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12-16-2016 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mbrown1833
I hate to just barge in and I haven't really read much but if you want a quick synopsis on how to cook a steak without sous-vide and circulators and Ferran Adria's kitchen equipment here's a good general guide. Feel free to add if I've missed something or have questions about things I've missed. This is for medium-rare temperature. If you like it done more, turn on your oven to 375 before you start cooking.

What you need: steak, salt, black pepper, paper towels, thermometer (it can be a tongue thermometer if you don't have a meat thermometer), cast iron skillet (or a thick stainless steel pan; cannot be non-stick!), stove top.

1.) Know what cut of meat you like. If you don't know, use this site: http://www.thekitchn.com/shopping-fo...ld-know-207368

2.) Where you go to buy your steak matters. Spend the extra money. I could go into the socioeconomics of it but it's not worth it. You get what you pay for.

3.) Make sure the steak is thick. When I say thick, about twice the thickness of your knuckles, and of course for tenderloins this is different. If you like it thin, go get sushi or something.

4.) If you're cooking the steak the day you buy it, put it on a plate and put it in the fridge. No salt, no pepper, no oil. Just let it sit in the fridge uncovered. You want to create a dry surface so that it's easier to get a strong sear. Cover it and there's humidity. Salt it and it draws the liquid out of the steak. No salt until just before cooking.

5.) Pre-heat your pan and pull the steak out of the fridge. I like cast iron pans for the cooking of my steaks. If you're using a regular pan add a little canola/veg oil to the pan. It is very important that the pan is clearly bigger than the steak. You don't want to steam your beautiful steak. (If you grill and you feel comfortable getting a great sear on your grill, more power to you, use it. But it's been snowing here and I can get a better looking sear on the stove top. That means more flavor.)

6.) You want that pan hot. When you start to heat your pan on high heat, take a paper towel and make sure your whole steak is dry. This step is often forgotten by home cooks but is very important. Liquid on the surface of your steak = steam. You do not want to steam your steak at any level. That means less flavor. After you dry your steak, salt and pepper your steak. You want a fair amount of salt. Think about how thick that steak is-- it needs a fair amount of salt. Your steak is dry so you may have to press the salt into the steak if you're using kosher salt. With regards to black pepper, I put as much black pepper as salt.

7.) You should be watching your pan. When it starts to smoke (not smoking like the fire alarm is going to go off but a light smoke), your pan is ready to have the steak admitted. Put the steak in the pan, press it into the pan, and turn the heat to medium. Do not touch the steak, let that sexy beast get some color. The color you are looking for is called mahogany. This applies to all meats that are being seared but the color of mahogany is more easily seen and applied to steaks. Mahogany!

8.) After the first side gets to mahogany, flip it over and do it again. I turn the heat up just before I flip the steak. Every time you move the steak in the pan the temperature of your pan fluctuates. Try to trust your gut on this one. You're a better cook than you think, trust your instincts.

9.) When mahogany is getting close on the second side, test the temperature with your thermometer. Med-rare is 135 but you're pulling her off 10 degrees before you get there so you're looking for 125-128. 125-128 and she comes off. (For medium pull out at 135-138; medium well 145-148; well done 160.)

10.) Put the steak on a cutting board or on your plate and let her sit for 10-15 minutes. Be patient. If you cut into that steak immediately, all of the liquid escapes and you haven't allowed for the liquid to reset itself because it's literally still cooking. Even though it's out of the pan, the steak is still cooking!

11.) If you're really cool, add a knob of butter to the still hot pan. Have a handful of mushrooms and onions and toss them in. Get all the good stuff from the bottom of the pan on your mushrooms and onions. Put the mushrooms and onions to one side of the pan and put asparagus on the other side. Add garlic and have your oven at 400. When the asparagus is just cooked through, your steak will be well rested and ready for the accompaniments.

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tl;dr (i did read it for lulz tho, admittedly not as bad as some of the other ones)

i love when people barge into a thread with 25,000 posts to offer advice. doing it while we're sexing up some wagyu pr0n is like the icing on the cake.

^^these are some of my favorite posts btw

Last edited by +rep_lol; 12-16-2016 at 09:28 AM.
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12-16-2016 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Hey guise. New to the thread and very inexperienced w/ steak cooking. +rep always rants about this thread so thought I'd check it out since I'm interested in learning the art of cooking a gr8 steak.. and cookin more red meat in general which I almost never do.

Here's a 14 oz NY strip steak. About 1 inch thickness. Cooked it on the cast iron under directions given by rep. Tried to follow as close as possible and below are the results. Looks like I coulda got more of the sear going but regardless it came out very tasty and def much much more so compared to how I've cooked the NY strip (one of my not so favorite cuts) before.





with flash
i passed out on the couch watching a movie with the gf, but the pan you showed me wasn't cast iron fwiw

this is a really solid first effort to build off of
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12-16-2016 , 11:29 AM
You're actually going to put meat in a mincemeat pie? Sounds gross, but all the literature I've ever seen on it includes suet
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12-16-2016 , 11:44 AM
Anthony Bourdain weighs in..

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12-16-2016 , 12:12 PM
For meat pies use a cut like ground chuck or ground brisket. Even though they're tender enough via grinding for burger they still contain all that tissue that breaks down to gelatin when stewed or slow smoked, or cooked twice like you describe.
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12-16-2016 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
tl;dr (i did read it for lulz tho, admittedly not as bad as some of the other ones)

i love when people barge into a thread with 25,000 posts to offer advice. doing it while we're sexing up some wagyu pr0n is like the icing on the cake.

^^these are some of my favorite posts btw
If you don't think that Wagyu quality overall is down significantly due to demand, then you are foolish. With that said, there are two (edit: three) significant purveyors of Wagyu within a mile of each side of me and I don't live in a city. If you're still getting off looking at Wagyu, time to move on.
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12-16-2016 , 12:53 PM
Mbrown comin with the attitude. Did you see those caps dude?
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12-16-2016 , 01:52 PM
A treat for everyone here: Some old school OOT steak discussion that predates this thread by a good six years. Like the early posts ITT, there are some unenlightened opinions, so to speak:

http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1
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12-16-2016 , 02:28 PM
Did you make it through this entire thread, bd? I remember that was a weekend goal of yours.
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12-16-2016 , 02:47 PM
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Did you make it through this entire thread, bd? I remember that was a weekend goal of yours.
Not yet. I'll click on random years from time to time and scroll through a 100-200 posts or so. I imagine it's fascinating watching the progression from Deansteaks to regular batches of 10s.
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12-16-2016 , 03:21 PM


Steak and salad two days in a row for lunch? Why not? One of my frozen Prime NY strips that I just thawed out. Simple pan reverse sear again--hopefully I can match yesterday's ribeye.
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12-16-2016 , 04:20 PM
Mid cook pics:







(Hard to post w/one hand and steak with the other)
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12-16-2016 , 04:48 PM
Resting now:





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12-16-2016 , 05:23 PM
Final results:





EMC:



While I've gotten to love SV for the convenience, I've come around to pan reverse sear (with a Thermapen assist) as producing the best crust and overall best results. The steak above had less than 1 min total searing per side, thanks in part to the nice browning start during the low cook. I need close to double that for a similar crust for SV. Both are great, but if I'm competitive steaking then pan reverse sear comes out on top.
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12-16-2016 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mbrown1833
If you don't think that Wagyu quality overall is down significantly due to demand, then you are foolish. With that said, there are two (edit: three) significant purveyors of Wagyu within a mile of each side of me and I don't live in a city. If you're still getting off looking at Wagyu, time to move on.
lol this post

nvg regs ftw
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12-16-2016 , 06:38 PM
Big,

Welcome to Team Pan!
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12-16-2016 , 06:39 PM
mbrown,

Where do you live and what type of Wagyu are you talking about?
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12-16-2016 , 06:47 PM
el oh el,

what's the meat guy's consensus on your discolored packages?

talked to bobby about it yet?
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12-16-2016 , 06:55 PM
Bigdaddydvo,

Looks fantastic!

I've got a few steaks in the bath right now. Will post pics if I have the time, but it's hard to live up to the recent submissions in this thread.


Last edited by Randall Stevens; 12-16-2016 at 07:01 PM.
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12-16-2016 , 07:07 PM
rep,

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
el oh el,

what's the meat guy's consensus on your discolored packages?

talked to bobby about it yet?
He assured me they were fine, with the more discolored one due to a leak in the cryovac seal. Some internet research seems to back up that some outside discoloration based on contact w/ oxygen is expected and nothing to worry about.

He suggested I eat the more discolored one sooner if possible, so I'm gonna polish off that one and the big piece I already started over the next few days, and have refrozen the other big piece.

Feeling like it should be fine, but if I die my attorney Howard Treesong will be coming after him!
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12-16-2016 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Feeling like it should be fine, but if I die my attorney Howard Treesong will be coming after him!

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12-16-2016 , 08:18 PM
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Big,

Welcome to Team Pan!
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12-16-2016 , 08:47 PM
More stake trolling.

Learned this while looking for mincemeat recipes

Do NOT salt the outside of your prime rib roast, as salt draws out moisture from the meat while cooking. You can use other seasonings, if desired, but I find it is not necessary. I know that some people do salt their prime rib roast before cooking, but trust me and do no salt – the result will be a juicy, delicious roast to serve your family and guests!

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Beef...icPrimeRib.htm

not sure I want to use them now.
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12-16-2016 , 09:57 PM
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More stake trolling.

Learned this while looking for mincemeat recipes

Do NOT salt the outside of your prime rib roast, as salt draws out moisture from the meat while cooking. You can use other seasonings, if desired, but I find it is not necessary. I know that some people do salt their prime rib roast before cooking, but trust me and do no salt – the result will be a juicy, delicious roast to serve your family and guests!

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Beef...icPrimeRib.htm

not sure I want to use them now.
Just look at this delicious prime rib prictured on their Perfect Prime Rib page. Why would you not trust what they have to say?

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12-17-2016 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
rep,



He assured me they were fine, with the more discolored one due to a leak in the cryovac seal. Some internet research seems to back up that some outside discoloration based on contact w/ oxygen is expected and nothing to worry about.

He suggested I eat the more discolored one sooner if possible, so I'm gonna polish off that one and the big piece I already started over the next few days, and have refrozen the other big piece.

Feeling like it should be fine, but if I die my attorney Howard Treesong will be coming after him!
i suspected as much- i know all of us have bought at least one steak from the store that had discoloration on the bottom when you lift it out of the package, and didn't think twice about it because it still smelled fine and is relatively normal...but that's still unfortunate that they're not as pretty as they should be. when you cut them up into steaks and expose more of the inside of the slabs, they should look a lot nicer.

also you may be a lolmillionaire in the bay area, but i suspect you can't afford howie's legal services
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