lol, I sure as hell don't consume most of the mass consumer trash. I'm not anymore less or more likely to drink coke. If I drink a soda, it's going to be very selective in what I choose because I don't drink soda often, and I actually pick my preferences off taste. But sure, publish some stupid scientific "study" which are frequently cherry-picked to give results on how they want them to come out. As in, it's unlikely anyone really spent money on a "scientific" study based on marketing since it's not really a scientific topic. Research is going to be quite limited since marketing isn't a scientific field by nature. (Not saying it can't be, but, for example, nutrition is quite scientific and the actual knowledge on it is still expanding.)

And yes, I do taste the difference. If you honestly can't taste the difference between something like Coke and Pepsi, that's pretty incredible. Also, if I had to drink a **** macrobrew, I'd choose Coors Light. Miller Light is similar, but Bud Light is by far the worst as it is too sweet because of the rice.

Not everyone is a obese American who can't taste the difference, eats a **** ton of garbage food, and can't handle spicy food. It's actually pretty stupid to have this view of everyone and never understand why people are like "OMG YOU CAN'T TASTE THE DIFFERENCE STOP LYING LOL"

Yes but no redzone.

youtubeTV DVR is unlimited. PS Vue doesn't have a limit either iirc (used them before switching to youtube).

as far as the advertising goes, for me that's actually something i kind of agree with, i almost never see tv commercials unless watching live sports and today exposed to it now, having not seen tv ads since basically the nba and nhl playoffs, i find myself paying more attention to the ads than the games despite that i have thousands on the line in dfs

but another thing is during all the self promotional stuff of their shows, that's the really weird part where they keep promoting season 3 or so of some plausibly popular show that i've literally never heard of before - this is where the main benefit of cord cutting comes from, you don't get sucked into watching mediocrity

You entirely missed Alobar's point, which was that advertising affects people in imperceptible ways. Degrees vary, but it's folly to assume that you yourself remain unaffected.

OMG what is going on here?

Commercials suck, TV is great, if you want to read books out in the woods that’s cool too; you do you, boo.

Let’s move on.

Yes he is aware that pepsi and bud light exist, but calling that "affected by advertising" makes the distinction meaningless

So we're allowed to talk Modern Television as long as we don't say anything negative about it?

The talk about advertising is hijacking this thread. Take it elsewhere IMO.

As the thread title implies, my intention was for this thread to be a place where cable television and satellite subscribers could discuss various options for lowering their bill and enhancing their television experience by engaging one or more of the various streaming offerings (colloquially referred to as “cutting the cord”).

There may be likeminded individuals who would like to discuss the potential life affirming impacts of ceasing to consume television, movies, or other types of media; perhaps start a thread to explore those ideas?

I’m starting to see a ton of “commercials” on the various ESPN networks indicating that DirecTV may cease carrying them. That’d be fun.

I've heard (uh oh) that ESPN is the reason cable costs are so high. Customers want ESPN, and ESPN knows this. They charge the cable provider the most per channel, and the cable provider is turn charges you. Not counting premium subscription offerings like HBO, etc, which you as the consumer pay for directly.

I would fully support an 'a la carte' style cable offering. Pick what you want from a menu, with prices and calorie content provided.

This has been uttered by every person who has ever paid for TV.

the thing is it's all conglomerates, like 3 companies own most of those channels, hence why they get packaged together because otherwise they know people would pay far less for maybe 10 total channels - you take the few you know everyone absolutely needs and pack into a package of 50 casual viewing channels

Yeah, Sling's Redzone Channel is great. Also, my IPTV worked fantastic for all the NFL games on Sunday. I upgraded my Sling for an extra $20 to get the sports and some other packages, which includes Redzone. It's still half has much as what I was paying for DirecTV.

My problem is that the only option I have for fast internet in my area is to get it from my cable company. It only costs me about an extra $20 per month to add digital cable TV with TiVo to my package. So there isn't much point in cutting that cord for me. I use Kodi for VoD and that's about it that I know of. Might do sling for the redzone during NFL season tho.

guys... i've said this already but i'll say it again you can get redzone in a legal grey area by going to reddit and r/nflstreams sub and you'll find a link with dozens of offerings all crowd voted so the top ones should be legit and not just hot milfs in your neighborhood ads... which could also yield some interesting alternatives to say the least

Food for thought for most of you: I also did not think I could live without live sports. Guess what? It was not hard to stop watching and I don't miss it at all. I catch a game now and then and that's enough for me.

same here, when i grew up i basically watched every red sox game or listened to the game on the AM radio, still follow them a bit obsessively but really more from a statistical standpoint and don't actually watch unless it's an important game or playoffs

having it on tv when i was already going to veg out anyway meant i always watched, now when it means watching on my laptop or phone, i can usually find a million other things i'd rather do with that time given the options those devices provide

i'm also a big dfs player too so i'd have every incentive ever to watch the games but still don't

I've been cord cutting since 2006. And I watch everything. Seek and you shall find not that hard gents.

Maine leads the way in a la carte cable offering and is getting sued by cable companies :-(

Thanks for the help, Tim! It is truly appreciated.

What's the deal with YouTube TV and ads? For the first few days of my using it, I don't think I saw a single one that wasn't a commercial part of the original broadcast. Just now while watching a couple shows I got several separate ads in my web browser (only thing I've used to watch). It doesn't seem like there's any way to skip or fast forward through these. Dealbreaker for me if that is the status quo.

ublock origin. i don't get regular youtube ads with it