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06-25-2021 , 06:56 AM

#16476

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

Israel is bringing back indoor mask mandate after cases have started rising again.

Highly vaccinated country.

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06-25-2021 , 07:16 AM

#16477

27offsuit

actions have consequences!

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re: Israel just saw 61% of infected were 1 dose, 60% showed symptoms, and 0% of fully vaccinated showed symptoms.

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06-25-2021 , 09:44 AM

#16478

loosekanen

USA#1, Oh Yeah!

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 27,838

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Originally Posted by brianr

…not yet approved by the FDA? I don’t understand your point.

The word "now" is redundant. The deaths were always among the unvaccinated.

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06-25-2021 , 09:53 AM

#16479

LKJ

Smugly Contemptuous

Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 96,031

It’s an efficient way of reporting on deaths while answering the question it would naturally raise now that vaccinated people are a significant part of the population.

Perhaps there’s a better phrasing, but the redundancy is whatever.

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06-25-2021 , 09:54 AM

#16480

marky147

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 773

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

re: Israel just saw 61% of infected were 1 dose, 60% showed symptoms, and 0% of fully vaccinated showed symptoms.

Don't you go spoiling the party, 27!

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06-25-2021 , 10:43 AM

#16481

Ungoliant

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,334

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

The word "now" is redundant. The deaths were always among the unvaccinated.

This is the most ridiculously nitpicky thing to complain about. You could maybe rephrase it, but as stated, the "now" is not redundant at all. If you remove it, you're left with "Nearly all COVID deaths in U.S. are among unvaccinated", which is completely ambiguous about the timeframe we're talking about. If you count all deaths since the beginning of the pandemic, then of course nearly all covid deaths are among the unvaccinated, but the point being made is that it's true of the deaths happening "now".

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06-25-2021 , 11:16 AM

#16482

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

re: Israel just saw 61% of infected were 1 dose, 60% showed symptoms, and 0% of fully vaccinated showed symptoms.

There is an increase in cases in Israel though

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06-25-2021 , 11:34 AM

#16483

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

There is an increase in cases in Israel though

Quick email the above to the relevant authorities in Israel and tell them.

Or maybe they have a reason for reintroducing indoor masks and are not just doing it for shits and giggles:

Spoiler:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-covid-cases

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06-25-2021 , 01:10 PM

#16484

nutella virus

banned

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Are vaccine truthers the ones driving these cases?

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06-25-2021 , 01:29 PM

#16485

Booker Wolfbox

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motherofgod.jpg, 12 cases per million.

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06-25-2021 , 01:45 PM

#16486

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

motherofgod.jpg, 12 cases per million.

Such a dumb hot take, 6 days ago it was 1.92 cases per million.

Lets take the take of the head of Israel’s pandemic response taskforce, Nachman Ash.

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“We are seeing a doubling every few days,”

Which as you can see is corroborated by the data.

Obviously if this trend bottoms out they can reconsider, but bringing back indoor masks is hardly going full lockdown.

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06-25-2021 , 01:57 PM

#16487

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

Internet is weird.

Post a neutral remark about a news item.

Israel is bringing back indoor masks (fact) because of a rise in cases (1.92cpm to 12cpm(fact))

Such a post should be proof from hot takes, as it posted with no commentary, and in no way was used to support an agenda or perspective, and is also objective fact.

On the internet people will find a way.

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06-25-2021 , 03:04 PM

#16488

nutella virus

banned

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Nobody personally attacked you, so what are you crying about

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06-25-2021 , 03:30 PM

#16489

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

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Originally Posted by nutella virus

Nobody personally attacked you, so what are you crying about

Where am I crying?

Wat?

Why even post that? Bring that AIDS.

I was just remarking on how people will find a way to be dumb.

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06-25-2021 , 03:53 PM

#16490

27offsuit

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Ok let's all refocus on anti-vaxxers being the only deaths in the next wave please. Or at least stop the bickering.

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06-25-2021 , 04:06 PM

#16491

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

Ok let's all refocus on anti-vaxxers being the only deaths in the next wave please. Or at least stop the bickering.

Slight problem.

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A total of 1,320 people have been admitted to hospital in England with the Delta variant as of 21 June, a rise of 514 on the previous week, according to the latest figures from Public Health England.

Nine hundred and two of the 1,320 people were under the age of 50 while 418 were over 50.

Of the 902 under 50, 695 (77%) were unvaccinated, 79 (9%) within 21 days of their first dose of vaccine, 85 (9%) more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine and 27 (3%) were fully vaccinated.

Of the 418 over 50, 136 (33%) were unvaccinated, nine (2%) within 21 days of their first dose of vaccine, 104 (25%) more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine and 163 (39%) were fully vaccinated.

Dont shoot the messenger, just repeating this:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0814bdddf9add6

Interestingly, when looking at under 50, double jab is really winning.

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Of the 902 under 50, 695 (77%) were unvaccinated, 79 (9%) within 21 days of their first dose of vaccine, 85 (9%) more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine and 27 (3%) were fully vaccinated.

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06-25-2021 , 04:16 PM

#16492

27offsuit

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That link said UK had ~111k new cases and that bodes poorly considering US had ~13k.

At the moment, I am happy I was able to get the Moderna double over say J&J or AZ, but TBD.

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06-25-2021 , 04:27 PM

#16493

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

That link said UK had ~111k new cases and that bodes poorly considering US had ~13k.

At the moment, I am happy I was able to get the Moderna double over say J&J or AZ, but TBD.

USA has only had 13K delta?

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06-25-2021 , 06:33 PM

#16494

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

There is an increase in cases in Israel though

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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

Quick email the above to the relevant authorities in Israel and tell them.

Or maybe they have a reason for reintroducing indoor masks and are not just doing it for shits and giggles:

We both agree that there has been an increase from 0 per 100K to 1 per 100K. If you look carefully my graph shows exactly the same increase that your does, just yours is more zoomed in on the right hand side.

I'm not sure why you think I'm disagreeing with you.

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06-25-2021 , 07:47 PM

#16495

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

Cmon, we are expected to believe that someone uses the graph you used to demonstrate a rise in cases.

The sarcasm of your post was obvious, and that is obvious as 27offsuit said nothing about there not being a rise in cases.

Its nothing to do with us agreeing.

Israel has brought back its mask mandate, because in the last week or so there has been a doubling of cases every few days.

This is what has happened, it does not require agreement.

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06-25-2021 , 11:13 PM

#16496

that_pope

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There will be riots if that comes to the USA. People are done with this.

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06-25-2021 , 11:20 PM

#16497

pokeraz

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Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,953

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Originally Posted by that_pope

There will be riots if that comes to the USA. People are done with this.

Yeah, but it may not be done with us. Just get vaccinated so you won’t die.

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06-25-2021 , 11:28 PM

#16498

LKJ

Smugly Contemptuous

Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 96,031

Yeah, some of these data points are discomfiting, but it very much feels like a variant would have to render the vaccines near-useless for mask mandates to come back on a broad scale here. And at this point it still looks like they're offering significant protection.

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06-26-2021 , 01:02 AM

#16499

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,195

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

Looks like masks are about to make a comeback:

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“Since the start of May, we have been looking at the top symptoms in the app users and they are not the same as they were,” he said. “The number one symptom is headache, then followed by sore throat, runny nose and fever.” More “traditional” Covid symptoms such as a cough and loss of smell were much rarer now he said, with younger people experiencing much more of a bad cold or “funny off feeling.”

Might be relevant to CallMeIshmael's case.

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06-26-2021 , 05:10 AM

#16500

Baltimore Jones

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835

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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

You were not posting it as a neutral fact, we can all hear you wanking off in the background anytime you're able to present "news" as an implied setback.

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

Looks like masks are about to make a comeback:

90% of people who get cancer under age 40 are right-handed.