Oh yes...

I live a stone's throw from a massive homeless population, and if there is going to be one place where people ought to worry, especially with the relatively chili weather, it would be any area where the homeless are living. They are sleeping outside, super vulnerable, and since Hollywood, Santa Monica, etc, are populated, people indoors would be equally as vulnerable. It's doubly bad because these homeless hotspots tend to have loads of tourists.

No one in downtown or Hollywood is walking around with masks. Yeah, the marathon has a lot of people watching, but it's nothing like the crush of people you see in these areas on a typical Saturday night. The various clubs and bars are packed cheek to jowl. If it was going to spread fast, it would have already done so. There has been a few major events in downtown that have not been canceled as it is.

Last night, I did a set at a club. There was about 2 thousand people in a relatively tiny room with steam being sprayed all over. Guys and gals rubbing bodies, holding hands, kissing, and shaking hands.

And before you say it's nothing but young kids that goes to these bars, clubs, and events, no, not even close. We also have the artwalk in downtown coming up this Thursday. It'll be the usual cluster**** of people of all ages, walking around in relatively chili weather.

Life is going on, and a marathon would hardly be the only and largest vector that any of us would really have to worry about. It always sucks for traffic, and honestly, I never once met someone who went to see a marathon. It's about the most minor LA event I could think of.

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It's truly upsetting to see this virus turn into a political and virtue signalling situation.

/rant

Mmm, chili weather.

32 million infected by the flu and 18,000 deaths. I'm taking my precautions against the flu instead. I've been in my basement for six straight days eating powdered milk and spam.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...ergamo_in_the/

This is what's going on in Italy right now. 3 weeks ago Italy had 3 confirmed cases.

Are you aware of the average American's diet?

Which countries have a no-poop diet?

I have a question for any EU people in the thread:

As I understand it, part of being an EU country means open borders between members.

If there is country X which currently has low infection rates, are they even allowed to close their borders to other EU citizens? Could country X reject people from (say) Italy specifically?

I saw a doctor on the Today show this morning, host asked if her elderly parents shuold stay home from Sunday mass. Doctor hemmed and hawed and finally said "if people in church are coughing or sneezing", "depends on your risk tolerance", etc.

We are talking about draconian measures in other countries, but is it really so hard to at least come right out and tell everyone over 65 to stay home as much as possible and avoid ALL gatherings, including church? This is how lack of leadership ends up killing people.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...to-coronavirus

Juk

Interesting that Germany has 1151 cases and zero deaths.

There was one German guy on holiday in Egypt who's passed away. I think technically that was our first death. Didn't sound like he contracted it in Egypt either.

I started to use my car to work today instead of the subway. Cutting at least some contacts. Will continue until a vaccine is developed or having gone through the corona with tests and all. We all take our small, maybe uneffective steps...

Yeah, I've started meditating 10 minutes a day and praying for the victims. FWIW.

There are at least a couple of different strains and one of the strains seems more virulent.

Problem with that though is there is speculation that you can contract one strain and recover and then contact the other strain and die because you were so weakened by the first strain.

don't sleep on brain health. likely helps immune systems.

https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-late...rus/a-52687246

Juk

I read somewhere yesterday that somebody had been found to have both strains at the same time (read that much over the last few days it could have been fake news though).

Juk

And as I'm typing this I see the breaking news that there has been the first confirmed death in Germany (Kreis Heinsberg) now.

Regardless, that's impressively low so far, I find it interesting as well.

I work for a residence for the elderly and we cancel everything left and right at this time. One of our nurses is in quarantine now as she had contact with a confirmed case. We would be very lucky to never get the virus in here. I expect it to happen.

OTOH people die here all the time anyway

Well it’s at least 3 deaths since above had 2 plus the one who traveled to Egypt.

And how many of the 1151 still have it? This thing takes 4-6 weeks to kill people, so that 3 could easily become 12 (1% death rate) or higher in a few weeks from this pool of 1151 infected. Or it could have hit a cluster of younger people so the 1151 skew young and will have a better shot at surviving.

Countries are responding in completely different ways.

China shut down most of the country for more than a month and some areas are still shut down.

South Korea seems to be be testing everyone they can, tracing contacts, and trying to stop it from getting completely out of control.

Italy had given up trying to test it and stop it and were urging safe practices and not moving around much while they treat the most serious cases. They're only reporting the serious cases that show up at a hospital at this point I think which is why their serious/death ratios are so high compared to total cases. Now Italy is trying to quarantine entire regions.

USA? It's just the flu except not really because the flu is worse.

Let’s start the conspiracy now that China created it and let it get slightly out of control so they could put a quick end to it, let it travel to the us and decimate us and could take over a lot of our huge companies at heavy discounts while we are in crisis mode.

I know someone thats a nurse a major hospital. She returned from a domestic vacation and was extremely sick for like a week and a half with flu like symptoms. She didn't miss a single shift at work and wasn't tested at all. She said her hospital isn't concerned or worried about the virus which seems insane to me.

Self quarantines aren't going to work. People will be told to stay away from crowds, etc and you know what they will do? "Oh, it's ok if I go to the movies on Wed night" or "It's ok I can eat out if I get a corner table " or "My child has a school play, I'll just stand in the back"

Trusting the general populace to not just rationalize doing unsafe things is sheer stupidity.

The only way to protect yourself is to treat every person as if they are infected and act accordingly. The government isn't going to save you. You have to save yourself.

TLDR: You can't prevent it from spreading because people are stupid.