Just wanted to pull this out, I know this kind of thing heavily AIDS up a thread, but this is just a blatant lie/falsehood, which is sadly a consistent feature of Lectors debating play book, so yea Im calling it out.

What I actually argued is that people should wear masks but not think they are a silver bullet that is going to stop C19 in it tracks. Which is of course true.

Anyone who wants to see some actual horrible takes on C19 by Lecktor simply has to read the very first page of this thread.

This story seems to say much more about the effectiveness of Sinovac than the potential danger of the delta variant to vaccinated people in the US.

I also wonder about places like the Seychelles which has a super high vaxx rate but still having a huge outbreak. It doesn't need to be refrigerated - but you still have to wonder about effectiveness if it gets super hot in transport and storage.

Surely its transported/stored under controlled temps?

Seems pretty likely that across the whole world in emergency level conditions quality control might slip every now and then.

Temp controlled transportation and storage is standard though.

Im sure there have been outlier cases of failure in this regard here and there, but it seems a reach to me to use it as a reason to explain teh Seychelles.

Its not impossible that is the reason, but its a very slim chance that it is imo.

This piece of garbage right here

Seems like he has his own immunization plan. Maybe it will work this time--one way or another.

Dipshit thinks he had covid in Nov. 2019. No test obv. He just knows.

took the JJ friday, everythign was fine arm didnt hurt too bad but around 3am i woke up in a cold sweat with fever/flu symptoms. its not as bad now i feel im getting a little better but holy **** it hit me like a truck sore/headache/shivers/flu i thought i could handle it butit was more than I imagined lol. I feel im slowly recovering tho

yeah it was brutal. i think i used the same phrase "felt like i got hit by a truck"

it was really bad for maybe 8 hours, but i didn't take advil for a while cuz i was trying to let it do it's work.

took about 30 hours to feel 100% normal

I havent eaten anything in almost 24hrs did you burp at all? I have been burping since I woke up this morning hahaha

Got AZ2 this last Wednesday. Approx 8 weeks after AZ1. No SE with either. I'm 57 though.
Parents just got Moderna2 and my brother Pfizer2. So now we just need a dumbass anti vaxxer in the family to guarantee survival!

My sister woke up choking the night of her J&J. Like literally being strangled, could not breath had to call 911. Throat was cleared by the time the ambulance showed up but interesting you mention burping.
She also has ulcers and other stress related issues so we kind of wrote it off to her health. Took her days to getting back to somewhat normal.

I'm a bit of a drinker so I know how to just pull the trigger and just puke when nauseated, which I did after my second shot and it helped. Just a little advice for those getting their second dose.

I suspect there are a lot of people thinking they will be "smart" by letting everyone else get the vaccine, assuming they'll be able to piggyback on the wider community protection, without having to get the shot themselves. Unfortunately for those people, too many others think the same way and they will end up giving the variants to each other. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they will likely enable new variants that might be vaccine-resistant.

We'll have to see what the Delta variant has to say about it.

How long till we run thru the whole greek alphabet

cant wait for Upsilon

Proportion of muslims by local council area.


Latest case map



Obviously correlation does not equal causation. Just as in a few months time the correlation in the US between proportion of people who believe the world is 6000 years old with Coronavirus cases will not equal causation.

If we don't see the same things looking at the data then I suppose we're too far apart for it to be worth responding to each other.

And btw iirc I won the life expectancy bet because you weren't able to post, as a regular on a poker forum, numerical predictions that could have beaten mine. Spectators don't get to win bets like that.

There was no bet there was just you making a prediction based on obviously faulty data and the prediction turned out to be completely wrong LDO, because at the time you were a its just flu bro.

The maps you provide of Muslims and national spread dont even support each other.

You keep taking static snap shots, when dynamic growth is the issue, as is obvious from the calamity you made of interpreting the Princess data, you just cant process information very well to build a hypothesis, you are extremely **** at it.

All those green areas where colours indicating much less case load a month ago. Wonder why areas with the most communal links with India are ahead of the curve?

We see plenty of blue areas that have no significant Muslim density, and would see more if you had not zoomed in the map to purposefully hide them.

Let me show you some data that relates to that dynamic growth which demonstrates the not remotely debatable fact of exponential nationwide growth and the relevant cohorts for that process:





There is absolutely no data or science or factual base to support your position, you are screaming madness into the void. You are being a complete freak and weird dude in a mad rush to blame Muslims.

Bigotry has sent you completely insane.

Areas with high travel interchange with India seeded and broke out first, and yes those areas will have had supporting variables, but now that seeding is nationwide and that is reality that only a freak would dispute.

Cliffs of Lectors position.

Unvaccinated Muslims must be spreading the rona because they are unvaccinated.

Those young unvaccinated white people not spreading it though.

I can't be the only one who thinks the OAK vs Lector derail is just the worst, right?

You are not.

Checking the deaths/million rankings for the first time in months. Is it accurate that Peru has 5700 deaths/million?! Making them the champs by an enormous margin?