toddler, they can go eat somewhere else.
Whether you agree with her or not, it's undeniable that this incident won't be good for business, so the old "you don't like it? Go somewhere else" attitude is pretty dumb.
I have well behaved kids and although I agree with the owner, I wouldn't go in with them
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07-23-2015 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Moe Danglez
Whether you agree with her or not, it's undeniable that this incident won't be good for business, so the old "you don't like it? Go somewhere else" attitude is pretty dumb.
I have well behaved kids and although I agree with the owner, I wouldn't go in with them

What makes you say that?
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07-23-2015 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Moe Danglez
Whether you agree with her or not, it's undeniable that this incident won't be good for business, so the old "you don't like it? Go somewhere else" attitude is pretty dumb.
I have well behaved kids and although I agree with the owner, I wouldn't go in with them
Bs. If I lived in Portland I'd start going there 3-4 times a week. So would many other people. This will only help her business
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