This is completely untrue. Everyone worth listening to strongly believed that IFR was between .5% and 1%. Numbers much higher than 1% hadn't been thrown around since like... January?

Criticize the positions he takes. With respect, nobody wants to read personal attacks.

Italy when they were turning away anyone over 50 might have climbed to 4% in some places but that's it from anything I've seen.

Study after study keeps pegging the IFR at around .5-1%.

Summer weather could help fight coronavirus spread but won’t halt the pandemic

Yes. The only justifiable argument for IFR being higher like 2% was/is if more people die than need to because of the healthcare system being overstressed, we're short on ventilators, etc. which fortunately hasn't happened because of the flattening of the curve. Of course, this could still definitely happen with things opening back up, or a worse 2nd wave in the fall.

But yes, the natural IFR is .5-1%.

Point taken ty.

State parks in Myrtle Beach were just closed because of over capacity. Traffic is near 4th of July level. Restaurants, bars and hotels are lolling at “ restrictions & guidelines “ as establishments ease into real capacity levels. The hoaxer crowd is winning the debate on SM as we have been ~ 6 cases daily for weeks now in Horrycounty.
And yes the new rallying cry for the red necks is lawn mowers kilt more people yesterday than Covid Flu

https://www.wmbfnews.com/2020/05/15/...-coroner-says/

To quote my favorite hack golfer of all time

"Hey everybody, we’re all gonna get laid!"

I understand. I honestly have no idea. I do agree with your last part. Everyone that’s coughed since November has had a brush w Covid and thinks they have had it.

In a perfect world we would have cooperating governments w cooperating pieces inside of them and these topics would have been ironed out months ago.

Your "negative" antibody test may have been faulty. UK purchased tons of faulty antibody tests from China too. It's a thing.

The seven stages of COVID-19:

shock, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, testing, and acceptance

NYC sent positive patients back to their nursing homes and Florida didn't.

Can someone please explain the difference between a walk n and a reservation in terms of health and restaurants? NOLA is opening but no walk ins, need reservations. Completely ridiculous and unenforceable?

I'm extremely aware the antibody tests were shite at the time. I was just curious about the process. A positive test would have led me to dig further.

And at the same time those USC and Standford studies came out, which even though rigged to show a higher prevalence - still didn't show anywhere near the prevalence if that weird cold thing everyone in LA got in Nov-Jan could trigger a covid antibody test to show positive.

The common cold can be caused by more than 200 different viruses. Four of those are coronaviruses. If someone was infected with one of those four coronaviruses recently, they may still have T cells which can help them not become severely ill from COVID-19.

That's why I was interested to hear if anyone knows of a poker dealer (or older daycare worker or teacher?) who had been hospitalized. Maybe they are right about their immune systems being really strong due to constant exposure to pathogens with no PPE.

4/1 - 5157 (^26%)(1072 deaths)
4/2 - 6061 (^18%)(904 deaths)
4/3 - 7400 (^22%)(1339 deaths)
4/4 - 8500 (^15%)(1100 deaths)
4/5 - 9666 (^14%)(1166 deaths)
4/6 - 11,000 (^14%)(1334 deaths)
4/7 - 12,931 (^18%)(1931 deaths)
4/8 - 14,831 (^15%)(1900 deaths)
4/9 - 16,720 (^13%)(1889 deaths)
4/10 - 18,817(^13%)(2097 deaths)
4/11 - 20,650(^10%)(1833 deaths)
4/12 - 22,157(^7%)(1507 deaths)
4/13 - 23,674(^7%)(1517 deaths)
4/14 - 26,094(^10%)(2420 deaths)
4/15 - 28,605(^10%)(2511 deaths)
4/16 - 34,845(^22%)(6240 deaths)*
*-4k previous deaths tacked on
4/17 - 37,308(^7%)(2463 deaths)
4/18 - 39,116(^5%)(1808 deaths)
4/19 - 41,187(^5%)(2071 deaths)
4/20 - 42,965(^4%)(1778 deaths)
4/21 - 45,435(^6%)2470 deaths)
4/22 - 48,035(^6%)(2600 deaths)
4/23 - 50,451(^5%)(2416 deaths)
4/24 - 52,478(^4%)(2027 deaths)
4/25 - 54,177(^3%)(1699 deaths)
4/26 - 55,512(^2.5%)(1335 deaths)
4/27 - 56,722(^2%)(1210 deaths)
4/28 - 59,061(^4%)(2339 deaths)
4/29 - 61,568(^4%)(2507 deaths)
4/30 - 63,836(^3.5%)(2268 deaths)
5/1 - 65,708(^3%)(1872 deaths)
5/2 - 67,172(^2%)(1464 deaths)
5/3 - 68,390(^1.8%)(1218 deaths)
5/4 - 69,788(^2%)(1398 deaths)
5/5 - 72133(^3%)(2345 deaths)
5/6 - 74,687(3.5%)(2554 deaths)
5/7 - 76,650(2.5%)(1963 deaths)
5/8 - 78,318(^2%)(1668 deaths)
5/9 - 79,814(^2%)(1498 deaths)
5/10 - 80,605(^1%)(791 deaths)
5/11 - 81,612(^1%)(1007 deaths)
5/12 - 83,200(^2%)(1588 deaths)
5/13 - 84,934(^2%)(1734 deaths)
5/14 - 86,701(^2%)(1767 deaths)
5/15 - 88,352(^2%)(1651 deaths)

I know and I'm very glad you got tested. It just seems from your other posts that you think it wasn't COVID, but it's inconclusive.

I mean, how can a virus that spreads like this not have infected almost everyone who played at Commerce?

Maybe it's to help them have the right amount of staff and collect info for contact tracing?

BTW, CA gov said providing info for contact tracing is voluntary, not required.

Just checked Florida and it is 47 AGAIN. Uncanny. They've got a serious "governor" on that ... only explanation I think.

Just imagining the viral shedding constantly happening while singing in a closed space. Like John Coffey in The Green Mile.

How is it ridiculous? With walk-ins, if they are full then people will congregate waiting for a table to open up. By forcing reservations that won't happen.

Sure if it was around. But the first case in LA was in Feb. I think. There was no stealth spread in Dec.

The bolded is a both huge and subjective caveat. I will not argue that such people were worth listening to (I was in fact, arguing that they weren't), but I promise you that people were throwing around numbers up to 4% based on the Italian statistics of CFR, their misunderstanding of the difference between CFR and IFR, and their gut feelings of undercounts.

They will continue to accept walk ins at an overwhelming % of places either by skirting the regulation and having people call from outside the door to “ reserve “ 5 minutes into the future or whenever the restaurant gets off a wait. They have been closed. Can u honestly picture any restaurant turning away walk ins? I can’t . It’s also virtually unenforceable.

If reservations are running behind people will still congregate outside in groups. If the situation is anything like where I live, people will be maskless and on top of each other in public by day 2 of the opening.
Reservations are just one of many useless appeasements local governments are throwing together to make it look like opening up not cause a spike. I’ve yet to see he that isn’t completed BS. They tried “only 1 family in an elevator at a time “ here . Lol total idiocy . It’s all one big GAMBOL despite how u dress it up .

Easter Sunday in the Bible Belt was over a month ago. People did their church sheet in various ways and had normal 6-30 person gatherings w olds all over the place. Contrary to my predictions, there was no spike, no **** storm .. nothing. It’s now gratefully a nothing burger down here or there is some major conspiracy # fudging going on. I’m leaning towards nothing burger because I don’t know any sick people.

What you claimed was: "there was still no good info on Infection Fatality Rate (IFR)"

There was plenty of good info on it, and there was strong consensus in the scientific community that it was between .5% and 1%. You're trying to defend the indefensible. That study was pure disinformation and propaganda. It accomplished nothing positive.

This makes NO sense at all. None. I don't know anyone who has died in a car accident, had HIV or had Ebola therefore these things aren't important?

I really hope you live in your mom's basement, and aren't free to roam around without supervision

My county breaks out deaths by age group, we've been on lockdown for just over two months now:

Under 50 - 1.3% of deaths
Under 60 - 4.5% of deaths, 21 people total

Over 90 - 24.0% of deaths
80-89 - 37% of deaths [i.e almost all nursing homes].

We're already down to below 30 new infections a day, outside nursing homes, out of almost a million people spread over ~500 sq miles. The Gov said he won't think about opening until after June 5th.

I think it's time to re-open, limit restaurant & retail capacity, still wear masks outside, it's hard to see the data any other way -- obviously keep nursing homes, etc quarantined.