not that it really matters, but i happen to be fully vaccinated. i know most of the casino workers are not vaccinated. they asked him several times to wear his mask over his nose. and even if they don't care personally about the risk they can get in trouble for having someone at their table who isn't wearing the mask right. and it's an awkward spot to keep asking the guy over and over or call the floor on him because they have to rely on the guy to tip them for their income. so it's much easier for me to call the floor on him, so the dealer doesn't have to confront the guy or get in trouble with their boss.

Why aren't the employees vaccinated?
Is it not available to them in your area?

Because many jurisdictions and private businesses (including most casinos) require it.

Why are the casino workers not vaccinated? It seems absurdly hypocritical to me that someone who is not vaccinated would insist on someone who -is- vaccinated wearing a mask.

It is so ridiculous that so many places have mask mandates but not vaccinations mandates when being vaccinated is both much more effective and much less inconvenient than wearing a mask everywhere.

Was it Elon Musk?

It took me a minute to figure out what you meant, as those are both presented in the first person (I/we). You mean doing things to protect folks in the third person (people who are not vaccinated), rather than the first (me).

I agree that this sounds less selfish, but a large part of that is the choice issue. In the second one, you are presenting it as "I don't want to get vaccinated," but it would be much more compelling if you had a reason you couldn't get vaccinated. So which of these sounds more reasonable, or is it a wash?

"We need to mask up to protect people who can't get vaccinated for one health reason or another."

"I would love to get the vaccine, but I have a severe allergy to polyethylene glycol and polysorbate, and all of the vaccines contain one or the other. So please wear a mask to protect me until they approve a vaccine I can take or we reach herd immunity."

Most of son's baseball team had JNJ shot yesterday. A few players are sick today but overall the side effects are better than they expected and much better than the players who had the moderna/pfizer vaccine. It's a small sample size but the side effects are supposed to be similar for all three.

There are still some unproven elements of vaccinations. Such as even if you are vaccinated can you still carry some virus and pass it on to others? While so far the data say the answer to that is no, it still hasn't been conclusively shown.

Further, covid-19 is still quite prevalent. So while an individual may be vaccinated it still doesn't provide 100% protection, which means there's still a chance of infection even if you've received both shots, and those chances go up rapidly if the more you are exposed to the virus. And while the vaccination still prevents you from having a bad result, there is also a 10-day incubation period for even mild cases where you could pass it on to someone else before you even realize that you have it and they may have a bad result or in turn pass it to someone else who may.

So yeah, masks are still unfortunately a good idea for a while yet. Much as we all hate them. Maybe four or six weeks longer.

Fwiw in the aria poker room there’s a solid 30% hit rate for mask under the nose guys, and I haven’t heard a single person say anything to anyone about it in the ~24 hrs I have been here.

And every ****ing flu season and any time you are personally sick. East Asian cities know what's up. I'm following suit from now on.

Does anyone have data on how effective are masks during flu season in Asian cities? How does their flu season compare to a comparable USA city?

Could be a good selling point.

Mask mandate ends today at our local casinos. The vaccine is readily available to everyone around here and our 7 day case average is 3 so I don't have a problem with that decision.

Masks are just theater anyway and are more likely to give you a false sense of security rather than offer any real protection against covid.

bobbyJ coming in with this blistering take more than a year into a global pandemic.

C’mon man...it’s May 2021. Everyone knows that the most basic masks doesn’t offer much protection for YOURSELF.

I mean it just makes my blood boil seeing people still saying the same sh’t 15 months later

Exactly.

Hard to compare the two. The thing is asian cities are full of asians. Airlift a few million u.s. morans into taiwan and see how fast that place goes down hill- masks or no masks

Hello, previously banned covitard idiot.

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Because it is easier than assuming people will correctly choose to wear a mask until they are vaccinated. And it's polite.

Being polite is socialism.

This pandemic has just enligtened me to how insanely selfish a large % of American population are. They can't even be bothered for the smallest inconvenience of wearing a mask in public without throwing temper tantrums to benefit the greater good. It will be fun to see what water rations and possibly food rations bring with them in the next 10 or so years.

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Not sure about that.

I'm an idiot, but all indications are that the vaccines work against variants, even if there is slightly diminished efficacy.

Disclaimer - I'm dumb

I am very pleased to see that you used the qualifier "appear" here, but I don't think that's what the article says. AFAICT, what it says is that a single dose plus a previous case of COVID does better against the variants than a single dose without.

It doesn't say that vaccines are useless against the variants, even in the single-dose regime, much less the two dose, which they didn't test.