a) stuff like oxygen masks already exist. A ventilator is for when you can't breathe on your own; they use positive pressure to force air into your lungs. This has to be extremely precise because it's very easy to destroy lungs and kill you. Your lungs usually work by negative pressure.

b) Most HIV meds cannot possibly work. HIV is a retrovirus, meaning that it contains RNA but forces your cell to reverse-transcribe that RNA into DNA. Your body does not ever do that (central dogma is DNA->RNA->protein) so we can target and completely block reverse transcriptase enzymes to stop HIV. Coronaviruses are not retroviruses so this has no hope of working.

LOL, nice one.

7 min. video, don't know if anyone posted it. Came out yesterday.

'Don't believe the numbers you see': Johns Hopkins professor says up to 500,000 Americans have coronavirus

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/marty...183558545.html

1, Short answer is no. Things like asthma inhalers are just bronchodilators and will not help at all. You could use an oxygen mask to relieve some of the early onset symptoms, but when it comes to life or death you NEED ventilation, which is always done in ICU. It is not really tanks as such at that stage, they are either intubated or put on so called ECMOs.

Generally speaking if you are healthy, have no underlying conditions and are below 60 you should not have anything to worry about, there are people who recovered who had no symptoms at all. The average age in Italy for deaths for example are 80.1.

2, The AIDS medicine part is heavily debatable. Even if it would work (it doesnt but thats another question), it is an extremely expensive medicine and would not be available in such large quantities. Our best hope is that the virus dies down with quarantine and that they develop and release a vaccine within 12-18 months.

February 26th

Donald J. Trump: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

Thanks Trumpers! You've helped expose to the world the real **** hole country.

If a lot more people have Coronavirus than is being reported the death rate should be a lot lower than is being reported right now too right?

Sorry 2 days feels like 2 weeks and I forget what was posted where.

In the lockdown cities in China, one person per household can go outside once a week for groceries. If you’re caught on the street w/o your stamp for that week you get arrested. The stamps have patriotic slogans about everyone doing their part.

This was obvious right from the start. When we had 6 people dying in Washington from a virus that takes 20 days to kill, it was obvious that it had already been all over the west coast for weeks.

As always 2p2 was far ahead of the rest of the world. If he had any power we could have saved so many Sklanskyviruses.

Right, there's an inflection point when having more infections than reported becomes a good thing.

At least he says he thinks it will be over in 2 or 3 months like all the other horrible viruses.
Doesn't seem like it but one could only hope.

****. Maybe it is fake.

Yes, I believe this is true. According to what I posted upthread about the congressional hearing with Dr. Fauci (legit guy), people are either asymptomatic, slightly symptomatic, or severely symptomatic.

Mild symptoms seem to be a cough and fever. I'm not sure about you, but when I get a cough, the last thing I do is test my temperature. I don't even have a thermometer, and I certainly won't go to the hospital or get tested over a cough. It would be absurd to think that a cough is covid-19, especially during winter, thought it's obviously a non-zero number.

I'm thinking that a significant amount of people here in La La Land have been exposed, and a non-significant number are active carriers. This is why people are going to quarantine even if they don't show any symptoms. In many ways, it's a silent virus, causing ugly reactions in a lot of people, but apparently not affecting many others. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of cases are asymptomatic. Mind that the average case takes 14 days to express itself, which is why there is a 14 day quarantine period.

Of course, quarantine only helps if you are actually exposed during that time. If not, well, you'll get exposed later.

how about shortening the time for clinical trials? i suspect that many people here in USA#9 would be willing to fade the risk of a vaccine that has not gone through full safety trials. Efficacy is relatively quick to figure out, as I understand the issue.

You might want to invest in a thermometer ... fever onset is almost immediate once infected.

Holy ****. We're likely to lose hundreds of thousands of people.........

Bout 350k

Sorry

The risk is you put out a vaccine that actually makes things worse somehow.

I’ve been curious about this too. It appears that the virologists don’t want to do that. I guess lots of candidate vaccines fail trials and they don’t want one that doesn’t work (or worse, makes people sick).

China recognize their problem then pulled out draconian levels to contain the virus. Much like H1N1 from 11 years ago they are prepared for these type of situations. So they locked everybody down forced companies to close and or work from home. Everybody who tested positive had to download a app to be tracked and monitored. Drones to monitor the situation. Then build 2 temporary hospitals converted another dozen to house patient beds and bought up every ventilator they could find. In the end they were able to confine the virus to only one major area of their country and reduce their numbers and the people are practicing safe caution. In the US that's not an option as soon as you lockdown a city or state people will scream civil rights widespread panic as the American government and their 2 party system will argue about everything delaying precious time to save people. Eventually you overload the hospitals and people who could be saved will die because there is not enough supplies and equipment to treat them.

In the end this will help us for the future as i think America will realize what they are lacking and better prepare themselves for the future against another pandemic with a higher mortality rate. Unlike other doomsday scenarios pandemics have one of the highest probability.

Theory would suggest giving the rushed vaccine to those most at-risk and waiting for the normal regulatory steps to immunise everyone else, with medical workers t.b.d

Yeah I think my sister would be glad to be a guinea pig - except she might not even be a candidate for a vaccine due to auto-immune disease.

Indeed. I saw an expert today say that the 12 - 18 months timetable was even agressive for this virus. He said two years was a better projection.

Well it takes 4-6 weeks to kill you so not sure yet

There are 10M people in LA county. If this is really a 2% mortality rate and every single person gets infected and sick, then 200k are deep-sixed.

That number is meaningless because we don't know how many cases are asymptomatic, we don't know how many cases are people who got sick and didn't report, we don't know how many people never carried this virus, and we don't know how many of the people getting sick are in a high-risk group.

That's a ton of variables, so there's no way to say X amount of people will die. At best, we can use similar populations from other cities and do some ratios, but then again, it's not snowing here, so who can say what the transmission rate will be in our weather?

We currently have 53 confirmed cases and 1 death. Seven days ago, we had 11 deaths in the US and there are presently 41 deaths.

It's hard to say because, even last week, they were able to track the origins of a lot of cases. It's well into community spread now (unable to track the origin), so it's probably going to get pretty bad soon. It's just a question of how bad.

I'm a betting man (obv), but I'd be fool to take any over/under in LA.