I'm getting close to 'back the **** up' mode with these morans standing behind me in lines.

Norway is largely back to normal, btw.

I think the main issue with Sweden's strategy, as you suggest, is that they front loaded their deaths. Even now with the surge in cases, we are seeing far fewer deaths across Europe due to improvements in treatment options and strategies. The full picture remains to be seen, but regardless of that I personally think that leaving your population at the mercy of a disease we knew very little about at the time was a callous and misguided strategy.

<-- leans in to about a foot away, mask slipping off nose, bellows "WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU THROUGH THE MASK."

mask "slipping off" nose...

suzz you're getting a roundhouse elbow to the temple buddy.

i dont want people breathing me close to me cuz they might have covid, but fighting with them is great! fighting is much safer than standing near each other

This. Even in the eventuality that it can never be stopped and about 80% of every country ends up getting it, if you front load your *cases* you increase your absolute number of deaths because the cases all come together and at a time when medical expertise isn't as high.

I said something back in March/April like, "we (in Slovakia) can't stop this as a Schengen country with an open border, but if we delay it then when we get it we'll have a ton of experienced Italian doctors to tell us what worked for them and maybe come over and help and lend us their spare ventilators"

We're now at 41 people dead anyway. 7269 cases total (of which 338 were just today) - our "second wave" is basically the first wave - there were only 1400 cases in the first wave - and 28 dead, so at least so far it looks like treatment is better now than it was earlier. (We have 5.5 million people for purposes of comparison).

Only 41 dead out of 5.5 million? You can do better! With a USA #1 death rate you would have 3400 dead! USA, USA, USA

spain and france have more new cases per day per capita than usa

And trolling 2+2

Amen, Dickless! Which is to say: Dickless!

I got in trouble in middle school for turning in a creative writing assignment where my main character's name was Dickless Wonder.

Also what's a Soy Boy?

I'm curious what you'd all consider more risky:

A. Drinking outside in a relatively distanced bar, wearing no mask

Or

B. Playing poker in a casino wearing an N95

C.

There is a significant gap between how witty you think this is and how witty it actually is

It wasn't intended to be witty. It was meant to convey that I thought that A and B were both very bad ideas and that there is no valid reason to narrow one's choices to those two activities or to guess which might be riskier.

Sorry that was so difficult for you.

B AINEC

i'm fine eating outdoors in restaurants

0 chance i go play poker. n95 sure, but the casino chips, shared cards, the inevitable touching of your face/adjusting the mask

this is a slam dunk B

A correct rank order of activities from risky to not risky is incredibly useful for society -- insane to think otherwise.

you wouldnt catch me playing poker inside at a casino in a full hazmat suit right now, lol at even considering that

It's a libtard (drinks soy lattes). IE - Pajama Boy:

A: Fine unless your drinking buddies have it.

B: Is the mask well fitted and you have zero facial hair? If so not bad. If not, it's the same as a surgical mask.

The “How dumb do I want to be today” charts.

I worry about when it gets cold, especially if you're in a cold/dry place like Denver. Studies show the virus breaks down much more quickly in the presence of water vapor (absolute humidity).

Air at 80 degrees can hold something like 4x as much water vapor as air at 20 degrees - at the same relative humidity.

Look out for 20 degrees. I predict thigns will change. The virus will last a lot longer which means easier contagion and higher viral loads.

I would never have even thought of this! I see what you mean though, with air getting in through where the facial hair meets the edge of the mask.

In any kind of hospital, zoo, or chemical situation where you seriously need to wear an N-95, you have to shave your beard.

Total deal-breaker for me. I shaved off my beard for the first time in 22 years and found out I look like Mitch McConnell without a beard. Every time I saw myself in the mirror it was like a bad acid trip - horrifyingly depressing.