Same. Not sure if I'm a horrible person or what, but I don't really feel the slightest bit guilty either.

If it’s legal, what’s to feel guilty about?

What’s your setup?

Those paid IPTV services that are $10-20/month and include PPVs and adult content are clearly not legal.

Exactly. I haven't researched the legality, but I can't imagine any possible way they are legal.

My understanding is that since you are neither downloading nor distributing anything with IPTV( or a Plex share), as a user, you aren't technically doing anything illegal. Now, the IPTV seller is another matter but not my concern

For the US, I think that's the most common interpretation of that 2020 (?) copyright act that (not surprisingly) content creators don't agree with. As always Dana White is the most vocal among those. I think the angle to that is that people who pay for the services are basically bankrolling people who commit a felony?

What we can be pretty sure about right now in the US is that if we watch unlawful streams on free sites that's fine. Nobody can expect consumers to know if content on YouTube or Twitter is there legally or not.

YouTube TV
YouTube Premium for no commercials
Amazon Prime
Apple+
Netflix
Hulu
Paramount
MAX (HBO)
Disney +

I'm not saving a damn thing with all this (and running on FIOS), and the YouTube TV is borderline worthless to me. But I have everything and I wouldn't consider standalone TV an option anymore.

Should add that the total cost of all of the above is not really a factor for the wife and I these days, we're just at that age and career/earnings point. But going back to a time it would have been (20 or so years ago) no way would we justify half of them. There's more good content with streaming but not proportionate to the cost.

EDIT: I watch more YouTube than anything, mostly home improvement, music, music gear related. The obscene $20-whatever for the ad free might be the best value for me out of everything, and I tried to cut it and it lasted about 10 minutes before I had to sign back up. Maybe 3-4 seasons worth of TV shows and wind up renting half the movies I watch rather than waiting. Younger poorer me would be aghast

Pro tip: set your VPN to Albania or Myanmar, apparently their governments don't allow online ads or something. No more YouTube ads. You can also use ad-blocking extention if you're on a computer

I don't use a VPN

See the government may think I'm into beating off to midget clown porn, but really I'm beating off to the government spying on me while they think I'm into midget clown porn.

Seriously though I don't use a VPN

Services I pay monthly for
Apple+
Netflix
Hulu
Disney+
ESPN+
Peacock
YouTube TV (already bought Sunday NFL ticket for 2024) - split the base monthly cost with my son. We both have full access at our houses on our main TVs.

Services I pay annually for
MAX
Paramount+
Amazon Prime
PokerGO
Starz

All services are no ads. Wont watch ads!!

Its more together what I was paying for cable, but not by all that much. We have property a hour away and spend a lot of time at both places, so its nice these travel unlike cable. Add the fact the amount of content is 100X cable and NO commercials other than live sports. We have went stretches where we didn't touch a service for a month or two and threw money away, but meh.

I cut everything except Prime and YT Premium now that spring has sprung here. I haven't even watched Prime since I canceled Netflix, Hulu, and Apple TV 6 or so weeks ago. I just watch/listen to YT all day. Hopefully I can maintain this in 5 months when it is getting ready to snow again.

Anyone recommend a good cheap replacement for Fubo IRT NFL games? They no longer offer a deal through my internet provider, and cost is 3x as standalone service.

i have a very reliable illegal free sports streaming provider

Looks like I'm going old school. Over the air antenna will get me the networks that show NFL games (except ESPN), and for the rare times I want a trad cable channel (pretty much only Comedy Central for the Daily Show), Pluto is free.

Probably should have put this in the things that piss me of but shouldn't thread but....

I have a 1965 Zenith console TV in my man cave that I retro-fitted a 32 inch Emerson 720 dpi flat screen monitor in. Fitted it with a Firestick and stream YouTubeTV on it. Sound quality from the bottom firing speakers was let's say less than desirable, but I chalked it up to the nostalgia of the era. Been rocking this setup for the last 6 years or so.

Last week my JBL bluetooth speaker I used just to stream music died, as in completely dead. So I did some research and decided on a Harman Kardon Studio 8 replacement. While doing said research I was reading reviews about it and one mentioned that they had paired it with their Firestick and the TV sound was incredible.

Wait, what? Firestick has bluetooth capabilities??? Speaker shows up 2 days later and sure enough, if you go into settings on your Firestick it has a bluetooth pairing option. Took 10 seconds to pair it up and yes, incredible sound. Pissed that I could have been doing this with my JBL speaker the last 6 years.



If interested in a kick-ass new bluetooth speaker, the Studio 8 retails for $499. But T-Mobile has a special right now where you can get it for $179. You don't have to be a T-Mobile customer as you can check out as a guest. Highly recommend!

FWIW, Harmon Kardon sells the Studio 7 through their Ebay store for $99. https://www.ebay.com/itm/395042339386

Was about to order one but not even sure what to do with it?

isn't everybody?

Looser...

Looser than what?