Nobody cares whether or not slimeballs are laughing at dead people

Seems US health care bureaucrats were massively inept:

1. first test kit failed while denying private sector to provide the test
2. the 6 foot thing was never possible to be true
3. the mask back and forth was a joke, since the 1918 pandemic the effectiveness of masks both ways has been known
4. lying about the masks seems criminal, as millions have since made homemade masks but basically were misled about its importance, this also gave fuel to the "no mask" campaign
5. apparently zero preparation over the previous years in the way of stocking supplies in spite of always harping that a pandemic was inevitable
6. little to no preparation even now for the roving outbreaks that were predicted as inevitable
7 Fauci seems mealy mouthed all along, subtly so, which is why Trump kept him, he never would have kept him if he had spoken up as candidly early as he almost is now.


I'm sure I'm leaving plenty out. Total cluster. Abject incompetence and even indifference. Rescue measures were massively inept and corrupt. The US is one of the least admirable nations on earth. Systemic corruption that is, not a circumventing of law, but is the law. Maybe another manufactured "moral war" is the answer.

Has the Darwin Award ever been won by a country?

UK should be in running.

The top political aide in the country, personal adviser (not civil service) Dominic Cummings drove 250 miles whilst positive with C19 and visited a castle.

Protest group Led by Donkeys made a well produced time line video of the UK failings and broadcast said video onto the side of said castle.

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Well they do seem to care because to call someone a slimeball that's doing so would mean...you know what, never mind.

Masks do protect the wearer.

It absolutely does not have higher DPM than USA currently, it's close to 50% lower using a 3-day avg for Sweden.

Sweden's CFR is lower than: Belgium, UK, Spain, Holland, Italy, France, Hungary, Canada*.

The issue isn't which country has higher CFR for the first couple months, but over the long-term of the virus.

I assume that's not too difficult for you to understand.

* Source: Johns Hopkins, July 1st.

I assume is not to difficult to understand that even with the cluster **** that is USA Sweden's over all DPM is still over 25% higher than USA.

Again the reality that your ******ed world view is dependent on, is ignoring all the stats of those countries that neighbour Sweden. All of which crush Sweden.

Sweden is a rallying cry only for the very bottom tier of slappies.

Trust me, I was not using it as a trump card. I was researching the issue to the best of my ability and I trusted the CDC to have a the "actual scientific knowledge" of these issues and to be honest. To be honest, when I can't test it myself, I don't much trust "actual scientific knowledge" from the internet, especially when it disagrees with the consensus of experts we pay to deal with this sort of thing.

That trust has now been eroded, though it doesn't add to how much I trust random utubers. If the CDC was lying, that's horrifying. If they were just flailing due to the unusual situation and based on previous corona-virus behavior, it's disappointing, as they are supposed to be our experts, but given how much contradictory info was flying around, well... misfeasance is less bad than malfeasance.

I'm 100% on team mask now. Though I don't expect it to be highly effective at protecting me, it can't hurt and might help on that. But now that we know about asymptomatic spreading, I wear a mask to protect others in case I'm sick and don't know it. Plus, it sends a social distancing message.

Political decisions.
And we're only mid-1st wave.

Anyone wonder why FL is so ****ed right now, here you go.

I think it was a combo. Inexcusable lying, plus a sense that only N95 masks provide adequate protection. A substantial fraction of scientists did not believe that cloth and surgical masks provide nearly the protection that they do. It was a massive failure, but made 1,000 times worse by politicians mocking mask use and turning it into some kind of test of machismo. If we had collectively agreed that we screwed up and universally agreed that masks were a good idea, not a reflection of your political identity, we'd be in a completely different place. The initial failure to embrace mask wearing was bad, but a somewhat understandable failure. Turning it into a political statement was horrifically inept, bordering on criminally stupid.

Interestingly, science has really only recently embraced this notion. The conventional wisdom is still that it has a small positive effect on self-protection compared to the effect of protecting others.

Pretty much everyone here (Chicago) wears a mask inside stores and the like. I always wear one and wear it properly. But at least 50% wear them below their nose so what the hell is the point?

Florida sucks. Those people are pathetic and think their defiance is a sign of strength and they couldn't be more wrong.

Such selfishness in the US it kind of embarrasses me and I've never felt any real sense of patriotism

way too many people do this, and have them down on their chin even below their mouth too much of the time.

It's less than 100% efficient but more than 0% efficient, especially if it's the mouth-breathers who are doing it.

That would be a pretty good trailer for a horror film.

Needs more love.

Also need more love.

They really decided now was the time to open up the theme park? Definitely not math guys running things in florida.

Sure they are. The math tells them they need to make money. That is what companies do.

Pretty much. Money is the only number that matters.

Florida County Commissioner Who Voted Against Masks In Hospital With COVID

This is pretty much the same way I see it here in Denmark. It is not masks that is the first line against this virus, it is social distancing that works, stay at home or go for a walk but keep to the people that live under the same roof as you.
If masks were important the EU would have lokked like Wuhan without the draconian measures that were used there.

Maybe it is a sign of Trump having succes with his retoric that even those who are opposed to everything he stands for are arguing that masks are high on the list of concerns.