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05-20-2020 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
My daughter’s hours got cut from 40 to 24. A normal 40 hour week she would bring home about 350. Now she brings home about 210 from her job and another 680 a week in unemployment lol
How does she qualify for unemployment? Are the rules different now?
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05-20-2020 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
your obsession with the covid seems almost unhealthy at this point suzzer
It's not obsession, it's research!

I like Suzzer's reporting.

More posters and less lurkers make it more fun.
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05-20-2020 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
How does she qualify for unemployment? Are the rules different now?
Reduced hours. If you read the second page of this it explains a lot:

Eligibility Checker
https://esdorchardstorage.blob.core....ityChecker.pdf

More info from https://esd.wa.gov/unemployment/cares-act:
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Many people who usually can’t get unemployment benefits now can.

This means money to help thousands more Washingtonians during the COVID-19 crisis, including:

Part-time workers and others who have lost work due to COVID-19
Workers with less than 680 hours in their base year
Parents who have lost childcare due to COVID-19
People at high risk of contracting COVID-19
People sick or caring for someone with COVID-19
People who are unemployed due to COVID-19 and have run out of regular unemployment benefits
People who are unemployed due to COVID-19 and are not eligible for regular unemployment benefits
The new federal CARES Act makes this possible.

The amount of financial help varies. But if your application is approved, you will be paid at least the minimum weekly benefit amount, and if that amount is at least $1 per week, you will also receive an additional $600 weekly for weeks ending March 29 to July 25.

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05-20-2020 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
How does she qualify for unemployment? Are the rules different now?

She gets partial unemployment and is eligible to collect 60% of the amount she would normally make for the 16 hours that were cut. According to their calculations that amount is $80. The cares act says as long as you are collecting $1 in unemployment you get $600 on top of that. She went from getting 350 in her 40 hour a week to getting 890 working 24 hours. She didn’t have them take taxes out so she will owe something for that come tax time. They did the same thing to 10 other people she knows that are all on her pay level. They also went to work from home for those 3 days. None of them are gonna want to go back to 40 hours until this extra 600 ends.

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05-20-2020 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
your obsession with the covid seems almost unhealthy at this point suzzer
You wouldn't understand. Curiosity about the world is not a right-wing trait.

Also it's more than curiosity. I want to know if there are early warning signs or if people are truly asymptomatic for that 2-3 day window right before symptoms - when they're shedding the most out of their throats.

My friend thought she just had allergies, then they went away for a day or two, then the real symptoms hit. Because of that pause, which apparently is common, she never connected the allergy-like symptoms as possibly covid. I asked her if those could have been covid. She thought about it and said yeah maybe.

Furthermore I have a theory that the way you get it could make a huge difference in symptoms. She got it from either a day of shopping, or some other random encounter where she wasn't heavily exposed. Most likely her roommate got it from her, which means he was probably blasted with her breath droplets.

She said his symptoms almost went in reverse of hers. So maybe it all depends on where the virus takes root first, then moves to. Or maybe not. But we know for sure that symptoms are all over the map, and the virus replicates in at least two places - the throat and lungs.

Fascinating stuff that maybe some day they'll actually scientifically understand.

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05-20-2020 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Do you have an idea where/how you got it? If you think you know - how long before the symptoms started? Before the real symptoms were there any super mild symptoms or weird things like losing taste and smell?
My mom is a nurse. Her hospital really kinda goofed with ppe. They were really strict at the start of Covid with ppe and actually made the regulations looser (nurses in Covid unit didn’t need to wear n95 masks etc). Probably like 15 nurses got Covid in my moms unit which is really a joke. There was a story in the local news regarding this where a management employee stated it wasn’t a given that the employees got it at work but could have gotten it in public (which i find comical bc most people where I live wear masks in public/ people aren’t really doing high risk activities). I honestly feel there should be a lawsuit against the hospital for making such a negligent error but probably not realistic.

I got tested Thursday and started having symptoms Thursday night. Wanna say maybe I was exposed Tuesday-Wednesday as my sister visited my mom Sunday/Monday and didn’t test positive. I’ve lost taste/ smell and really not too motivated to eat as I don’t really have an appetite. Just want to sleep honestly. I’ve been working through this however have slept if I’m exhausted.

Testing has been a joke. First off I got tested at a public site which was well run and quick. I may have waited 45 minutes but it was a smooth process. I just find it irritating it took 5 days to find out I was positive. My mom got tested at her hospital and found out later that day she was positive. I knew I had it before my results came back due to how I felt. Also I find it irritating my own doctor couldn’t test me. I had a 2 minute video call with my doctor who made it sound like Covid was no big deal and not to worry. Testing in the US really needs to be improved imo.
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05-20-2020 , 08:25 AM
well if you’re not old and dont have any comorbidities its pretty known now that covid is not a big deal, i’d take covid anyday over my crohn’s disease
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05-20-2020 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
well if you’re not old and dont have any comorbidities its pretty known now that covid is not a big deal, i’d take covid anyday over my crohn’s disease
You only get to choose crohns disease and covid.

Check bolded.
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05-20-2020 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
You only get to choose crohns disease and covid.

Check bolded.
im well ****in aware im at risk mate, thanks for pointing it out genius
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05-20-2020 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
My mom is a nurse. Her hospital really kinda goofed with ppe. They were really strict at the start of Covid with ppe and actually made the regulations looser (nurses in Covid unit didn’t need to wear n95 masks etc). Probably like 15 nurses got Covid in my moms unit which is really a joke. There was a story in the local news regarding this where a management employee stated it wasn’t a given that the employees got it at work but could have gotten it in public (which i find comical bc most people where I live wear masks in public/ people aren’t really doing high risk activities). I honestly feel there should be a lawsuit against the hospital for making such a negligent error but probably not realistic.

I got tested Thursday and started having symptoms Thursday night. Wanna say maybe I was exposed Tuesday-Wednesday as my sister visited my mom Sunday/Monday and didn’t test positive. I’ve lost taste/ smell and really not too motivated to eat as I don’t really have an appetite. Just want to sleep honestly. I’ve been working through this however have slept if I’m exhausted.

Testing has been a joke. First off I got tested at a public site which was well run and quick. I may have waited 45 minutes but it was a smooth process. I just find it irritating it took 5 days to find out I was positive. My mom got tested at her hospital and found out later that day she was positive. I knew I had it before my results came back due to how I felt. Also I find it irritating my own doctor couldn’t test me. I had a 2 minute video call with my doctor who made it sound like Covid was no big deal and not to worry. Testing in the US really needs to be improved imo.
Thanks a lot. What state are you in btw?

I had a couple of friends who got tested in California and they got a 2-day turnaround with the results.
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05-20-2020 , 01:43 PM
Here in Germany it's 48 hours but if you're positive it's actually 99% that you get the call on the next day.
Whole staff got tested at the nursing home I work for - it was voluntary, so like 90% - one positive out of like 150. She had been cleaning the apartments of 12 residents, none infected nor any co-workers.
As you might know, carnival is insanity where I live (Cologne) so it was damn lucky no spread happened back then. It did however happen elsewhere and **** hit the fan for that district (Heinsberg).

I've been reading an article on how many false positives (as well as false negatives) there are supected to be ATM.
The accuracy is apparently thought to be about 99,5% with no way of controlling it; since Covid-19 is so new it'll take a while to find a proper B-test.
Thus a rough estimate of a million tests with one per cent of the population infected results in 5,000 erroneous tests and 10,000 positives. Not too great.
I don't recall that being covered ITT, apologies if it was.
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05-20-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
well if you’re not old and dont have any comorbidities its pretty known now that covid is not a big deal, i’d take covid anyday over my crohn’s disease
Well, it's been a few hours and nobody has contested this, so I guess it's true and you goofs all spent 373 pages on nothing?

Also, I personally know of people who have either been hospitalized or died due either directly to COVID or suspected involvement, who were in their 40s and otherwise presumed fairly healthy.

Might also want to look into the inflammatory disease affecting children post COVID infection.
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05-20-2020 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
You wouldn't understand. Curiosity about the world is not a right-wing trait.

Also it's more than curiosity. I want to know if there are early warning signs or if people are truly asymptomatic for that 2-3 day window right before symptoms - when they're shedding the most out of their throats.

My friend thought she just had allergies, then they went away for a day or two, then the real symptoms hit. Because of that pause, which apparently is common, she never connected the allergy-like symptoms as possibly covid. I asked her if those could have been covid. She thought about it and said yeah maybe.

Furthermore I have a theory that the way you get it could make a huge difference in symptoms. She got it from either a day of shopping, or some other random encounter where she wasn't heavily exposed. Most likely her roommate got it from her, which means he was probably blasted with her breath droplets.

She said his symptoms almost went in reverse of hers. So maybe it all depends on where the virus takes root first, then moves to. Or maybe not. But we know for sure that symptoms are all over the map, and the virus replicates in at least two places - the throat and lungs.

Fascinating stuff that maybe some day they'll actually scientifically understand.
If your friend got it randomly while out and about and her roommate got it from her, in close contact indoors, then the roommate was in considerably more danger. That is called the 'viral load' -- proximity and frequency of contact with the infected person can make it much worse.
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05-20-2020 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Thanks a lot. What state are you in btw?

I had a couple of friends who got tested in California and they got a 2-day turnaround with the results.
Upstate ny. There aren’t huge #s of cases here in comparison to nyc / bigger cities around the US.
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05-20-2020 , 05:41 PM
article that shows the graph of every state and gives them a grade based just on trajectory

https://fair.org/home/grading-the-st...virus-control/

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I want to reiterate that these grades reflect only the trajectory of each state’s outbreak, and not the absolute magnitude of their peaks. It does matter that on California’s worst day so far, it had 70 new cases per million, and on New York’s worst day it had 588 per million. But in terms of guiding the national coronavirus outbreak to a successful conclusion—one that does not involve the virus spreading disastrously through the entire population—the direction of each state’s infection rate is critical. We need to learn from the states that have managed to control the coronavirus, and see what lessons can be applied where it is still out of control
california and texas both got Fs

new york and new jersey got Bs
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05-20-2020 , 06:43 PM
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JetBlue’s Founder Helped Fund A Stanford Study That Said The Coronavirus Wasn’t That Deadly

A Stanford whistleblower complaint alleges that the controversial John Ioannidis study failed to disclose important financial ties and ignored scientists’ concerns that their antibody test was inaccurate.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml...-whistleblower
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05-20-2020 , 07:12 PM
Today was the biggest global daily increase.
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05-20-2020 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOut
Well, it's been a few hours and nobody has contested this, so I guess it's true and you goofs all spent 373 pages on nothing?

Also, I personally know of people who have either been hospitalized or died due either directly to COVID or suspected involvement, who were in their 40s and otherwise presumed fairly healthy.

Might also want to look into the inflammatory disease affecting children post COVID infection.
you could also get cancer and die, or a stroke, or you could get hit by a bus, do we need to keep listing more stuff that are not impossible but unlikely?
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05-20-2020 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
If your friend got it randomly while out and about and her roommate got it from her, in close contact indoors, then the roommate was in considerably more danger. That is called the 'viral load' -- proximity and frequency of contact with the infected person can make it much worse.
Yeah he got hit a lot harder. I don't think either one of them were being super careful.
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05-20-2020 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
article that shows the graph of every state and gives them a grade based just on trajectory

https://fair.org/home/grading-the-st...virus-control/



california and texas both got Fs

new york and new jersey got Bs
These grade reveal that there are only two successful strategies in the US:
1.) Be a sparsely population, very rural state
2.) Have such a huge outbreak of cases before you implement a lockdown that you develop partial herd immunity
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05-20-2020 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
article that shows the graph of every state and gives them a grade based just on trajectory

https://fair.org/home/grading-the-st...virus-control/



california and texas both got Fs

new york and new jersey got Bs

That might be the dumbest thing I’ve read today and I’ve spent a good hour on twitter.
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05-20-2020 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
you could also get cancer and die, or a stroke, or you could get hit by a bus, do we need to keep listing more stuff that are not impossible but unlikely?
If we had the same number of deaths from stroke in the same time period, I think there would be quite the concern. And somehow I doubt the risk of being hit by a bus or facing detrimental effects due to COVID are anywhere near similar. You can take some pretty proven precautions against being hit by a bus, namely looking for one before stepping onto the road.

In fact, there's been an increase in strokes in young, seemingly healthy people possibly connected to COVID.

https://www.tctmd.com/news/stroke-su...9s-culpability
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05-20-2020 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
These grade reveal that there are only two successful strategies in the US:
1.) Be a sparsely population, very rural state
2.) Have such a huge outbreak of cases before you implement a lockdown that you develop partial herd immunity
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/from-our...-misconception

There is no herd immunity for a while .
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05-20-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Merry Christmas
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/from-our...-misconception

There is no herd immunity for a while .
Herd immunity is not exactly the right term for what I am describing.
What New York and Italy have right now is probably not herd immunity, but a smaller percentage of the population sufficient to get the R down below 1 when combined with social distancing. E.g. if 20% are immune, and this reduces the R from 1 to 0.8, this would have dramatic effect on reducing new cases as the effect multiplies over time.
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05-20-2020 , 09:05 PM
we don't really know why ny's numbers went down so much. could be that so many people were dying that the population took it seriously and adjusted their behavior. or it could have nothing to do with that. we don't know.
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