Seen a few of those types of promos, and it makes sense. Good if it reaches some that would otherwise swerve it.

Agree.

$25 free-play at casinos would do wonders imo. And most of that money would never make it out the casino door. Win/win, so to speak.

That's a great shout, I'd bet some would end up trying to get dozens of vaccines, just to pick up the freeplay

Bet it would work better than lotteries.

In Delaware, if you win the drawing, you win a license plate.

Quite a few double jabbed people have been hospitalised in the UK which has a much bigger sample size.

The important take away though is that there are nearly twice as many people under 50 in hospital as over. That cohort has a much lower level of vaccination.

So being vaccinated obviously offer a great deal of protection also given that about half as many people are in hospital with this wave relative to the amount of cases compared to the last wave.

Just the facts mam, just the facts.

A very well known and credible double-jabbed UK newsreader caught Covid at the G7 superspreader event in Cornwall and he had symptoms, though thankfully not serious.

His trip report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57640550

^^^^^that's all you could find after who knows how many hours searching for doom porn daily

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/h...-immunity.html

Well this goes against my earlier post saying that most people will likely need boosters. But at any rate this is good news if it proves to be true.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57636360

Better late than never I suppose, but holy crap. I think everyone keeping up with this knew N95 (FFP3) masks would be far more effective from a long time ago.

Remember back in 2019, or early 2020, when the CDC openly stated that N95 masks weren't effective against COVID and that the general population should stockpile these masks? I remember. Despite understanding why they've openly lied like that, it was still a scummy thing to do. Either way, most of us knew back then that N95 was the real deal.

Those surgical masks were enough to prevent you from spreading the virus across long distances (6ft or so) to other people. That's about all they can do. If you want to be truly protected, you gotta go N95. I can't imagine what needs to happen for someone wearing an N95 to get infected. They'd have to be about as lucky (unlucky?) as some of these people, https://www.nodepositworld.com/featu...nd-and-online/ . Now, an N95 mask combined with two jabs of vaccine might be an overkill unless you're literally working with COVID patients all day long.

I happen to have an anesthesiologist in my immediate family, and he went through the worst of both COVID spikes with PPE only. He's vaccinated now, so he's most likely off the hook for good. But yeah, N95 masks are the only real way to go, for sure.

The "facts" as you've presented them are meaningless scare stats that do not include vaccination rates, and it's either because you are a moron or because you are intentionally presenting "facts" in misleading ways. Hope you're left-handed, because 90% of all people hospitalized with Covid are right-handed.

No, I said "lol at variant fears for the fully vaccinated", and my ire has always been directed against those who fearmonger about what the mindset should be for the vaccinated.

While I recognize and bemoan as a human being that more contagious variants can have tragic consequences among the unvaccinated, posting about it doesn't give me sexual gratification the way it does for you when you type out "Kent" and "Delta Plus" and such.

My friend's, wife's, cousin's, 40yo fully vaxxed husband died today.
Vaxxed with sinocrap but still.

Hey America,
If you're done having lotteries to get people to take the vax, the rest of the world sure could use them.
I'm prepaid for my Moderna and on the waiting list. 1st batch of vax estimated to arrive in October.
White knuckle ride till then.

There is nothing "scare" about them, they are just objective facts, they dont care if you like them or are scared by them.

All, the "scare" that is your baggage, your emotion. Not mine.

Pure utter unadulterated projection.

Its pure projection by you, pure immediate sand appears in your vagina, the moment anyone dares to simply elucidate data that isnt everything is totally fine.

Your emotional reaction to such data is neurotic in the extreme.

The "facts": Relating them to the vaccination rate of the UK is not that important and your attempt to relate them to a correlation = causation fallacy just demonstrates your lack of deductive reasoning skills. You are not very rational which is probably why you let emotion so strongly dictate your opinion.

Ill now proceed to make the above stats unscary abracadabra.

UK vaccination: one dose 84%. Both dose 52%

All I have ever argued is that the increased infectiousness of Delta means that social logistical problems are possible, e.g. pressure on health care, mask mandates etc etc etc.

I have never claimed there is going to be millions of deaths or anything close to doom porn like that.

I am interested purely in the numbers, and if some people who are double jabbed are still ending up in hospital, I simply want to know the quantity. Because Im not scared and emotional and just want to be informed.

Just for that you have you stalked me through this thread like a perverse weird freak of a dude.

Deal with your baggage and try and get over it.

Delta?? More like Alpha, amirite.

FFP3 is equivalent to N99 or KN99

I agree btw - making everyone wear FFP2/KN95 masks indoors from the start of March is the only thing that seemed to have any immediate effect here in Slovakia. (Obviously vaccines help too but that was still going slow at the start of March)

It makes me sad that this has gone on long enough where I'm not sure if Lektor is referencing March 2020 or 2021.

Sorry, 2021.

Indeed, I only write N95 there since the article mentions none of the others and that's the one we were frequently referencing in the early days of this thread with our primarily North American posters. And I don't think the 95/99 distinction is much of a difference here, but maybe it is.

Wasn't aware Slovakia had taken such measures, good on them!

There was the will to do it because they'd messed up so badly up to that point. For example the guy the previous government put in charge of buying PPE bought apartments for his father son and a couple of gold bars for himself.

I think pretty much all countries have had a mix of good and bad decisions though and the interactions between the decisions and people's behaviour is often hard to predict.

The mass Ag testing they were doing here up to that point might have been a good idea but it had the side effect that people with (meaningless) negative results started ignoring all the rules.

Thought please.

So tomorrow is my Mother's birthday. I am bringing over my 7 year old (vaccinated thru a study) and my 3 year old (not vaccinated). My brother (mid 30s) is not vaccinated. I told my parents that my 3 year old would stay with my wife and he could come and they said that wasn't an option. So I told him that until either he or my youngest is vaccinated, we can't have them together.

We have been going out to restaurants occasionally without her wearing a mask. Am I just 'punishing' him for being dumb, or am I ok doing so?

If you have all been going to restaurants unmasked, I think I would explore ways to visit your mother's without there being prolonged close contact between your youngest and your brother.

Just based on every boomer grandparent I've ever known, they almost expect you to handle this passive-aggressively: "Oh sorry [3-year-old] was really sick this morning. [Wife] had to stay home with [him/her]."

They seem to get offended that you couldn't even go through the trouble to make a BS flimsy excuse instead of the direct approach.

Of course it's too late for that now.

Well I already called and told him he wasn't coming and he is abiding by that.