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11-02-2021 , 02:28 PM
Lol rogan is such a ****in moron
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11-02-2021 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Yes true CA has done better than some of the others you are right. But still, MA NY NJ all have higher death rates than TX (higher than FL also... although I think MA and FL may be basically tied). So it's tough to say which pecific policies had an impact. CA may have had stricter lockdowns which made more of a difference than masks, for ex.
Masks were not mandated when those states got hit in the first wave. They weren't even recommended then.

And looking at statewide mask mandates is pretty useless when most people in states without statewide mandates still had mask mandates at the local level.
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11-02-2021 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Move into September and now you add the universities into the mix, with students who were locked down and studying from home during 2020 now suddenly back on campus and ready to party it up. So hardly a surprise that case counts start increasing so much.
Not sure why you are noting return to university, as if is was something distinct to Alberta. You do realize that if Canada had a "University" Province, it would probably be Nova Scotia. The population of NS can't support Dalhousie, St Mary's, Acadia, St. FX, etc.. I know Alberta universities have a high % of out of province students, but so does NS. We used to joke that half the student body was from Ontario...lol. IMO whatever impact university had in Alberta, NS would have had it (relatively) just as bad, if not worse.

This graph shows the last Alberta mask mandate as well, and the expected lag in the downtrend that occurs after any mandate is imposed.



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Also I don't really agree with comparing a small and fairly isolated province like NS with AB. There are fewer people in NS than there are in metro Calgary, they're far less densely populated, AND they had limitations on who could even enter the province during covid. I'd submit that the two provinces have way more differences than just the lack of masking -- particularly since that was the case in AB for only about 65 days. Hardly the main contributing factor to the rise in cases here.
What???? The population density of NS is almost 3 times that of Alberta..

Anyway, this is probably not productive. It is masks, plus lots of things. But based on how COVID is primarily transmitted, it is mostly masks.

I agree the provinces have way more differences though. One thing is that Nova Scotians have been way more compliant to any rules and regulations and less opposed when they are enacted. Alberta, as you know, is quite the opposite. The fear to act in Alberta has be a factor in all of this.

I appreciate and respect your posts and viewpoints..
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11-02-2021 , 07:48 PM
I dont think even the most positive studies of the effectiveness of masks attribute them the powers you are.

UK had a very well observed mask mandate, we still racked up big numbers, sure the masks probably took an edge off, but they did not stop the rona in its tracks by any means.
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11-02-2021 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
I dont think even the most positive studies of the effectiveness of masks attribute them the powers you are.

UK had a very well observed mask mandate, we still racked up big numbers, sure the masks probably took an edge off, but they did not stop the rona in its tracks by any means.
I am not suggesting they are the answer to stop COVID.

I just hold the simple view that:

(1) vaccines reduce symptoms and strain on the health care/hospital systems.

(2) masks reduce the spread better than any other single approach to minimize COVID transmissions.
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11-02-2021 , 10:48 PM
Better than any other approach... r u on drugs, I sure hope so. How about I put my mask on and cough in your face for ten minutes straight and tell me that's better than just staying tf away from a person to minimize transmission
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11-03-2021 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight

This graph shows the last Alberta mask mandate as well, and the expected lag in the downtrend that occurs after any mandate is imposed.

I'm not sure what you think this garph is showing, but it isn't showing that masks had any real effect on the decline in cases. Mask mandates were brought in Aug 31 of 2020, cases didn't start declining until late January. If they had any real effect you'd have seen a leveling off or a decline in mid-September.

Same goes for 2021, when the mask mandates came back it was September 8, but the cases didn't start declining until almost six weeks later.


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What???? The population density of NS is almost 3 times that of Alberta..
Uh dude, Nova Scotia is bigger than Israel, and almost the size of Ireland. It's not a densely populated place. Plus there's only one road in, and that road was pretty much closed for much of the pandemic.

Alberta is also very big and not well populated relative to its size, but bear in mind that a huge portion of this province is virtually uninhabited. Compare the density of NS with the main corridor in the center of AB and it's a very different story.
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Anyway, this is probably not productive. It is masks, plus lots of things. But based on how COVID is primarily transmitted, it is mostly masks.
If this were true the data would back it up, and it just doesn't. Masks have their place and obviously help make people feel safer but in terms of a practical effect on covid, their effect is negligible. The real effect is seen by the social restrictions and, of course, the vaccines.

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I agree the provinces have way more differences though. One thing is that Nova Scotians have been way more compliant to any rules and regulations and less opposed when they are enacted. Alberta, as you know, is quite the opposite. The fear to act in Alberta has be a factor in all of this.
This I agree with, but only to an extent. Sure the Alberta bozos are very bozo, but they're also still a small percentage of the overall population. The main difference is that they tend to be clustered together in their areas, and for some reason get a very vocal presence in media and the like.

So, say that like 5% of Alberta's pop are anti vax morons, that's still about half the population of NS. And since the bulk of them live in the same areas where they have their own media and stuff, they can parrot each other's views and make it sound like their viewpoints are more mainstream than they actually are. Plus there's clearly enough of them to overwhelm the hospital system when they all start getting sick, which exacerbates the problem. Meanwhile 5% of NS is still a small enough number of people that they can rightly be characterized as fringe.

This is way more of a problem in the US, obviously, where the fringe moron viewpoints get three hours of serious coverage each night on Fox news.

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I appreciate and respect your posts and viewpoints..
Same.
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11-03-2021 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight

.........I appreciate and respect your posts and viewpoints..
Lolcanadians
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11-03-2021 , 08:37 PM
My last post on masks... I promise...lol

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Originally Posted by dinopoker
If this were true the data would back it up, and it just doesn't. Masks have their place and obviously help make people feel safer but in terms of a practical effect on covid, their effect is negligible. The real effect is seen by the social restrictions and, of course, the vaccines.
The primary transmission method of COVID is key in why masks reduce transmission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

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The current research results have shown that COVID‐19 is mainly transmitted via droplets in the air. There is a potential risk of airborne transmission in an indoor environment with poor ventilation. The distance of droplet transmission can extend up to 4 m. Based on this data, the recommended social distancing range of 1–2 m (CDC, 2020; WHO, 2020) may not necessarily guarantee the epidemic prevention. Therefore, wearing mask in public is essential as its effectiveness has already been well established by the current studies.
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11-03-2021 , 08:58 PM
**** your science and research, man.
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11-04-2021 , 12:42 AM
Yeah - here's twenty nonsense grifter sites that claim otherwise. Refute all of them immediately or I refuse to change my mind.

Who am I kidding? I'll just go find more.
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11-04-2021 , 02:41 AM
Aaron Rodgers, the reigning NFL MVP, gets COVID, lied about being vaccinated, did not follow any protocols for unvaccinated players, believed he was immune because he took a homeopathic remedy.

I demand a lifetime ban and dissolution of the packers franchise.
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11-04-2021 , 02:45 AM
as a lions fan I objectively agree!
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11-04-2021 , 03:31 AM
Unfortunately the lions will still be a jopke
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11-04-2021 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
My last post on masks... I promise...lol



The primary transmission method of COVID is key in why masks reduce transmission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/
Yet this still raises the question: if masks reduce transmission...

Spoiler:
...why didn't they reduce transmission?
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11-04-2021 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Aaron Rodgers, the reigning NFL MVP, gets COVID, lied about being vaccinated, did not follow any protocols for unvaccinated players, believed he was immune because he took a homeopathic remedy.

I demand a lifetime ban and dissolution of the packers franchise.
Yeah, he played coy and said he was 'immunized'. Should be a multi-game suspension if you ask me.

Or the dissolution of the packers, that'd be fine too.
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11-04-2021 , 11:41 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/who-...-pandemic.html

Dammit Euros you’re supposed to be better at this than USA#1ish
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11-04-2021 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Yet this still raises the question: if masks reduce transmission...

Spoiler:
...why didn't they reduce transmission?

Morons gonna moron
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11-04-2021 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Yet this still raises the question: if masks reduce transmission...

Spoiler:
...why didn't they reduce transmission?
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...l-masking.html
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11-04-2021 , 10:20 PM
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11-04-2021 , 11:43 PM
Sloppy reporting in that tweet. He clearly says he is a convid denier. Covid’s not real, so it can’t be denied!
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11-04-2021 , 11:45 PM
At least he won’t have to press 1 for English anymore when he calls a corporation. That always upset Mark.
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11-05-2021 , 01:44 PM


Oh ok then
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11-05-2021 , 06:51 PM
He might have consulted also consulted his teammate Aaron Jones - whose Dad died of covid.

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/sp...19/7204674002/
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11-05-2021 , 09:27 PM
Yeh but does he have a podcast though?!
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