Be concerned for the journey of others.

Be brave when you face hardship.

Be brave when you face illness.

Be brave when you face your mortality.

For such is a good accounting of ourselves.

Why? I would love to be riding this out in Key West.

March 20 14,306--->19,631 = +5325 = 37% increase


I'll take it I guess.


What I find concerning atm is this graph:



I'm no scientist, but this looks like we are going to have the absolute worst results of the entire world. Sad!

I'm calling it the Trump Virus from now on.

I like this a lot. P.S. Im high and rambled on much longer than intended.

In the last few years I've developed an anxiety about facing mortality. Mind you, I'm not at all afraid of being dead, if I were to be sniped in the head from behind completely unawares(Abe Lincoln'd!), c'est la vie. Its the idea that death is imminent, and it doesn't care if I want to watch tonight's ballgame, and not having any say over the timing of it.

I can't imagine how on edge I'd be if I were old or had existing respiratory issues.

I want to see how this plays out! I've long thought to myself that I want to see some significant world changing occurrence. (For example, I thought that if the 12-21-2012 prophecies came through, it would have been an interesting life experience). Well now that time is upon us, and I wish it weren't. But it is definitely interesting.

If this starts happening in more places, doesn't it make the numbers as reported pretty much useless? I'm guessing they won't report "assumed but not confirmed" cases as part of the total, and if people start dying who haven't been tested, who knows if they will be included either.

You're reading it wrong. We're about to raise the roof on that graph! USA #1!

Its repeatedly been said this will bankrupt more people than it kills. Wouldn't be surprised if it 'bankrupts' the whole country.

Anyone doing couple lockdown? Where you and your friends, who live within a few blocks, both agree to self-isolate and see no one else, but you'll still see each other?

Sounds kinky

indeed, lol

Given that our testing levels are inadequate and all over the map, wouldn't mortalities be a better indicator of the number of cases?

I thought same thing.
"we won't see other people"

basically ya, we'll have the occasional 4-way or a good ol' fashioned swaperoo

If our data points were in a different order but we were at that total in the same amount of days but had done more testing earlier instead of more recently, then it would be a different picture.

# infected is so heavily influenced by how much you are testing it doesn't seem like the best indicator, especially when different population sizes and land area are involved.

I am not saying it is better or worse than this graph, just saying that graphs and trends that are so correlated to sample size will be misleading.

Yeah, I'm giving some of my friends tips as well.

1- As you said, have a good wake up ritual. For me, it's making a French-pressed coffee, chilling, and drinking coffee for 30 to 60 minutes while reading stupid stuff on the internet.

2- Go for a walk every two hours. I know this isn't desired advice in the current climate, but even walking the halls or something will help.

3- Agree with the showering. Also, make your bed in the morning.

4- (if you can) split your day into 4 hour chunks. Take a 2 hour rest in the middle, where you walk, eat, or do something that isn't looking at the screen.

5- Should be obvious, but have fast internet. Most people don't realize how bad their internet really is until they work from home.

Today, someone told me they didn't finish until 9:30pm. The company got nothing done. The sky was falling for them all day.

10 weeks is a lot better than 5 months.

Sounds gay as ****

I think Trump Flu has a nicer ring.

NY Times: Why Telling People They Don’t Need Masks Backfired

Masks man. I assume (pray) our govt knows this. We're going to have to require this when we open up again. They just don't want a run on all masks right now, which is
understandable.

Also there seems to be a lot of confusion about N95 vs. surgical masks.

This is an N95 mask:



N95 masks are primarily to protect the wearer - especially when in a high-risk environment like around a hospital. They have to be fitted. You can't have a beard. They can certainly protect others from the wearer as well. If people have them they wear them.

This is a surgical mask:



Surgical masks are primarily to protect others from the wearer. They don't have to be perfect but if they knock down 90% of the tiny breath droplets that come out of asymptomatic people, or sputum droplets that come out of symptomatic people - that's a big win. A surgical mask doesn't have to be that precise. This is what there are billions of in Asia, not N95.

I work at a university where lots of Asian students wear these - even before all this happened. Most of them are wearing plain old surgical masks, not N95.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...urvey-n1164841

I was talking to someone who lives in Small Town, Deep South (TM). I asked him if thing are any different over there. He told me that all the small towns have followed the lead of the big cities. Near complete shutdown. It almost sounds worse than what we are dealing with here in the city.

They have a case in their town and people are freaking the hell out over it. I don't know, I don't think shipping off to wherever is going to change anything at this point. Just going to ride out the storm.

Would not breathing in when I'm close to strangers in public places like supermarkets and stores (I don't wear a mask) and only breathing in when there is no one near me make any difference?

Not necessarily couples, but my wife and I have been discussing the possibility of reaching out to a very small number of friends to essentially make a pact that if we are all super diligent about our own quarantining, that in 2 weeks time if we're all still asymptomatic, we 100% don't have it since that's the extent of that period, so we can hang.

But in the past 48 hours since bringing up the idea, we're less and less about it. Just because we know we're going to have to leave the house occasionally, and even if we're super careful it's not 100%. So we wouldn't be sure if it resets the 2 weeks.

Like, I hadn't been around other people for 5 days but then this morning, I had to go to CVS and was pretty darn careful, but careful enough that I can still consider myself in Day 5 of my superquarantine, or should I reset it to day 1 just to be safe?

I wish we had the ability to quantify just how much we raise our chances of catching it for something like a very careful trip to CVS or the grocery store, or every time you order delivery. Of course that's futilely impossible because we have such little data right now.

Also, we'd really be putting in a lot of trust in the other friends and I just don't think it's worth it.

My wife is a teacher and the way she's looking at it is that if the Gov't decided to close the schools for the purposes of trying to mitigate this thing, then she has an obligation to hold up her end and just lock it down, and not try to figure out loopholes and ways to cut corners.

She's right.

Quick stats question though:

We're sitting at around 20k confirmed cases right now. Obviously it's way more but we don't know how many, but the estimates are that it could be 10x that, right? Let's even go nuts and say actual cases are 500k right now.

That's about 1 in 600 Americans. Shouldn't it stand to reason that if all the states follow CA's example (as some did yesterday) over the next 3 or 4 days, we are now talking about 1-2 million cases.

If people overall adhere to the quarantine guidelines, shouldn't we be able to snuff this thing out if at the start of the quarantine only 1 in 200 people have it?

Like during the first couple of weeks, the only people that would be getting it at that time would be the other members of the family that those who were positive were living with. And let's face it, it's going to be a near guarantee that if one person in the household has it, everyone's going to get it.

But then after those first couple weeks, there would be a drastic reduction in new cases. And the longest cases are 5 weeks total (up to 2 weeks asymptomatic, then it takes up to 3 weeks to get out of your system).

So if we just locked it the **** down for 7-8 weeks, the only lingering cases would be from the rare cases of people catching it at grocery stores, delivery, etc.

I'm sure I'm being overly optimistic about the chances of success. For one, I'm assuming a high % of cooperation by the public at large to make it happen, and this is an u unprecedented social experiment we're about to embark on. Who the **** knows what's going to happen?!

But are there other factors I'm not considering in that hypothetical?

It just seems like a super strict quarantine for 6-8 weeks should on paper be enough to keep this thing from not increasing past 10% of the US population getting it.

Thoughts?

Also, I'm more and more nervous about having to go get groceries again. It just would seem that the check out employees have got to be like 90% to have it, since all day long they're handling products that all of the customers have been touching. And then they're handling all of the food you're buying. Just feels so risky.

FML. I'm not very OCD irl but this is really bringing out the Howard Hughes out of me. Should be walking around in tissue box shoes by mid-April.

containing the spread in USA#1 is pretty much a lost cause at this point due to it not being addressed quickly or efficiently enough.

also, americans are sociopathic selfish ****ing idiots. you can thank the "american exceptionalism" propaganda of the last X decades for that chicken finally coming home to roost. ****tards don't care how many innocent people they infect, they only care about themselves. well, guess what happens when everyone feels that way.

at this point, USA#1 needs to be focused on impact mitigation. yes, that also includes containing the spread, but now that needs to just be one part of the plan, not the primary focus. people need to be educated on treatment ASAP, especially when it's appropriate to go to a hospital and when it isn't.

not looking forward to when it hits Florida & Arizona and the olds start dropping like flies